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903:. My concern is only appropriate child protection policies, not keeping normal editors content. I would however like now to draw a line under this matter (my so-called alleged misbehaviour) and discuss the policy issues involved (which is what I've been trying to do). I have constantly tried to discuss these, and all I have an avalanche of malicious and irrelevant whining, whinging and moaning about "ooh personal attacks", combined with people stalking my edits to find any diff which they can take dramatic false offence to, and a 586: 227: 451: 138: 394: 638: 346: 616:. This could hav ebeen dealt with easily by redirecting the boy's article to his gradnfather but No. You had to escalate it. I won the AFD. It was wrongly judged. But then you had to escalate it until you won your pathetic little war. Well I hope you're glad you won. Meanwhile, we have failed this poor lad who doesn't deserve the attention. 558:'s competence - he clearly fucked up closing the AFD debate, but I was trying to give him a chance of redeeming himself. If he takes the chance proffered to rectify his obvious mistake in spite of the off-topic trolling my estimation of him will be greatly increased. So why would I want to personally attack him? 1236:. The "issue" will be "dealt with" by retaining the article (and trimming out COI content in the normal editing procedure as with any other article) and by leaving you blocked; be advised that continued commentary as you have been going on about in every response in this conversation since you have been blocked 858:
Assertions without evidence, such as much of the above, will be dismissed without being given much thought. Someone with about 80 edits over the past few months lecturing an admin with more than 500 times that number of edits over more than a decade, including numerous AfD closures, on the subtleties
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if the original closing admin had not had the good grace to admot and reverse his original mistake. I do not wish to publicly shame admins who make stupid decisions - they are after all only human and make bad mistakes sometimes. As I have been indisposed by unnecessary actions, if you would like
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Talk page access revoked for yet another instance of evidence-less insinuations against other editors despite explicit warnings. Repeating the same evidence-less accusation over and over again won't make it any more true. "Play the ball not the man" is good advice; if you had focused on explaining
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and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion
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As a child protection issue I expect this to be dealt with appropriately forthwith. So please deal with it. That means dealing with the article and the content not editors frustrated by various things I'm not allowed to describe. Play the ball not the man.
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What exactly did you mean by your comments in removing the Proposed deletion and at the AfD? I must admit I am still confused as to why exactly you called my PROD of that page unhelpful. Was it because Gates does actually meet the criteria for inclusion?
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of AfD (without, of course, explaining those subtleties, especially in light of King of Hearts' explatnation for his rationale) seems rather unwise to me. If you think the closure was in error, the appropriate venue would have been
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Just so this does not come as a surprise: One more evidence-less accusation or insinuation against another editor, and I'll revoke talk page access. If you want to discuss policy, you should get unblocked first; see
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to do that on my behalf, I would be most grateful for your assistance. The clear policy-based consensus was to delete, I'm sure any competent editor would agree. Your understanding of this is appreciated.
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can write an article on a 13 year old boy about whom they seem to have a rather unhealthy obsession. How is this acceptable? How is this protecting minors? How is this in line with notability policy?
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this is an issue of child protection when the likes of the Evening Standard have reported on Cable. What exactly does Cable need protection from? Why is the biography inappropriate?
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Also, I have to disagree with your assertion that "remarkable restraint" has been shown - certainly not by you. In fact, going through your rather short contribution list I find
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is so obviously inappropriate that, if you think that's you showing restraint, you do not have the capacity for civil discourse required to edit Knowledge.
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why the article's content is problematic, and not on various editors' supposed conduct and issues, we wouldn't be here. If you want to contest the block,
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Implying that another editor is being or is incompetent is a personal attack, which is why I removed both from your comment on King of Heart's talk page.
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on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:
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My block is clearly unnecessary and was made in error, but I'm not going to grovel and plead to be unblocked. I want to discuss the issues with
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that it is. Are we seriously to consider that he has hurt feelings? Are we seriously to consider that pointing out unfortunate lack of
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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out
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Your conduct towards other editors throughout has been combative, but not based on evidence. In particular, you have not explained
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Does wrongly accusing me of a personal attack itself constitute a personal attack? Or are admins exempt by their godlike status?
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for deletion and I thought you might want to contribute since you contested the Proposed deletion; you can find the discussion at
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to Knowledge! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as
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it - fortunately for Knowledge some of us have principles and are decent enough to see those through.
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for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on
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even before you were concerned about this article's fate - here it only gets worse. Something like
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Hello, and welcome to Knowledge. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on
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I have no "friends" in this issue, and I am not making false accusations. Personal attacks:
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first. The issues I want to discuss are child protection. I look forward to hearing from
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Yes. Meanwhile, we still have an inappropriate biography of a 13 year old boy created by
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capable of listening to this? How do you propose to deal with this (and also the case of
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if you are to take steps towards being unblocked. Furthermore is an understanding of
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outside of Knowledge - there is nothing to "protect" this "child" (teenager) from.
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Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Knowledge, as you did to
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tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with
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requesting that it be speedily deleted from Knowledge. This has been done under
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If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read
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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is
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from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may
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editors to contribute to an article on this child (yes, child). The
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Yes. I understand. I have not made any personal attacks recently.
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There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called
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I promise to be perfectly civil to anyone who deserve respect.
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is not being entirely unreasonable, but he seems to have taken
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is a "personal attack"? Remarkable restraint has been shown.
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spectacularly confirmed that. I'm sorry that you think I'm
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on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors.
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In particular, I would like to highlight how now we have
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if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.
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drop the stick and step away from the horse carcass
595:Personal attacks by Claudebone reported by Jim1138 1240:result in your talk page access being revoked. - 821:? What's your take on the way this was handled? 796:? Can you not see the real issue here is one of 271:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Caleb Frank Gates 353:. I noticed that you made a comment on the page 971:are poor, but there is quite enough there that 591:Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents 144: 168:section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion 967:. Now it's true that a lot of the sources on 905:WALL OF COMPLETE SILENCE ON THE POLICY ISSUES 8: 991:- "go fuck yourself" and " is a retard" are 819:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Aryton Cable 355:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Ayrton Cable 112:or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! 778:- how do I deal with wrongly closed AFDs? 178:subjects and should provide references to 100:I hope you enjoy editing here and being a 29:, may not conform to some of Knowledge's 741:should be the one blocked here, not me. 1002:. At this point what you need to do is 148:the guide to writing your first article 763:'s evidence at face value and not the 656:personal attacks towards other editors 1108:" - and are willing to enforce it. - 7: 658:and because it appears that you are 589:There is currently a discussion at 200:Knowledge's policies and guidelines 153:You may want to consider using the 14: 660:not here to build an encyclopedia 612:You deserve nothing but contempt 584: 449: 392: 344: 225: 580:Notification of ANI discussion 405:. If you continue, you may be 1: 1230:not an inappopriate biography 1224:when everyone is telling you 401:other editors, as you did on 265:Hello. I have now nominated 85:The five pillars of Knowledge 75:Biographies of living persons 1295:08:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC) 1252:06:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC) 1234:not a child protection issue 1187:05:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC) 1120:22:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 1088:19:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 1076:WP:Guide to appealing blocks 1069:14:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 1018:14:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 952:12:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 916:My plan was to take this to 891:10:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 853:09:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 831:09:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 809:08:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 788:08:41, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 751:08:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 732:08:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 702:08:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 626:08:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 607:08:20, 1 February 2016 (UTC) 568:12:48, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 550:12:45, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 518:12:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 500:12:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 485:12:33, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 444:12:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 429:11:58, 31 January 2016 (UTC) 388:01:05, 25 January 2016 (UTC) 335:01:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC) 299:16:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC) 281:20:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC) 157:to help you create articles. 80:How to write a great article 33:, and may not be retained. 985:You need to understand this 256:11:05, 8 January 2016 (UTC) 216:14:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC) 122:14:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC) 1323: 965:we have an article on them 817:. Can you have a look at 1226:Knowledge is not censored 1106:Knowledge is not censored 957:Knowledge is not censored 668:guide to appealing blocks 286:Would you please clarify? 242:. Please make use of the 70:Contributing to Knowledge 1182: 1064: 947: 848: 826: 804: 783: 746: 727: 654:from editing for making 621: 563: 513: 495: 439: 403:User talk:King of Hearts 310:here's the proper method 996:inappropriate behaviors 769:WP:COMPETENCEISREQUIRED 461:the next time you make 459:without further warning 21:Hello, Claudebone, and 641: 357:that didn't seem very 191:contest the nomination 159: 141: 1285:is available to you. 975:is passed. 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