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which is both sad and amusing. As to the block... you are correct! On first glance at the log it did look to me like a 2-week block, but after doing the math, it does appear to be 13 days instead of 14. However, I'm going to file that in the "close enough for government work" category; anyone referring to it in the future – especially in reference to that thread – will call it a 2-week block anyway.
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told me multiple times I was a liar, made fun of my user name, was condescending, and seemed to imply what? That according to ScottyWong's tool I'm a meatpuppet or something? From where I'm sitting none of this behavior is acceptable. Yet no one dropped him word on his user page about it. Can you please explain why not? I'm very curious about the rationale behind this. Thanks.
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No, you picked what de normally insists to have (or I did, I don't remember). In Bach cantata articles, "they" always change all that I accidentally leave unchanged. But possibly in Rock, they leave
English quotations with English marks which makes sense to me. I like the wording, just wanted to make
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Since my record of image uploads currently stands at 1 uploaded, 0 deleted, I'm very inexperienced with this. I want to create a new template that uses battery meters so I searched the internet for one that freely licenses their images. I uploaded 1 so far to make sure it stays undeleted. Can you
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Hi
Truthkeeper. I apologize, I did not realize your question was directed at me; I thought I'd made clear I didn't think it was acceptable. I'm a bit disappointed that I was the only admin in that thread to do so, but that's often the case these days, it seems. While you're both here, Demiurge1000:
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I think is good, but might require someone with more knowledge in that field. But there are a few others too, as I'm starting to look around. I've been going through setting up my preferences (had to reset to default and start over at one point .. lol), and reading through various things. Anyway
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without answering my question. Your rationale seems to imply that
Demiurge's baits and insults should be overlooked, and yet you fail to give credence to fact that baiting, as per the recent arbcom case, is as uncivil as any incivility it causes. I've not been incivil, and I am insulted. Demiurge
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Well, that mainly comes down to the sources. Are they sufficient for a standalone article? Do they say anything sufficiently interesting about the subject that a good hook can be created? Fortunately if you work on it in userspace you have a little bit more time to decide, since the DYK clock only
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want to happen. You're both valuable contributors, and there's no benefit whatsoever to be had by assuming that the other party has anything other than good intentions. Things go so much more smoothly when you err on the side of assuming good faith. This whole episode has been very disappointing.
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Hi
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Knowledge (XXG). His behaviour, ongoing, year on year, demonstrates an apparent
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Is there just that one, or do I need to waste more time locating all the others? Do you think she "did not remember that interaction" even after being given links to it? Even if you believe that (which is stretching it more than a little), do you think "I've never interacted with him
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There's quite extensive media coverage of it, in my opinion. There are quite some things that could be interesting, like the fact that
Windows Media Center would be only offered as an optional add-on to the Pro edition. Also interesting would be the shortening of "Professional" →
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I just now got all the Now That's What I Call Music! Israeli images in there correct articles and it took a LOT of work because it took me about 3 weeks to get all 17 images because some of them were rare. 𝕁𝕠𝕣𝕕𝕒𝕟 𝕁𝕒𝕞𝕚𝕖𝕤𝕠𝕟 𝕂𝕪𝕤𝕖𝕣♩♪♫♬ 13:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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I wish my German language skills were strong enough that I'd be able to have an opinion either way! I will have to defer to you and others whose German is much better. I did notice they changed „this type of quotation mark“ to "this type"... did I pick the wrong variant?
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I wouldn't worry too much, it happens quite often I think. I've answered your questions (you've not answered mine!), but I do think this might have been better off defused (or diffused) soon after TK came here, rather than going through this additional round of drama.
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I found a couple to implement in my topicon portion of it but for the main part, they're either great but lacking levels or terrible quality that I cant use. I found a battery meter who's owner I contacted that does consider commercial or non-profit
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The only reason I posted in this thread, beyond my first very brief one-line clarifying statement, was that you specifically asked me four questions in your first reply to
Truthkeeper, above. Nothing more to discuss.
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No, for some reason I thought he was. Shows you how little I know (seriously, I don't hang around the boards and such!). Apologize about that. In that case it's less egregious - but still very bad behavior, imo.
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Are well-taken. Life is all about experience. Those who truly teach are to be respected. Those who don't, well, meh. You offer constructive criticism, and your criticism is duly noted. Well done. Carry on ...
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incapability to deal with just about any dispute without implying dishonesty, incompetence or ignorance on the part of other editors, or engaging in some other snide and childish attempt to belittle them.
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will show you the changes that are being made in real-time; obviously most of that won't be vandalism (I hope) but there will be some, and we can always use people helping clean it up. Good luck!
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sure that no meaning was lost. I had asked on the project page for someone with more knowledge of the topic to look at it, - Hauptseite appearance made it happen, - one of the wanted results, --
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Almost a year ago - a single comment which slipped my mind. Do I regularly interact with him? No, I do not. You're still making accusations and being extremely baitey. I'd like you to stop.
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Rats! Fair use is out of the question too. Until I find I way to keep it, will you delete it for me? Hold on, why isn't the copyright expired? It's from 2008.—
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Windows XP, Vista, and 7 all have separate articles for their editions, but I'm a little unsure on writing an article for the editions of pre-release software.--
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I'm still laughing at your closure of this topic at ANI. It's great when someone makes incisive comments that are also funny.--
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1057:{tps}}I wouldn't say real time as it doesn't update itself. You constantly have to hit the refresh to get an updated list.—
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9,089 hits, excellent for no picture, congratulations, for a bright future ;) --
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OK, thanks. Unfortunately Knowledge (XXG) isn't "personal use." And
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Wow, that's exciting... that's better than most of my English DYKs!
868:"Interesting" is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose! Good luck!
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Thanks. It was good I didn't upload the other 10 images. :)—
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930:Installed, and it's a big time-saver!--
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