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1085:, based on apparently nothing that any other editor had directly said, that you don't think they are singles just because they had music videos made for them. This is not the reason I added them to the singles section, and I wasn't even aware (and frankly don't care) that music videos were made for the songs. They looked like they were being issued as commercial singles each week in the lead-up to the album's release to me. I don't particularly care enough to disagree with your classification of what is a single here and what isn't, but it might be best to not make assumptions about why things were where they were, because nobody said having music videos made for them made them singles. Thanks. 1867:
original Japanese, they say: "an album which is Ado's first work", "an album by Ado", "a cover album by Ado", and "an album which is Ado's second work" in that order. The soundtrack album is simply generically referred to as an album and not included in the numbering of her "main" albums, while the cover album is specifically called a cover album and also does not contribute to the numbering of her main albums. Basically, the purpose of the term "studio album" (to show that an album is neither a live album nor a compilation album and thus falls under the "main listing" of somebody's albums) is circumvented by simply saying "albums" and then specifying further when needed.
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the Japan Hot 100 the next week after the albums release. If I could ask on your perspective if “Where the Wind Blows”, “Tot Musica” and “The World’s Continuation” are singles or not? I did just check the Japanese Knowledge version of the soundtrack album, and they do list those songs as singles, but the date of release are the same day the equivalent MV was released.
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years such as her cover of “Crime and Punishment” and “God-ish”. On the Japanese Knowledge, the article infobox uses “cover album” which is not an option on the English Knowledge. If you are able to find sources that state the release is a studio album or something of the sorts, please feel free to let me know so we could further discuss this.
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main studio album does not mean that it's not a cover album. Also, the definition of a "compilation album" implies a collection of previously released songs, but many of the songs on the album were recorded specifically for it, and they are all covers. Is "cover album" not the more obvious way to refer to it?
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I get your point of view, and while I slightly disagree seeing as this single was released back in September (and originally went to number one near the end of September and has gone back and forth in the top ten since with no article made as of this comment), I will go ahead and leave this hyperlink
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Hi there. Although there is very little English coverage of this album, a lot of Japanese music news outlets have covered this album, including Billboard Japan, Rolling Stone Japan, Barks and Natalie Music, all of which are reputable sources within Japan. Is the album of no notability due to its lack
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Hello, thank you for the comment! The article was for a single to be made and I forgot to add a redirect to the targeted album it is to go to. That is 100% my fault and I apologize. If the article is deleted, that is okay. I have just been creating redirect pages while I prepare to make some pages of
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pre-released songs than the Utattemita Album (14 of 16 songs were released before the album was released, as opposed to 4 out of 10 from the cover album). Also, two of the singles (unravel and Buriki no Dance) were released after the album was announced, and those covers were planned to specifically
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Hi, thanks for the clarification, and I really do appreciate the feedback and advice. “New Genesis”, “I’m Invincible” and “Backlight” were all released prior to the albums release with “Fleeting Lullaby” being released days before the album as a promotional single. I do know all of the songs entered
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we don't list anybody who did not produce, play on or design the artwork for an album. This includes sales teams, management, A&R personnel and legal teams for an artist. Also, MOS:ALBUM tells us we should not use div col for lists (this includes separate groups) of less than 20 names. Regarding
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Hello, I noticed you reverted my change to the page on Ado's Utattemita Album a month ago about how it should be called a cover album and not a compilation album, and I thought I should ask your reasoning why. Every Japanese source I can find refers to it as a cover album, and just because it is a
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However, Japanese Knowledge as well as Japanese musical journalism in general does not opt to introduce albums with the term "studio album", and simply says "album" a lot of the time. If we look at the pages for Kyogen, the ONE PIECE FILM RED soundtrack, Ado's Utattemita Album, and Zanmu in their
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is a cover album, which is stated in the article, however it is not referred to as a studio album per se, at least according to Japanese sources which just call it a “cover album”. Most of the cover recordings were released prior to the album exclusively on Ado’s YouTube channel over the last few
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a valid reason to link to a redirect that links back to an article? In other words, it allows for the creation of the article at some time in the future, without having to manually go back to update the link. Also I am pretty sure that new song might be notable, see this one showing the Billboard
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Thank you for your corrections for the last few months. I have been following the layout of the older Ai related music articles and have failed to notice the style advice. I will follow them from now on. Most of the other articles made are directly from the JPN version so I apologize for any
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The album appears to be a compilation of cover recordings. I think it is best to include others in this debate and see where majority fall in this case and go from there. Cover albums in certain cases can be classified as a compilation album. As for the singles from Zanmu, the release was
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go in that album, so it's only God-ish and Crime and Punishment that were old covers included. It's hardly a compilation album, and there isn't a reason to not call it a cover album on its page when any English cover album is classified as a cover album as well.
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Ado's Utattemita Album (could technically be referred to as a studio album by definition, but Japanese sources do not consider it to be one of her "main albums", so it would be beneficial to list it under a separate category)
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According to the Japanese Knowledge page for "Studio album", the term "studio album" in its broadest sense refers to any album recorded in a studio, but is often used in contrast to either a live album or a compilation album.
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specifically stated as the “second original album” per her distributor Universal Music LLC. The distributor describes Ado’s Uttatemita Album as just her “first uttatemita album” per the releases special website.
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Thank you very much. I have not redirected categories before, so I was unsure of how to do this. I will look more into it if I need to do so again in the future. Many thanks for taking the time to notify me.
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I obviously didn’t bring any sources to the table really to make that big of a change, and for that I do apologize. But I do really want to see another’s perspective, and see if things can be made right. :)
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I sincerely apologize for the confusion. I never really move articles, so this is definitely a learning experience for me. I have requested a technical move and hopefully this issue will clear up soon :).
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but forgot to lowercase the I for "in". I have attempted to fix this but since the article already exists and redirects to the page, I will be requesting a technical move for this.
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Thank you for the reminder. It seems I was in a rush and forgot to do that. I really appreciate the message. I have fixed it and if the page is deleted, no worries from me.
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At least half of Ado's Utattemita Album was recorded specifically for the album and they are not pre-existing videos on her channel; also, Zanmu actually contains
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Why did you move I Fell In Love With the DJ to I Fell In Love with the DJ? Your edit summary "Title case article" really confused me.
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Hello. I'm the editor who added Ado's songs to the singles section when they charted. You said in
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Ai (singer) songs/singles. Seems I've accidentally done it a few times and have fixed the error.
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I wondered why you changed one letter to lower case. It makes sense now with the move issue.
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