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Coolcaesar deserves a good ban, I will back off of that too, because he will get one sooner or later with his comments, so I will let time take its course. I hope I do not have to wait out the full year, because I plan to come back with stronger, and more constructive intentions, while still working on Southern California Cities and Places in keeping with the Knowledge Rules in mind. I has a question though. When do people generally ask to end a ban?
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against you and/or wikipedia copyright infringement. Though it appears that you are trying to act in "good faith," copyright infringement is a strict liability matter. Copyright infringement does not require bad intent, though bad intent may trigger damages to a punitive nature. Info regarding statutory damages for copyright infringement can be found at 17 USC 504(c).
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Caliber Motors copyright violation). I did a quick Google Image search and couldn't find the original, unfortunately. All it is is a Tustin Map with a very bad area fill using a paint program to show where Tustin Ranch is. He didn't even clean it up by doing pixel edits to
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Got ya, thanks. The user who uploaded that image - Owen
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citing speedy delete reasons. I'm aware that there was some discussion about the PD-soviet tag and it's legal ramifications - would you let me know whether this image was deleted because of a conclusion in that discussion or just because it wasn't tagged with anything? If the later is the case - how
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Hmmm. That raises even more questions. (1) By your logic, are you pretty certain that everything else on
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thats sensiable, but i dont think its neccisary and i think theres a strong arguement against an CFD and even if it does it could be split then. however if you do create separate ones, i think we should make sure to have a line of links at the bottom of each one, neighborhoods in other areas of l.a.
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Wow. We are clearly on different wavelengths. It looks like you basically just modified matter from a plurality of sites instead of a single one for inclusion in this article. Theoretically, your action has significantly increased the number of potential plaintiffs who may have a cause of action
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Well, I guess you'd better go through the site more carefully, because there's a whole bunch that you missed under your interpretation of copyright law. Parenthetically, go check out copyright.gov and see if that website explicitly states that the materials on that website is in the public domain.
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Anaheim Hills talk page, but it was for the sake of stopping the confusion. Although I do not like the ban, I find my time here done for now. I hope to
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If you choose to learn more about copyright law, I suggest you start with copyright.gov and/or perform a search for the term "SUBSTANTIAL SIMILARITY OF PROTECTED EXPRESSION." Better yet, take a course on copyright law at your local institution of higher learning. It does no one any good when an
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Piedmont or any other entity would want to spend the time, effort and attorney fees to try to collect what effectively amount to token damages from some anonymous individual or
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lol, its okay, you obviously ment well and were just a little premature and uncommunicative but oh well. hahha what was my original one called again? just kidding, allthought i was thinking should i put them all in alphabetical order or to make it look nicer, separte them by city region within the
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But not only did you revert changes made by the banned user, you also reverted changes made by me, before the user ever made any edits. Specifically I am referring to the properly-sourced section about teacher awards. I don't appreciate this in the slightest, as it took sime time to put together
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qualify for the on this day section.? People claim that it numbers between two to three million, and it is an international event. I'm not sure about historical importance though. Arguably it may meet the moderate criteria. Just wondering, cuz it would need to be put up soon if it does qualify.
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Hi sorry to bother you but I noticed you were interested in making a redirect to bill oreilly commentator. I started a new vote to have 'bill oreilly' routed directly to bill oreilly (commentator) and the current bill oreilly page made teh bill oreilly (disambiguation) page. This vote is taking
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it's on page 26. Flysheet info says "Photograph credits:Plates from the A. V. Shchusev State
Research Musuem of Architecture; Moscow. Oh balls! the image says "Konstantin Melnikov, Pavilion of the USSR, Exposition des Arts Decoratif, Paris, 1925, Courtesy A.Kopp". I assume you know about these
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fixed it, while I got a big scare: for a while I thought that either goblins or gremlins had done it, while I was busy adding a line later in the article's text, with the correct coordinates and their link. I just saw where you applied your fix. Thank you very, very much!.
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that suggests re-tagging with fair use criteria - I'm pretty sure that we can make a reasonable case for tagging at least the architectural drawings with a Fair Use-Art rationale. Could I ask you to give us a couple of days to re-tag these before deletion - many thanks.
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but yeah ive only added the actual template to the neighborhoods starting with A and B, its be great if you could add "Los Angeles Neighborhoods" to the articles between C and Y or just C D or somthing like that, just remember to put it between double braces {{ }},
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I only chnaged the pic on the page becuase the pics you first put up were terrible and made Katie look ugly. I know shes getting older but they were bad. But this pic you just now put up is better and shold be keep up. Thanks Drewgu111
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Let me clarify: Unless I am completely sure that it is in public domain (the only copyright or copyleft message on the Piedmont website is the phrase "Questions or Comments? email: aswift@ci.piedmont.ca.us - ©2005 Piedmont, CA" on
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by the way, im very frustrated, i thought there was an edit conflict due to the similarity in the names, i really wish you would have said somthing to me, cuz i tried to recreated it several times with differing names
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This image was speedy deleted purely because it was a recently uploaded file that did not really have specific information on its source i.e. where exactly did the uploader get a copy of the image from. As for
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Well, maybe you are right. I might as well revert the article back before your original edit until I get explicit permission from Swift or Piedmont itself, or properly cite and source all the content I have.
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It's not a copyright violation to take stuff from government sites. It's called public domain materials. Please learn more about copyright law before appointing yourself the copyright police.
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Thanks. Maybe by next year it could be added then. I don't have any time to research the controversy section. Another user has created a reference section though so its getting there.
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My mistake. Thanks for ordering and cleaning up the survey. That said how do I shut one of these things down once I think its an obvious conclusion (e.g. no consensus 10-10)
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I can cite other California government cities, communities and agencies that say that the material on their web site is copyrighted. Because the Piedmont web site does not
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on the Cricket fan activism group to pull votes and so it seems only fair to inform people who may find it convenient to link directly to a page used more often.
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Sorry, but since there is a record of you trying to communicate to me, as well as your other recent edits, I must follow through and reset your ban again.
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