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acquitting itself very badly) and the RfB issue was in progress. I was quite stunned to see the level of opposition over what I believe to be a fundamental misunderstanding of appropriate process. I feared, given the high bar (understandably) required for bureaucrats, that Joe would fail. I remarked to another editor that my world view of WP would be colored by the outcome, including my commitment to what has also struck me as an irrational project. I'm greatly cheered by the result. It would have been easy for crats either to note the level of opposition and close no consensus, or the level and the trend, making it an easier close, or not want to imply in any way anything other than a no-tolerance policy for pedophilia. Thankfully, you didn't take the easy route, and recognized that a pass could in no way (by an honest person) be construed as support for pedophelia.
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as part of a basis for how it may be set up. As you are the architect of the page I would request your permission to do so. As there is a general melange of discussion on my talkpage regarding my "initiative" I should be grateful if you would respond there. Cheers,
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