User talk:Buaidh/Archive 2011

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passionate about this area that I am unable to read the article with a critical eye. All things considered, I don't feel that it needs to be too dry, but on the other hand I don't want it to sound like a travel brochure. Perhaps it could be argued that the information is too broad (Royal Gorge for instance), though I'd like to keep it. But at this point I am just too close to it and am unable to judge my own creation. Also, although I feel that I did a fairly good job with the writing, it is not a natural talent for me and perhaps could use some tweaks. If you don't have time, perhaps you know someone that would be interested in helping me. I also have some photos that I'd like included, but I have not been able to figure out how to do it. Thanks.

1844: 2374:. After reviewing the project it appears that there haven't been much active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. I have begun a discussion on the projects talk page to see how the members of the project feel about this suggestion. Another user has added the project to the WPUS template and I added it to the list of supported projects in the WPUS main project page but before I take any further action I wanted to contact each of the active members for their input. -- 2347:. After reviewing the project it appears that there haven't been much active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. I have begun a discussion on the projects talk page to see how the members of the project feel about this suggestion. Another user has added the project to the WPUS template and I added it to the list of supported projects in the WPUS main project page but before I take any further action I wanted to contact each of the active members for their input. -- 3377:

only room for one then one one will appear. And no just reverted this additions (I think 3 of them) - On a side note portals and see also section should be in Alphabetical order - we have many many pages were people are going back having to fix the see also section because its not in the proper order - (in some cases simply reverting your additions). ABC order in the see also section is generally a requirement for GA and FA articles. Why because all should be ABC order this way we are not showing any preferences for a certain link or portal..

252:, assessing the remaining US related articles that haven't been assessed, eliminating the Unrefernced BLP's and others. If you have other suggestions or are interested in doing other things feel free. I just wanted to offer a few suggestions were additional help is needed. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, comments or suggestions or you can always post something on the projects talk page. If you do not want to recieve a monthly message please put an * before your name on the members page.-- 1496: 3943:. Whether or not outlines violate CFORK is debatable, but the outline feature that outline protesters keep pointing out is the lead sections - which are the same as in articles. The inclusion of a copy of the subject's main article in outline leads has brought a lot of heat to the outlines. Upon first glance, the lead makes outlines look like duplicates of articles, and this can be very disconcerting to some editors. I believe it is the element that triggers most of the deletion debates. 3226: 2140: 1701: 1451: 1328: 4271: 5588: 34: 150: 2398: 3122:- just one thing though - could we get the parameter "nocomm=" to be the defaulted to off and/or removed. This is for 2 reasons - Firstly - Wikimedia Commons is an external link, not an internal link. The "See also" section should be reserved for internal navigation when ever possible - Secondly, but related to the first is that most main pages already have commons link in the External links section by way of the 1397: 168:, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Knowledge, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page 5216: 1959: 5476: 5435: 2320:. After reviewing the project it appears that there have not been any active discussions on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. I have begun a discussion on the projects talk page to see how the members of the project feel about this suggestion. -- 1640:. Unfortunately, the primary references I could find for this term were the wikipedia article and various wikipedia mirrors. Additionally, the references are of primary research material. In my view, the entire article is ] as it defines what the term is and includes references to primary research material. Knowledge should be summary of the notable and 4314: 2227: 2694:

false. Kinda the same that you asked about Turk and Caicos and Bahamas. Neither the Mexican government or the Central American countries consider Mexico part of that region. Most importantly, no reputable geographic source considers Mexico part of that region. It seems (accordingly to Encyclopaedia Britannica) that

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This is an interesting question. Articles about incorporated places are primarily about the incorporated city or town, but may also include information about the surrounding area including the postal address. If you are discussing both the town and the surrounding area, just make that point clear.

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You are aware that setting the columns will make and over page on many many screens sizes - meaning they have to side scroll because we are forcing the columns and there screen is not big enough. {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} will make it so that the columns will not cause over paging because if there is

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is part of a new series of 2555 regional userbox templates. The new templates have a standard appearance and additional functionality. All flag images have a standard height of 45 pixels and a proportional width. I'll be happy to revert this template back to the previous template if a consensus so

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Do you read article history and diffs? You put it in the lead, I moved it to Demographics where it should be, then you re-added it to the lead. Someone might call that edit warring :) :) Anyway, seems resolved now, but please, if you're going to continue adding this estimate (which seems strange),

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There seems to be a great deal of confusion among editors as to what belongs in the See also section of an article. I added an optional headline to Template:Satop in an attempt to to add a human touch to a possibly incoherent collection of internal links. The default headline can either be changed

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Hi Buaidh, and thank you for the gracious invitations. I've been mostly inactive for a few years...and would love to jump back in on WikiProject Colorado. Think I'll start with work on some of the State Park articles. Also--dayyam, I am in the middle of a vacation trip in the high country on June

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that belongs in the body of the article (and noticeably, you are only adding this info to the lead, which should be a summary of the article's text). This population detail is of a level inappropriate to the lead of a broad overview article, besides that it's already in the infobox, and is only an

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I was updating the /doc pg for Template:Sar, and I noticed that there are only nine "r" links in that template. When I was checking Template:Satop, because it invokes 'sar', it uses ten links. I'm wondering if this will cause a problem in not displaying the tenth link. Appreciate your help! Thanks,

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Another question, if you don't mind... In the page why don't we have a category for National Natural Landmarks in the table at the end? All the other "Protected areas" seem to be listed. I searched in Protected Areas for a while before I found the page which does list them, but it seemed a little

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out stories in front of an audience using combinations of speech, gesture, mime, puppets, music, dance, sound and spectacle — indeed any one or more elements of the other performing arts. Bernard Beckerman defines theatre as what "occurs when one or more human beings, isolated in time and/or space,

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It seems a bold series of edits for a personal preference. I have a preference for {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} precisely because it adapts to the browser setting, which I thought was the point. But its a mild preference. A bigger problem is when reflists are set to 3 (or more) columns, which displays

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for that particular subsection, nor for any of the rest of the bottom subsections: "Reference", "External links," "Notes." None can have a "main" template. The other sections might have "main" articles linked elsewhere" History, Geography, Geology, Notables, etc. might have articles that are longer

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refers to articles that encompass the entire range of the subject article, i.e., an outline or index of the subject. This has been accepted practice for a number of years. I suppose we could create another template such as “General reference:”, but this would involve altering thousands articles.

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You appear to be adding "see also" entries to a good number of state articles. In theory, I have no objection to adding relevant links; but the majority of the new links already exist in the body of the article - and as a general rule, I'm not a big fan of needless redundant clutter. So, I object

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Hello. Previous discussions had been held and we reached a consensus at this page. I've reverted your hatnote for Mexico in the countries table because it is not necessary. It will only help to continue to spread a misconception that Mexico, in whole or in part, belongs to Central America which is

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I looked at both the old and new options for the template, and IMO some effort should have been made for back-compatibility, i.e. keep the same option numbers that were already there but then add the new ones, which would have left most people's User pages unchanged unless they wanted to go in and

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Hi there, Would you please take a look at the Granite article? I wrote it, but with very little information available and the fact that it has been almost a ghost town for a long time, it is mostly about the history of the town and gold mining in Colorado. I worked on it so hard and feel so very

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I'm told you're the person to talk to about that. I thought I'd do some outreach because I have additional articles to write for this topic, but would like to focus my energy on the items that would be most useful and notable for Knowledge generally and the outline. The articles I've written or

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I added the note about terminating the See also section because Template:Satop is dynamic and may change in appearance as additional portals are created. An invocation of Template:Clear at the end of the See also section keeps Template:Satop from running into the References section. I added the

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I have reverted a few of this additions then noticed there is many of them by you. You are aware that {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} lets screen size set the columns rather then forcing them set at 2 or 3 etc. If you are aware 30em - could you explain the rational behind forcing set columns on our

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Hi - Poking through your talk page archives it appears no one has ever asked you if you have any interest in being an administrator. Poking more, I see you were blocked once for disruptive editing. Do you have any interest in being an admin? I haven't perused your contribs, but one would think

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With the first of what I hope will be monthly newsletters I again want to welcome you to the project and hope that as we all work together through the year we can expand the project, create missing articles and generally improve the pedia thought mutual cooperation and support. Now that we have a

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physiographers describe physiographically (duh!) Central America as far as Mexico's Isthmus of Tehuantepec. But that's not a mainstream view. Also and most importantly this is already included in the article prose, in the appropiate sections. So, again a hatnote is not necessary in the countries

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by changing its text from "this user comes from Australia" to "this user lives in Australia". There are over 500 Australians linked to that userbox; many of us no longer live in Australia, so you rendered all our profiles inaccurate. Also, there was already a userbox carrying the text "this user

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Hi Buaidh, I've been to Turquoise Lake in Leadville many times. I'm sure there are a zillion Turquoise Lakes in the world, but the redirect was created solely for the Leadville one simply because, up until now, there had been no redirect. I see you're a registered PE, so I'm sure you have a good

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Very interesting reasoning, not sure that your preference is what all would like to see but o well. I personally see this as non issue , but user accessibility is always preferred over personal style preferences. But like I say not really concerned (I will not revert this changes) just was

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Template:Satop may be used to list geographic, political, historical, and other associations with an article. If and when a portal is created for that association, it is shown. Satop also creates a search reference for all its parameters. For example, a search engine can tell that Haiti is

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for references. A predictable number of columns is usually easier for a user to deal with than a range of column widths. This observation is based on my 41 years of software and user interface development. I made these changes merely as an aside to other article changes. I hope you're not

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Your arbitrary and unilateral reclassification of my membership in WikiprojectColorado is quite over-zealous, if not presumptuous. I know that you mean well, but just because I don't work on the articles you believe I should be working on does not mean that I am inactive. Please check out my

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I did, and you re-added it. More importantly, you shouldn't be adding it to the lead of any article-- it belongs in demographics. Others shouldn't have to clean up after you-- it would be more helpful if you'd add it in the right place to begin with (Minnesota is now corrected). Regards,

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At my age, I have trouble remembering what I did yesterday. I created Template:Temt to handle template names with explicit Template: namespace and templates outside of the Template: namespace. Otherwise, I tried to make Template:Temt as much like Template:Tlx as possible. Please see the

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To be honest with you I agree that it should be considered internal - However people have argued the fact that users have to login with a different account (if they dont have a universal account) shows its separation and it should not be treated any differently then all the other

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Hi, Buaidh. I posted this question (on WP:COLO under communities) two months ago, and still would like an answer. I'm placing it here in hopes you can give me some advice or direct me to some appropriate person. Feel free to act, or make suggestions for me to pursue. Many thanks!!

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80,000 over 4 years should be enough to establish that you're not a vandal (!). If you're interested, I'd be happy to nominate you (although I might want to look at what happened with the block in some detail first). Totally up to you. BTW - it was nice meeting you today. --

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So the categorization of particular countries in this geoscheme by the UN, was totally arbitrary and the UN aknowledges that. So it cannot be used as a geographical source. In this case is problematic, and completely inaccurate. Thanks for reading this loooong message. Cheers.

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to be a possible model for outline developers to follow. Please let me know what you think of it. All comments are welcome. Since you've done so much work on outlines, I'd really like to read your opinion of this one. Thank you. I look foreward to your reply.

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Also "main" template is for important articles summarized in the text. e.g. under "Alabama", if there were a History subsection, I might have a "main" template to "History of Alabama" with a summary in the Alabama article. But not in the "See also" section. Thanks.

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project and a solid pool of willing members I wanted to strike while the iron is hot and solicite help in doing a few things that I believe is a good next step in solidifiing the project. I have outlined a few suggestions where you can help with on the projects

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Since the links to (1.) the outline of the subject, (2.) the bibliography of the subject, and (3.) the index of articles related to the subject are special-case articles, and no other article links are italicized, I shall revert your change. Yours aye,

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Hi Buaidh. I noticed that in the new Satop template that there is both an "Index of BLANK-related topics" and "List of BLANK-related articles". Most of the time, and on Washington, D.C., that is the same thing. Could you please check on that? Thank you,

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I will be happy to get back into the Project, as I was active in 07 and 08, cleaning up WP Colo and its related Proj articles. I'll review the To-Do List in more detail and take on some. Thank you for taking the initiatve in the Proj. Cheers, Lance....

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There are all sorts of tasks available for any type of editor, whether you're a writer, organizer, gnome, coder, or image guru. The National Archives is making its resources available to Knowledge, so help us forge this important relationship! Please

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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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may have run into a Wikimedia software bug due to it's complexity. Templates near the end of the article, such as the reference list are not being processed. Do you have any ideas on how we can work around this problem or how to get it fixed?

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On the other hand a hatnote is very useful in the case of Bahamas and Turk and Caicos and I totally support it. But in the case of Mexico, it wasn't accurate and as I already said, it helped create a misconception about its geographic locale.

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that you have made similar edits to many countries' articles, and I'm still puzzled. Reading a comment you made above, I am guessing that you are making provision for new portals that might be created in future? Please consider using the

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Template "main", signifies the location of the "main" article for that particular subsection. Under "See also", what would "main" indicate? "See also" is merely a catchall subsection for topics/links not performed above. There can be no

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The Tenwiki thing in Boulder library was interesting, though I had to leave early. Thanks for working with Neal to set this up (I'm guessing you two worked together). Made a few of the articles you linked to on my talk page. None is

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is in the new format. I was asked to change the format by a number of users. Among other things, the old format had 18 options and the new format has 53 options. There is a new option corresponding to each of the 18 old options.

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I'm flattered that you've invited to work with WP Colorado, but I don't think I can do it, because I don't know much about the state of Colorado, I do not live there, I never have, but I do plant to possibly maybe visit someday.

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has been started on the Outlines WikiProject talk page. You are cordially invited to participate. Your input is greatly needed on possible ways to increase the availability of the outlines. I look forward to seeing you there.

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Or do you mean it said before you changed the userbox the same as it does now. If so than the meaning now is indeed still the same. It doesn't seem that much of an improvement though if even the old settings don't work anymore.

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Thanks for the reply. Is this timeout a problem when the article is viewed or when the article is saved? I just checked and the reference list didn't show up. We might have to break the article up or find another work around.

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in April 2011. Eager editors have changed the References section of many articles from number of columns to minimum column width. The choice of which to use makes relatively little difference. I personally prefer to use

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as an example were Wikimedia Commons is there in the wrong place and there 2 times - I see this is happening in our FA and GA article that work hard on having things in the right place and not be duplicated as seen at

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The problem must be solved soon, as recurring criticisms spark new anti-outline debates from time to time, which endanger the existence of outlines, and eat up an inordinate amount of editors' (and especially my) time.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

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It's hard to know if you think the outline is a good idea or not, but since I've not heard that you've got a concern I'll go ahead and work on it some more. If you have a concern, though, would you mind letting me

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I personally don't have strong feelings on the issue of number of columns versus minimum column width. I think that minimum column width is a nice feature to have, but I think it should be used sparingly. I think

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Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that very few editors have been able to accomplish. The Knowledge Community thanks you for your continuing efforts. Keep up the good work!

3822:– two closely related forms of watercraft paddling, involving manually propelling and navigating specialized boats called canoes and kayaks using a blade that is joined to a shaft, known as a paddle, in the water. 1029:

That's all nice and well. But that still doesn't explain why you changed a userbox on another user's page from stating "This user is interested in Canada" to "This user is a resident native citizen of Canada" See

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which would suggest the italicization of titles of outline/index articles. List article titles aren't italicized; outlines and indices are types of lists; therefore, outline/index titles aren't italicized, QED.

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of the design the outlines are evolving into: fully annotated structured topics lists. For examples of outlines for which their list entries have been annotated or are in the process of being annotated, see:

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2. Alphabetical order is required for the list of articles in the See also section, but it is not required for portal boxes. For regional articles, a regional hierarchy makes far greater sense. Yours aye,

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Hi. For a decidedly random reason, I happened to look at your User page today. It took a long time to load, presumably because the impressively large array of userboxes. Then I noticed that it is included in

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and will contact each of the active members for their comments and input on the suggestion. Please take a moment and add your comments to the discussion or feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

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What set of articles is the template intended to be used on? If less than 100% of articles with "See also" sections, then the reader will be left puzzled as to why some have the "headline" and others don't.

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read "This user is a native citizen of the Canada" until I changed it at 18:31 UTC today in a coordinated effort to simplify the maintenance of 1200 userbox templates. I changed the template invocation to

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WikiProject style guides don't override Knowledge-wide rules, especially when the templates in question merely link to outlines/indices as opposed to being used in outline/index articles. I see nothing in

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lives in Australia" so it's completely unclear why you made the edit. I have reverted it. Please do not do anything like this again. If you have made other similar edits, then please revert them yourself.

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has established a newsletter to inform anyone interested in United States related topics of the latest changes. This newsletter will not only discuss issues relating to WikiProject United States but also:

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The object of a Wikimedia outline is to present a systematic presentation of the various important aspects of a subject and provide easy user access to articles of interest. You definitely should join

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