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many administrators are reluctant to believe can happen. For that reason when I do give longer blocks in this kind of situation I sometimes give custom-written block notices that explicitly encourage the editor to make an unblock request, rather than just mentioning it as a possibility as the templated notices do, though I confess I often take the easier way out. Ironic though it may seem, I am actually happier dealing with someone who has been continuously vandalising over a period of weeks than someone who, as in this case, has had a couple of bursts of vandalism with a long gap in between. That is because in the first case I can give a short block in the hope it will, as you say "nudge" the editor, confident that they will notice the block, but in the second case, as I suggested above, I fear that such a short block may not be noticed at all, or if it is the editor may not care, which encourages me to use a longer block. However, it all comes down to making a guess about how someone will respond to a block without knowing the person, so whatever we do may be wrong. I still think that in this case I would probably give a longer block than you did, but I admit that, having thought further about it, I am not as certain about that as I was when I wrote my first post here.
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the editing history of the larger range 96.80.0.0/16, and found there a very large number of edits with no connection to our vandal, including 12 edits in the period in which our vandal has edited, three of them yesterday. I would therefore not even consider a range block of even 24 hours on that range unless there were a really major problem such as serious libel. Of course in this case there is no need to even consider a range block, as only one IP address has been used by our vandal, but I am just using that to illustrate how my assessment of the risk of collateral damage depends on the circumstances, and I think "long IP blocks should be avoided as they may catch innocent users", while a good principle, is too much of a simplification if applied as a blanket rule. Just a few of my thoughts on the matter, which may or may not be of interest to you.
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get lost. Also I briefly explained my experience on wiki. He then falsely accused me of sock puppetry after I explained my experience on wiki. He then lied to you that I attempted to remove this statement, the diffs show I did not remove any statement... He has also lied about the citations he has removed... One example, claiming the authority Dobson was not referenced in the The Plague Dogs book when he was.
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Third, all my editing is based on the entry's current content and the content of the citation I added There are cases when people simply make use of and to add their own links without considering whether the new citation can corroborate the content that needs citations. I think that is spamming and
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First, about COI, I am a former Caixin employee and once worked for their newsroom. I'm quite familiar with Caixin's content and their journalistic practice. At the same time, I find that a lot of China-related Knowledge (XXG) entries are far from perfect and the information is very old. So I hope to
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In good faith I did offer the user Amsgearing a chance to 3rd party his edits. I also made a compromise edit, were I deleted some inlines that were not cited, I deleted two or more lines of trivia and I preserved 11 cited inlines. I explained my edit. I was willing to go through the section with him.
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Hello I'm just wondering if is there any way to have a Wiki page approved. All other players from same industry are live from years and this company is the only one rejected by Wiki... Refferences are in place, even more last time when I checked for them. This is the page deleted by you few days ago:
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Its not.about me or so wine known by me.but I am a follower of SunDeep Bhardwaj and made a genuine page and added text ..Kindly do not judge my edits otherwise..i.am.new but I researched well to make a clean Knowledge (XXG). Kindly do not discourage me for further value addition to Knowledge (XXG) .
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Hi Luk, you blocked edits on the Ammar Campa-Najjar page and suggested a request for undeletion. (Protected "Ammar Campa-Najjar": Article has been deleted per Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Ammar Campa-Najjar (2nd nomination), please discuss at Knowledge (XXG):Requests for undeletion before
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You are perfectly right there, and I confess that when I wrote the above I was thinking mainly about stopping the vandalism, rather than about nudging the person into becoming a constructive editor. I have many times seen vandals turn into constructive editors, which is something that unfortunately
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True! And I like discussing this (it's been a long time since I had to argument a block) ! It all boils down on whether you want to prevent further harm to the project (longer block) or you want to make the point across while minimizing friendly fire (or even believe troublesome users can turn into
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I mostly agree with you. I however think short blocks are better than longer blocks at first, since they can serve as a first real warning shot even if the user doesn't come back in the timeframe (I left a template on their talk page). That block can also be used to escalate things up the following
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I made the request for undeletion and it was denied, with a claim that requesting deletion was not appropriate in this case, because of the outcome of two previous deletion discussions. I think that you as an administrator should now figure out a better plan that falls in line with Knowledge (XXG)
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This is 'section blanking v preservation' And I genuinely do not believe he can be reasoned with in good faith if you section blank. Once you try to reason with one thing, he removes more cites and blanks the full section. Section blanking moves to fast and hides key bits of information that might
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been two other edits, and the more recent one of those was over a year ago. I therefore think that the risk of collateral damage by a block on this IP address is utterly negligible, even for a block much longer than what I was considering. On the other hand, for comparison, I have just now checked
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I agree entirely with the ideas behind what you say, but I think a few points need to be a bit nuanced. The most significant point, I think, is that how likely it is that a long IP will catch innocent people depends very much on the particular IP address. I never block any IP address, even for the
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Hi, I'd prefer letting the block expire and see if they stopped, IPs may be shared and vandals often manage to get around them so the longer we block, the more probable someone else will get caught in the crossfire. If they start again, can you notify me and I think I'll protect the pages they
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than an encyclopedia article. I know you worked on it, but my personal opinion is that she is only known for her startup, and this would be more notable than herself. That being said, this is not an area I am that knowledgeable about so I'll let other editors take it from there :). Cheers! --
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I note that the Lisa Winning page I created has been proposed for deletion because 'the subject does not seem notable by herself'. I have therefore inserted a new second paragraph which refers to Lisa Winning being conferred position number 15 in Startup Daily’s top 50 Australian female
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is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
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talks about the ride-sharing company's recent scandal of drivers sexually assaulting female passengers even committing crimes of rape and murder. The scandal is widely reported not only by caixinglobal.com but also by many prestigious news organization in the world such as
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He has ignored my good faith offer to 3rd party this and went onto continue 'section blank.' A LOT of data has been removed here, almost a full section of knowledge has been removed in hours. I honestly do not know how you can reasonably sort this by a dispute resolution?
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hi! The IP geolocates to Redmond, WA so I don't think this is directly related (there's 3000 page views on that article per day). Looking at the contributions on that range, there's not much traffic there so I don't think blocking will be efficient. --
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Dear Luk, Mikhail Noginov contacted me today, he and Allan organized the SPIE Photonics Conference together, that Allan sadly has passed away this weekend. His family told him so and authorized him to spread the news in the Metamaterials community.
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Thank you for your message. I took that context into account when warning you, by checking every instance of links to caixinglobal.com. I agree that some are legitimate uses (and I didn't remove them). Otherwise, it would already be in the our Spam
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who you have blocked before, but whose second block expires at 22.01 today. Would you consider extending that block to keep them all in line? - I will be keeping an eye on that IP, but their edits are often after I have logged out for the night. -
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I am genuinely not in an edit war here. I do not want to waste my time edit waring. I just edit and disengage. I genuinely believe the problem here is 'section blanking.' I have attempted to resolve this going by using the wiki guidelines set here
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I understand that my editing practice haven't strictly followed Knowledge (XXG)'s protocol. Your warning is well received and I will pay close attention to my behavior in the future. If there is any chance that you may take a look at
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quacks faintly, so I'm not sure if it's him, but the IPs in this network geolocate to the same location. Other than the IPs I mentioned here, I don't think that this vandal has access to any other unblocked IPs, as far as I'm aware.
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no worries! It's probably autobiographical, but it was not enough clear cut to delete on sight, in my opinion. I know abandoned drafts can be deleted after a few month using G13, I don't think it will be an issue then :). --
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I will like to draw your attention to the page Amadu Sulley which should read Amadu Sulley regarding the Ghanaian personality who was Deputy Electoral Commissioner of which I believe you deleted.
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You are currently edit warring with multiple people. I don't believe in blocking on sight when 3RR is broken in good faith but you are dangerously close to having the article rolled back and protected. --
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I am unsure as to how to edit the citations already made on the the ocean storage of carbon dioxide page. They seem to be errors in syntax with dates mostly. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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Hi Luk, the draft I treid to put online "RESTORE - Horizon 2020" is a information about a research project of the EU. There are othe procets like this at wiki. So I think this is not advertisment.
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and the similarity in behavior. You might want to consider blocking the IP for an extended period of time; the user account should be indeffed due to its vandalism-only usage. The IP range
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you beat me to the block button by one minute. Since you got there first, I will accept your decision, but I thought I'd let you know that I don't agree. An editor who has been vandalising
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that was not challenged at the time and you are disagreeing with the outcome. However, I think the article needs more sourcing to assert their notability beside their indictment. Pinging
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By the way, I have now noticed something else in connection with that block. In the block log entry you said "To appeal or request help, please contact me..." with a link to
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should be blocked no matter what. My editing is definitely not that kind. I didn't maliciously add nonsense information or meaningless citations to pollute Knowledge (XXG).
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is a legitimate news website providing China business and financial news in English to readers in the world. It is not a spam website and its news content is trust-worthy.
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Thanks for the notice! I blocked the user, the IPs haven't edited this topic recently so I'm not sure a block will be effective at the moment. But yeah, it quacks... --
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to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination.
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is about its recent devastating flood caused by typhoon and local government's order of discharge of water from upstream reservoirs. This news is also reported by
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as single source and that's my fault. I will diversify sources to make sure that the information I add is verified by multiple parties and thus authentic.
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again, not responding to any of the comments on his talk page. Therefore, I request you to undertake necessary measures against him. Thanks in advance.
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edit from this IP address apart from those that are evidently from the vandal in question, but even in the whole 96.80.156.0/24 range there have only
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Hello. Remember the 4 IPs + ranges you blocked for that vandal in Texas? Well, I found another IP that he has been abusing for the past 6 months:
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If Caixin covers a subject well, other editors will take notice and use it as a primary source by themselves when contributing to articles.
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for Knowledge (XXG). However, I'm giving you the same advice I give to people editing when they have a close relationship to a subject:
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have been undone. I understand that my editing on Knowledge (XXG) looks like citation spamming because most of my editing is linked to
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Haha, yeah I have no idea of what happened there, and I noticed it after my mindless second click! Damn these deletion shortcuts! --
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time since the log is is displayed prominently in the block page. Users that come back from a block often get caught quite fast.
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I find no reason to understand this action as the article talks about person who meets Knowledge (XXG) Notability Criteria.
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Thanks for blocking the numerous 2A02:C7F:8613:3500:**** vandals for a month. There is, however, one number out of sequence
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be deterred by a short block, but in my experience in this situation the likelihood of the block doing any good is zero.
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Cool deal; thanks for being diligent and for taking care of these promotional users - and thanks for the "thanks"! :-)
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My apologies if my deletion of the user page stepped on any of your toes or caused you any inconvenience...
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Hi, I was indeed incorrect, articles that have been deleted after discussion must be discussed again at
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shortest time, without first checking the editing history and assessing whatever editing there has been
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for any other instances of that domain. If they try again, don't hesitate to report them on the
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Thanks for the notice, I have blocked that IP and semi protected all the article they modified:
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Thanks for letting me know. I have (hard) blocked the IP for 2 weeks, let's hope they stop. --
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First I want to say I realise you are a volunteer, so thank you for your time and advice.
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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.
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I count on you to kindly restore this page and to give me a feedback on this issue.
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about my undeclared COI issue. There are several points I would like to make here:
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The article was a stub and would have been expanded and thus should be protected.
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on ANI about "User:46.49.81.19's disruptive editing". You've left a warning on his
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Blanking_sections_sometimes_violates_policies
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policy. The situation and notability has changed since those two discussions.
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I want good faith, but how can there be good faith if someone section blanks?
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He then reverted and section blanked the page, as you can see by the diffs.
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Please, can you tell me what can I do to have it approved? Thank you Elian
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I am going to give around half of my life since today to the project Wiki
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was created about 20 minutes later, and continues spamming the same link,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Draft:Dreamstime&action=submit
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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
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This bot DID NOT nominate any file(s) for deletion; please refer to the
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This Archive Page covers all the messages left on my talk page in 2018
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Try_to_fix_problems
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Hello luk you commented on the notice board about dispute resolution
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PS: Good catch, I should change my macro when blocking an IP... --
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Replied on this user's talk page - 21:57, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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My edit wasn't vandalism but a vital contribution to a wiki page
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over a longer period than that for which I am thinking of blocking
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has re-started vandalism of Northern Ireland Railway articles -
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If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review
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Hi Luk, thanks for your reminder. I find that my editing on
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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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good contributors given a nudge). Both can be argued :). --
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indeed, this is an obvious puppet. I indefblocked them and
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avoid even the impression of having a conflict of interest
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User:46.49.81.19 made disruptive edits after your warning
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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the
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I appreciate any further advice you are able to offer.
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Hi there. The vandal has returned again, this time as
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For example, content I added on August 28, 2018 for
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Response to disruptive editing warning from ENTH711
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You have new messages at 48:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2503:A file that you uploaded or altered, 519:, that should get rid of them :). -- 7: 2642:2018 Arbitration Committee elections 2525:of each individual file for details. 2509:Knowledge (XXG):Files for discussion 1980:after their previous block expired. 1279:also appears to be one of his older 2655:Knowledge (XXG) arbitration process 2465:Sorry for the edit I'm new here :/ 1936:Let's hope they get the message -- 1882:Downpatrick and County Down Railway 717:Special:Contributions/96.80.156.118 453:Conversations are archived manually 2626:ArbCom 2018 election voter message 2409:Knowledge (XXG) Birthday Committee 2120:. I also received a reminder from 1804:vandalize for a longer period? -- 922:Knowledge (XXG) Birthday Committee 28: 2056:Hi. Can you undelete or reupload 871:The editor who uses the pseudonym 831:The editor who uses the pseudonym 759:The editor who uses the pseudonym 734:The editor who uses the pseudonym 2631: 2542: 2435: 2395: 953: 65: 33: 2676:and submit your choices on the 2563:Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago 1749:Northern Ireland Railway vandal 1515:Hello! On 4 August I started a 2557:09:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC) 2537:23:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 2475:21:27, 13 September 2018 (UTC) 945: 1: 2736:09:16, 26 November 2018 (UTC) 2722:21:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC) 2692:18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC) 2620:14:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC) 2600:07:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC) 2453:12:50, 7 September 2018 (UTC) 2431:01:42, 7 September 2018 (UTC) 2382:12:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC) 2362:13:50, 4 September 2018 (UTC) 2334:17:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC) 2311:16:50, 2 September 2018 (UTC) 1222:. 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