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1683:). Therefore the vast majority of the discussion addressed that issue -- with most participants "commenting on the notability" -- as one would expect for a discussion about notability. In the end, the argument "to keep" certainly outweighed the argument "to delete." As noted in my close, a merge was suggested by several of the participants, including two editors giving it as a second option after their "keep" positions. (And one editor oddly being indifferent as to either deleting or merging.) Which tipped the scales of the close on the side of keeping the stand-alone list. Only three editors spoke to merging "back," with one of them mentioning an undiscussed split. However, there was no evidence that it was "clearly controversial and disputed" as you suggest -- especially since the consensus showed that the editors were fine with a stand-alone list. If you believe the original split was controversial, and it needs to be discussed, is there any reason that you can't create a discussion for that purpose now? 1664:. As such, the prior status quo was that the two pages were in the same location, with the prose and list both in the same place. The split was never discussed and was clearly controversial and disputed, therefore the default status quo should have been to revert to it. There were many contributors to the above discussion who favoured reverting back to that prior status quo, and I think that re-merging should have been the outcome of the discussion. I don't see a strong consensus for retaining the split specifically, there was no consensus in participants on that question, and many editors were simply commenting on the notability of such a list overall rather than the merits of a split. Please could you revisit the close? Cheers  — 935:
voted! keep feeling two sources were RS (although one was shown to be a blog) but they also wanted a complete rewrite (which might be considered a TNT vote!) The next two, Chekidalum and X, said the article passed NCORP. However, X also suggested the article should never have been put in mainspace.(Essentially a draftify or TNT vote!) HighKing wrote Keep but then argued that the article failed NCORP and needed to be deleted unless completely rewritten as a different topic. IMO, the majority consensus based on editors' arguments was the article should be removed for failing NCORP and/or needing a complete rewrite. I probably should have added a line about welcoming draftify requests from anyone.
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through the entire list of edits. Nevelselbert did make a large quantity of edits, however, they consisted entirely of minor copyedits, markup, addition of spaces, links, etc. I found no "substantial" addition of content or substance. Even so, I might have had no problem with the article's recreation if you could point out a substantial edit. But in this case, there is a bigger problem. The article is most likely a copyright violation -- which the sock account has been cited for and has admitted to previously. I think Neveselbert recognized that possibility when
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supplied literally dozens of references and got nowhere. This is a band I have a lot of knowledge of, and I am really passionate about getting live on Wiki. They absolutely ARE real and established albeit not currently in the hot 100! Any advise you give to restart the page from a position that wont immediately have it pulled again would be appreciated.
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Yes, that one required some careful reading of the participants' discussion points since a couple of them argued against their own "keep"s. The nominator (who was not identified as a sock at close) wanted to delete based on NCORP. Oaktree voted! delete based on it being a PR piece without RS. Teratix
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The real name for "Ruda Real," given on that page along with the birthdate, death date and places of birth and death were exact matches for a person listed in public government records including the United States Social Security Administration. The music career part may or may not have been real but
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Hello! I see that you deleted the page I began on musician Ben Seretan. I would like to republish that page and would very much appreciate your help with that. Ben Seretan is a notable musician and with greater edits, I believe this page to be beneficial to the indie rock and ambient music genres.
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If you close an AFD with XFDcloser, then this awesome tool will not only delete the article, its talk page and all redirects to the deleted article (and their talk pages) but it will also remove any red links that are left over from the deletion of the article. It's really standard practice and it
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for more than a year-and-a-half (since October 2022) without any controversy and remained unlinked to anywhere on WP other than talk pages. It was deleted again -- as it originally had been per AFD consensus. The current re-deletion is not illegitimate. Can you provide a further reason for keeping
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I recognize you state that any admin can reverse an action you've made, but I feel better if it's mentioned/discussed with you first CactusWriter. I believe, based on the contributions to the article by someone other than the sock, that it probably should not have been G5'd to begin with. I think
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Hi you were listed as the contact for admin removal of my recently submitted page: Alley of the Dolls (band). This is my first time creating a new page so I apologize for any noob mistakes in creating but it seemed like I had answered every question brought up by other admins and contributors and
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has just re-created it again following your most recent deletion. That's the third time it'd been deleted today, I think, and it's also been moved to draft space. Anything you can do? I can tag for speedy deletion, again, but I think they'll just re-create it. They're not responding on their talk
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CSD criteria has always been a source of discussion and disagreement for multiple reasons. And in this case, it initially revolves around the definition of "substantial edits." Substantial edits are the significant addition of text or expansion of the article content. Before deletion, I checked
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Hi, Mebigrouxboy. That draft was deleted multiple times (both in draft space and main space) when editors found that "no evidence that this existed, let alone that the things written here are true or verifiable." Please note that the article you link to in Spanish Knowledge (XXG) was a military
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with examples of close paraphrasing. As I'm sure you're aware, copyvios cannot be restored. Therefore I would not be comfortable in restoring this article. I'm sorry that you put so much copyediting work into the deleted article, Neveselbert, but unfortunately it will need to be recreated from
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It was definitely an "interpretive" decision based on the discussion points -- and knowing their was no chance to relist for further discussion. I have no problem if either of you wants to reverse my decision and re-open the AFD for a fourth relist or to even change my close. Just let me know.
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I just came to post about the same AFD. I was looking at some recent AFDs created by a sockpuppet and came across this one. I'm not sure how you came to a Delete decision here. It doesn't seem to be the consensus point of view of the participants. Thanks for any explanation you can offer.
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Hi CactusWriter. I'm just letting you know a bout this as a courtesy since you're the last admin to delete the article, FWIW, I don't think the IP who posted the request is aware that articles deleted via AfD aren't, in principle, eligible for REFUND and need to go to DR instead. --
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Hello, Liz. As can be seen on my contributions, I had already used XFDcloser on all my other AFD closes today. And you're right, it certainly does simplify the process -- not like the old days of tedious manual closes. Sorry about any broken redirects. Appreciate your help.
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agreed with this given that they declined the initial G5 tag before the creator of the AfD restored the tag. Neveselbert put a decent amount of work into cleaning up the article, and I think they should be given a chance to continue to do so if they are want to.
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Depends on the parameters selected for the block. In most cases, the user will still have access to their talk page in case they want to discuss or dispute their block. But, if that access is abused, talk page access is denied.
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You recently deleted an article that I spent extensive time on. I am more than happy to revise it, as I want to do it right, but I need the original source copy so I can move it to my Sandbox. Could you help me please? ~~~~
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Hi, Randykitty. I wavered on that one. I agree with you that almost all of the links are crap and should be tossed -- but most are just links to indices and the text wasn't exclusively promotional. The author's
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which is where the problem was detected at the time, but all of the references seem the same, from memory (a subset is included), the content is similar, and I think that this, together with evident
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Hi, Amakuru. I'll be happy to review my close of that discussion with you. First, the AFD was based solely on an alleged lack of notability of the list to exist on its own as a "stand-alone list" (
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will make the process so much easier for you than handling each AFD discussion closure yourself, manually. Just a suggestion that might save you some time and worry. Thanks again for your help.
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If you need help with something, feel free to ask. To leave a message for me, press the "new section" tab at the top of the page. Remember to sign your message with ~~~~. I will respond to all
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Thank you for your help closing AFD deletion discussions today. We always need more admins rotating in to spend some time assessing these discussions. However, please come familiar with
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the actual person was real with a real family. The article should either have been speedy deleted originally as non-notable or vandalism. In either case, it remained a violation of our
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Hello Alalch E. I agree. A comparison of the new article with the previous pages shows duplicated language. Because it was created by an SPA account, I've blocked the account on the
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Hi, SafariScribe. The AFD discussion can be closed early if the article has been concurrently deleted by Speedy Deletion -- it does not require the continued formal process. See
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Hi Bastun, I've deleted the article (again) and given the user a short block. Perhaps this will prod them to begin talking rather than continue with disruptive edits. Good luck.
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Thanks, I saw the Log action before I saw your comment. Quick question, if someone is locked, can they still access their talk page? Or does it mean they cannot sign in at all?
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TV3 Group (Baltics) is a pan-Baltic commercial broadcasting company owned by Providence Equity Partners through BitÄ— Group in Lithuania, previously a part of Viasat operations
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and use it to close discussions. It's what all other closers and relisters use and it's a really simple-to-use editing tool. I know you are not using it now because you closed
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Your explanation at the page didn’t make any sense. If you don’t think this constitutes a hoax please let MfD decide, don’t perform an illegitimate speedy deletion.
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by the discussion participants (they are all veteran WP editors). And review the links to the relevant guidelines. I saw that the issue revolved around a lack of
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shows they don't understand what "references" mean. The page is borderline, can't be moved without added RS and I expect I'll be G13-ing it in about 5 months.
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Just a heads up, this AfD was started by a now-blocked sock, so you may want to reconsider the close – maybe a relist while striking their comments? Cheers,
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Thanks, Pppery. I've replied. And as I've always noted at the top of this talk page -- I have no issue with any administrator reversing my decisions. Cheers.
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Hi, Myrealnamm. Yes, I saw your comment. The account was already blocked but I re-blocked to remove talk page access. The link above is now revdel'd.
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error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. (
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so that it can be edited to remove any promotional or non-neutral text. I suggest that you read through Knowledge (XXG) fundamental policies on
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I will not consider it wheel-warring if you reverse my admin actions, however I do expect you to leave a message here explaining your reasons.
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I thought it was kind of up in the air whether Ruda Real was a real person. There’s a good possibility that if real (pun not intended) his
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feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title.
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from the get-go. Thanks for the heads-up on the sock. Do you think I should edit the AFD or redo the deletion to reflect that?
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Just wanted to raise a query your close at the AFD here. The list was split out from the associated article (now at the title
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behavior and filed an SPI report. After a clerk has reviewed and filed the report, the page can be speedy deleted as a G5.
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campaign in 1816-1817. The hoax article was an alleged campaign in 1714. Let me know if you need further clarification.
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and the result was 22 broken redirect pages along with their talk pages. I needed to delete them all individually.
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before your question. This will attract the attention of experienced users who will most likely be able to help you.
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Dronebogus, it probably would have been helpful if I had linked to the AN page. My larger explanation was given at
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Knowledge (XXG):Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1149#Promoter generates online coverage in real time
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It seems like it had something to do with Dutch history, given the pages that link to it. Is that accurate? -
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If you are requesting administrative help and I am not currently active, here are some other options for you:
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Hi, Joriki. I see no problem with you creating an article about an International Criminal Court judge named
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about the original Vecteezy article creator) Account is blocked and reported to SPI. It should have been a
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applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
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Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript.
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If your problem does not fit into any of the above criteria, and your issue is urgent, make a post on the
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No problem. For future reference, know that if you had wanted, you could have closed the AFD yourself (
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When the conversation about an article is going on, the reason to delete that article in a hurry??--
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Number 57, on re-assessment, I now see that the article clearly was recreated by a sock, too. (see
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is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the
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was a hoax. Regardless as long as there was a legitimate reason to delete it I don’t care.
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Looks like we're mostly on the same page then, I just have less patience... :-) Cheers, --
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Hi CactusWriter, would you mind restoring this page to allow for continued discussion at
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Great, thank you! It has been edited for clarity and accuracy and it ready for review.
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where it can be edited for improvement. I suggest that you review the comments made at
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is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
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where a request was made to delete the unused page. The page had been removed from
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Hello - I don't know the circumstances of your previous deletion of the article
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Yes. It described a confrontation between Portuguese, Dutch and French armies.
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Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a
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Hi, Thequietthunder. Per your request, the deleted page has been restored at
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because it had been previously deleted a few weeks ago per AFD discussion at
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For taking the time to go through the sources and find my giant goof on the
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Thanks. No worries. It is a common mistake and easy enough to fix. Cheers!
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I am so sorry… that was such a bonehead mistake. Thank you for fixing it!
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Hi CactusWriter. I've already mentioned issues with the article/editor to
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Hello, Gowtham Sampath. I will assume your question concerns the article
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Ruda_Real
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WP:REFUND § Liverpool F.C. 2005–06 UEFA Champions League qualification
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from a page once you clean the history, since the template populates
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Hi CactusWriter :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview
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Administrators, if you see that I've made a mistake, please fix it.
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Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via
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If this is in any way problematic, please let me know. Thank you.
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for more general questions. You may also simply ask a question on
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reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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Draft:Journal of Communication & Public Relations (JCPR)
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may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may
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has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in
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Been futzing around with my sig -- thanks for the heads-up.
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Knowledge (XXG):List of hoaxes on Knowledge (XXG)/Ruda Real
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Knowledge (XXG):List of hoaxes on Knowledge (XXG)/Ruda Real
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was recently created. Previously, there were deletions of
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Hi CW, would you mind looking at this, please? Thanks, ‑‑
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Hi – about 10 years ago you speedy-deleted an article on
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Hello, SaraJKK. The restored article can be found now at
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Message added 21:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC). You can
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Premiership of Robert Jenkinson, 2nd Earl of Liverpool
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Okay. Here's the actual link that mentions the LTA at
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Recreating article on ICC judge Geoffrey A. Henderson
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I replied on that page. Also, what did you do here:
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Hi CactusWriter, just a friendly reminder to remove
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Hi, aren't all those external links promotional? --
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If you have questions, feel free to ask. 2194:conflict of interest volunteer response team 48:Administrator Intervention against Vandalism 2479:Administrators' newsletter – September 2024 498:Knowledge (XXG):Administrators' noticeboard 2803:? I've discussed this with another admin, 2478: 2330:You are invited to join the discussion at 1029:. I have recreated the deleted article at 2038:Administrators' newsletter – August 2024 74:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for permissions 3041:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for undeletion 2037: 2625: 1702:Administrators' newsletter – July 2024 1116:Administrators' newsletter – June 2024 708:Just FYI, your new signature links to 2641:subject-specific notability guideline 1899:, and one of them was yours -- a G5 ( 1701: 1588:. 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