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Regulation 543.jpg. as this is the first and only real copy that can be clearly shown to be the first real Ames 1850 cadet sword in this images from the makers files. Okay, since I took the photo which the publishers said I could use, that you approved it. All I want to know is how did someone Else's name, someone who had nothing to do at all with it except that he volunteers at Wilkpidia, is allowed to remove your name and replaced and replaces it with yours. Please tell me in do you allow you volunteers to do that. All I wanted to do was to replace the image with a better one.. same image better quality all of which is verifiable. I still want to upload a better quality image same photo, I just learned how I could scan it better. Thank you 65.35.73.243 (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy BoldItalic Embedded fileSignature and timestampLink AdvancedSpecial charactersHelpCite ===1850 Ames Cadet sword compaired to the 1840 Musicians sword.jpg=== I got your email and I agree in part. Let me explain I have been working on this article for 4 years or more. I have been working to get the best images released, it took over a year for me to get the copy right owners to release it. The Image that was up loaded was not as good as the Image I wanted to reload to take the place of Ames Regulation 543.jpg I wanted to upload the best image I could make. I also wanted to change the size. The Images that I found, scanned, worked for a year to get copyrights released to you. Then when I have a better image I get a problem. Tell me this if I put all this effort into it why are you giving someone else credit in the User talk contribs for work that I did? Please change it back or let me upload a better image. For what it's worth I would like to upload the same image that was there before with a higher quality scan of that image,
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Regulation 543.jpg. as this is the first and only real copy that can be clearly shown to be the first real Ames 1850 cadet sword in this images from the makers files. Okay, since I took the photo which the publishers said I could use, that you approved it. All I want to know is how did someone Else's name, someone who had nothing to do at all with it except that he volunteers at Wilkpidia, is allowed to remove your name and replaced and replaces it with yours. Please tell me in do you allow you volunteers to do that. All I wanted to do was to replace the image with a better one.. same image better quality all of which is verifiable. I still want to upload a better quality image same photo, I just learned how I could scan it better. Thank you 65.35.73.243 (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy
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Regulation 543.jpg. as this is the first and only real copy that can be clearly shown to be the first real Ames 1850 cadet sword in this images from the makers files. Okay, since I took the photo which the publishers said I could use, that you approved it.
1186:) 01:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy If you looked at the image in the Ames Sword Company 1829 -1935 page 225 you will see Model 543 1850 West point cadet sword This is the only Image on that page that Mowbray publishing gave permission to use.. This is a very important image as it shows that the model 1850 supports images of cadets using that sword years before they were issued. As I said I would like to use the best image, I would like to get more images from Mowbray Publishing, and I will not if they do not look good. Thanks
1115:) 01:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy If you looked at the image in the Ames Sword Company 1829 -1935 page 225 you will see Model 543 1850 West point cadet sword This is the only Image on that page that Mowbray publishing gave permission to use.. This is a very important image as it shows that the model 1850 supports images of cadets using that sword years before they were issued. As I said I would like to use the best image, I would like to get more images from Mowbray Publishing, and I will not if they do not look good. Thanks
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include 3rd party sources along with new information added to articles. Suggesting that users email or call someone for verification really isn't all that practical! :) See if you can find a newspaper article or magazine article (perhaps something that traces the history of West Point dress requirements or armaments. I'm sure you could find something there. Does West Point have a newspaper of its own? It's entirely possible that this issue has been written about. Good luck!
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I'll bet it makes you feel important. You cry like a baby, when its you who started this. I have never said anything negative about you. I do feel I should of asked for help a long time age. I feel you have your own agenda. Everything is in print as well as you negative attitude which when read shows
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I have had just one change to the contents that you can see. I have so many photo's that I've taken and photo's from book's that I've copied but I am having trouble posting because of copyright laws so I add the line that all photo's can be seen at the ebay review see link at the bottom of this page.
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The cadets for only the last 10 to 15 years started calling the sword a saber. This was not the case 20 years ago or 50 or 200 years ago it has always been called sword. Someone wants to go back to the start of West Point and change that fact I have to many references like Todd and
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I've just seen the comments about me that you made on your GOCE request and another users talk page. Given that I got involved to try to help you out in your conflict with another editor I'm somewhat disappointed that you've chosen to criticise me in that way. For what it's worth my comment about
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Here is my problem and it is shared at the point, Everything about the sword is referenced as a sword orders, designs, names from 1839 to today refers to this being call the West Point Sword it a part of history, A sword is different from a saber looks different and is in a different class of
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All I wanted to do was to replace the image with a better one.. same image better quality all of which is verifiable. I still want to upload a better quality image same photo, I just learned how I could scan it better. Thank you 65.35.73.243 (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy
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All I wanted to do was to replace the image with a better one.. same image better quality all of which is verifiable. I still want to upload a better quality image same photo, I just learned how I could scan it better. Thank you 65.35.73.243 (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy
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It's only a saber because the cadets like the word better not because it is one and this has only been going on for 10 years. so it really unfair to change history when there is no written proof that it has ever been called a saber. I am also trying to get paper work showing
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This information is to new to be public the only way it can be checked out is by calling the school and talking to a the project manager working on the new issue of the sword, he can be call Please email me for his name and his direct
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So I have given several references to the fact that it is a sword, the point still has to use the term sword Mark could explain this to you better than I could ever.
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The point put out bid's for a new sword and the will be made better than the one they use today and this will also be call a sword by the Academy.
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