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English word or name with a Japanese origin should be used in its English form in the body of an article, even if that is pronounced or spelled differently from the properly romanized Japanese form: use Mount Fuji, Tokyo, jiu jitsu, shogi and not Fujisan, Tōkyō, jūjutsu, shōgi. Give the romanized Japanese form in the opening paragraph if it differs from the English form (see below). See Knowledge (XXG):Naming conventions (use English)." And technically Anna Kyôyama is an English form. If we followed what you are saying, then "Yu-Gi-Oh!" would be moved to "Yugio".
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Now I am convinced that manga besides Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z and Naruto (Which have circumflexes used in the actual manga) and possibly One Piece and Shaman King (As they haven't yet used macrons but circumflexes are used in introductory pages) should default to circumflexes. I'm thanking you for
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Speaking of which, this is why redirects are so beautiful. If one punches in "Anna
Kyoyama", one is lead to the circumflexed title. Knowledge (XXG) should use their romanization system because they have the rights to publish the manga in the U.S. - Also, the MoS says "Knowledge (XXG) is an English
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In most cases, I'm happy to use proper-Manual of style spellings and such next to the "official" spellings. But I don't see why macrons and circumflexes should be in the same article like that. The "Accent-thingy" is a circumflex and works exactly the same way as a macron does. Then, what would be
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This text seems to convince me that ecchi means perverted in
English (not Japanese, of course) "The word is often used in the context of manga and anime in Japan and the United States. However, its use in the United States is more general in its reference to something that would be considered
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