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amend accordingly. capitalized genre names and the additional info about eazy-e had not been added by me; these revisions and their reinclusion were collateral damage caused by your edits dealing with the group's name. n.w.a stands for "niggaz wit attitudes" -- this was a) sourced and b) is the way the band members themselves have always referred to the group, both in interviews and on record. it was agreed upon with other editors and an admin that both versions of the full name would be included on the page, until you chimed in and removed it arbitrarily. will amend accordingly as well. furthermore, in this specific case, the capitalization guidelines have to be modified, thanks to the fact that the band name is abbreviated in all capitals -- again, consistency and common sense reasons point that guidelines shouldn't be applied verbatim and indiscriminately. your efforts to help are appreciated, however. cheers.

2060:). The Swiss and Maltese Leagues use English naming by default, why you mention them here is beyond me. Clearly, you perform significant POV-pushing here, at best your criteria are arbitrary and inconsistent as is the entire messy naming process - unless you proceed and change these names to English names, your stance has no credibility. Lastly, you mention the english edition of the Croatian Football Federation - they call it the »First Croatian League« on the respective page, which is incorrect. You conveniently ignored the official league website, hnl.hr and the name is »Hrvatska Nogometna Liga«, period. I will not engage and waste my time in correcting POV-pushing, however. Good luck. -- 1044:

source is not enough to call it »established usage«, I’m afraid, and it’s corroborated by a short search on Google: 133 hits for »minor chess master«, including the Gossip article -- »major chess master« yields 2,880 hits, also far from »established«. »Minor master« has become the de-facto title of Gossip thanks to the wording in the Knowledge article, which is simply incorrect. The correct wording is »a master of little success in tournaments who usually finished in the lower half of the table« -- I will amend the article accordingly. --

2435:. The more interesting point however is that none of said articles has provided a source corroborating that the respective name is Liverpool Football Club, Chelsea Football Club or Fussball-Club Bayern München, so I have in fact done more than was done in these articles. If you really were interested in applying the arbitrary standardization rules you mentioned, why don’t you go ahead and abbreviate them to the common name with which they are referred to? I’d love to see how that goes. 382: 1700: 414: 2246: 2085: 1756: 1250: 875: 743: 670: 270: 1422:, where "fussball" means association football, or and other team outside of places where "football" means "gridiron football", is inappropriate. Those are not the legal names that are presented, they are their official, common names. Atlanta United FC is commonly known as Atlanta United and if "football club" is present, it is not used in media or by the league. The legal entity is immaterial. 1151: 331: 1511: 1509: 1507: 1493: 2594: 107: 1717:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 433:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 2532:

So, both official club and independent media sources use it over and over again, but what is not allowed, will be denied existence on Knowledge. XD I am curious though, why did you add Football Club to the full name section when it’s allegedly only the name of the corporate entity and not the »team«?

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I do not see what should be discussed, the use is incorrect, as is your analogy. You misunderstood, either inadvertently or deliberately, my point. Deadly = lethal - the outcome is certain death, not the likelihood thereof. Not sure what you mean by »deathestness«. There is nothing that can go beyond

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applies to the other listed acts -- the producers are not only "shared" but members of one of the other acts or even one of the acts proper. The critera are not cumulatively mandatory as you have stated (e.g. "AND"), rather a single criterion is sufficient for inclusion ("ANY", "OR", according to the

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thanks for the clarification in regard to the edits. concerning the discography, if you apply said guidelines, it would help your point much to be consistent in that regard -- "n.w.a & the posse" is not a studio album, but a compilation of several singles and eps released by various artists. will

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Thanks for your comment. It seems you are not familiar with the group and how the acts I listed have collaborated. They have mutually featured each other on their respective releases, share producer credits and have toured together -- this was common policy @ Ruthless Records at the time. The reason

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I am aware that it’s not a title and in this context it’s irrelevant, as a level of play required to obtain the title »master« has been achieved by Gossip -- minor is contradictory and not neutral, because there are no agreed-upon or standard criteria to classify someone as »minor« or »major«. One

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I don’t need to convince you, you are not an authority that grants permission to edit articles, albeit you assume the role of one. All the provided sources reference the club as a participating team in the league, not the company or legal construct behind it. What’s more, there primary source you

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Ne razumijem Vaše motive za revert mojih ispravaka na stranici o Radetu Šerbedžiji. Mišljenja sam da je ispravno pisati njegovo prezime u originalu, dakle s dijakritičkim znakovima. Mišljenja sam da su moje ispravke oko teatra Gavella u Zagrebu korektne, tj. da riječi koje sam izostavio/izmijenio

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That's why there is the part "commonly known as or commonly referred to as". I'm not sure you're coming from a football background, but I'd suggest you check out the pages for other football clubs, European or South American. Are you implying that the formal and legal names are barred from being

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He was a member. Look at his twitter, @WESTCOASTDOC. He wrote all of Eazy's lyrics on the N.W.A albums, many lyrics on Eazy-Duz-It, and all of the lyrics on his own album. Watch any interview with him or the other members. Straight Outta Compton, Eazy-Duz-It, and No One Can Do It Better were all

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proper nouns, if you ask me; that's just common sense. Speaking of common sense; that revision of the page was just a mess, the title for the infobox was not proper and suggestions also state that unnecessary noting in the lead are to be avoided, we only need what "N.W.A" stands for (as sourced:

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the instructions say that "associated acts" should be very closely interconnected in a business sense, that the acts share two or more common members, that they have collaborated multiple times or shared a stage as a single combined act, etc. It's not enough that the artists make similar music.

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What you fail to comprehend is the difference between an abbreviated name, nicknames and the official name. The official name is Atlanta United Football Club, abbreviated to Atlanta United FC or Atlanta United. Nobody disputed that they are also referred to as Atlanta United, but your repeated

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I understand the difference better than you, as you have now confirmed (the example with Manchester United FC supports my point, cheers). The only one edit warring is you. Just to remind you: first you wanted sources, as you initially claimed this is not the franchise’s name. When sources were

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Whether the logo is png or svg doesn't really matter to me. However, I've noticed an unfortunate tendancy by svg enthusiasts to replace existing images without carrying over all the information attached to the original file. Please, if you are going to make the change, carry along the category

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Have you even looked at a single one of the sources I provided (of which there are 18 - in words: eighteen - listed) instead of assuming? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn’t have claimed that that the full name is not spelled out in »any media coverage«, which is false and either caused by

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I am correct, both simply and elaborately, thanks to my fluency in English and the grasp of sound and consistent structures pertaining to logic and deduction. I know it’s difficult to let go of the assumed role of »ownership« in regard to articles or edits one has been involved in, but it is

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He was a collaborator, not a member -- which is a fundamental difference. I have been following N.W.A since 1988 -- the D.O.C. was never a member of the band. Go ahead and ask him, I've been in touch with him over Twitter. Here is the member list on the "Gangsta Gangsta" release:

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in the club’s crest, which is used in media coverage and on merchandise -- yet you are removing sourced and correct information because of your personal preference and based on your claims (without evidence) that they are commonly known without the "Football Club" in the

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Stop reverting the nationality on this Good Article. If you have an issue with what experienced editors have said, then take it to Talk. You are now in breach of the 3RR and will be reported if you change the article again without discussing it as advised

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The fact that you may not like it is unfortunate, but irrelevant and not a valid or acceptable reason to revert correct and sourced edits. "Football Club" is very well present when Atlanta United is the subject, thus your claim is false and not based on

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info box). I can certainly link the sources (credits printed on the released records, which are documented on the database discogs.com). I haven't seen that the associated acts have to be part of the article. If so, I can add them. Cheers. --

2477:. There are 16 more sources, help yourself. According to your and the other user’s reasoning, fans decided on the corporate name by way of an online-poll, right? They must be fans of the enterprise, but not the team, impressive. 174:

The format violated several guidelines, since you want me to explain; here we go I guess. Rules state that if a discography page already exists for a musical artist, nothing other than albums is supposed to be listed per

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i'm sorry but it is rather the other way round -- you have repeatedly removed correct information in the article along with its sources without providing either a reason for such edits or sources that could validate said

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I'm now seeing that you've been edit warring over this point for 3+ years. Stop. "Football Club" is the name of the corporation, and that's all. This article is not about the corporation, it is about the club, which is

1021:, "minor master" is not a title and the article does not say it is a title. Obviously "master" is the title and "minor" is just an adjective. It is correctly applied in this instance and it is established usage. See 2003:

Well, I’m not quite sure which of your fallacies I should address first, so let’s do it chronologically: please provide any evidence that my comparison with the articles for the French, German and Spanish leagues is

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etc. is literally laughable – those are all well-known leagues with well-established international names, while "Hrvatska nogometna liga" is not. Now check other leagues which are not world class how are they named:

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apsolutno točno, izmijenio sam jedan drugi dio teksta a pritom nisam dovoljno obratio pozor na ostatak izmjena -- ispričavam se i naravno da pozdravljam promjenu teksta u izvorno i točno pisanje osobnog imena. --

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Resorting to assumptions and ad hominem attacks, nice one. By all means, if it makes you feel better, continue to do so, I have no time to indulge your nonsense, since you don’t have a valid point. Good luck.

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i reverted your edits as they appeared to be vandalism, i however realized you were having a content dispute with another user and restored your edit as well as removed the warning from your talk page. cheers

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In the United States, where this team exists, "football" is played with a helmet and an elongated ball. The sources you found all reference the company name, not the team name. That was explained to you.

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is mentioned in the following media sources: »Atlanta United Football Club is already breaking Major League Soccer records. More than 26,000 fans paid deposits to secure season tickets. And it’s for a

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If you had done your research, you’d have probably realized it AND you would have learned that this user in question was blocking the change that had been advocated by a number of other editors:

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etc., you can clearly see the English-naming pattern there. Furthermore, even the Croatian Football Federation uses "Croatian Football League" in their English-language news, for example at

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I have provided sources for the TEAM name, not the corporation name. That »Football Club« is the corporation name is an unfounded claim by user Walter Görlitz who was in fact edit warring.

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deadly, even though it is semantically possible to form a comparative or a superlative, in this case even a hyperlative. Either way, feel free to push your POV, wikipedia is built on it. -

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The case with Atlanta United Football Club is that a group of users seem to believe they can claim something without providing proof, and sadly, they seem to be right in their belief.

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You claim to be a native English speaker, which plainly you are not. Perhaps you should revise your count of "native languages". Your point is simply beginner's confusion.

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When the source has no author, and it clearly reads "It is not to be used in any sporting references to the team, or in any public discussion", it's not actually official.

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supposed to mean in this context which is the usage of the native name proper? Irrelevant and unfounded. In addition to that, you contradict yourself: »Austrian Football

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I’ll tell you what, you can go on and indulge in manipulating articles to your liking, every so often I’m reminded what a toxic cess pool this is. Good luck. --

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Secondly, I’m not sure how or where you came to the conclusion that you are entitled to tell me what to do (»stop«), so kindly take your own advice and refrain.

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Sklon sam moje izmjene ponoviti, ako se slažete, no bit ću Vam zahvalan za obrazloženje, ukoliko i dalje mislite da to što sam napravio nije ispravno. Pozdrav,

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Not going to waste time on WP creating articles that have been arbitrarily removed and converted to draft status based on unsubstantiated claims. Cheers. --

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I listed them is not because of "similar music" but for the very reasons you listed. I'll revert accordingly, because the edit meets the criteria. --

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The source is the official club website. It clearly states that it is the FORMAL and LEGAL name under which the franchise is registered. --

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recorded over the course of about 7 months. It was all one big project, but they happened to be released as different albums.

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You just do not understand the difference between a legal entity and the team's name. Please stop edit warring about this.

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Why don’t you do an editor’s homework first and check the sources: From the Atlanta United official website: »We are a

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You're simply wrong. I don't know if that's an issue of fluency in English or just wrongness, but wrong regardless.

2370:"Atlanta United" or "Atlanta United FC". You will not find the full spelled out name on any MLS site, on the ATLUTD 1001:

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ignorance due to lack of research or a lie based on deliberate ommission of facts that prove the contrary. XD

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that's fine, will do -- i was just surprised as there was no additional info provided with the revert. --

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Do not use native names for Croatian football competitions, we use English naming convention per

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refer to says exactly the opposite to your unfounded claims: [

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For individuals: 'groups of which he or she has been a member'

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SuperSport becomes title sponsor of Croatian Football League

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other reference to the club is not the club's primary name.

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and countless other examples here on Knowledge, another is

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vs. abbreviation. You conveniently ignored my reference to

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detrimental to the quality of said articles. Good luck. --

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https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_dc/EXTUID_2865933

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That's why I reverted your addition to the NWA article.

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