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906:] where you complained that you couldn't find the Gauci books. After the arbitration request was filed you started saying that that was never your "question or concern". Don't give us abbreviated gibberish and litanies of wikipolicies. Just show me - and every one here - that you can really uphold WP: AGF. Aaand if you repeat more silly accusations about me being someone else, I might go as far as asking that you get permabanned from Knowledge for one reason or another (OMG, will you get a life after that?!) 1692:. Hello, I am not someone else! To persist in your error is devilish. Remove the ridiculous claims that I am someone else and that I am someone else's sock! What's this other nonsense that MY (and I mean mine not someone else's) edits were spamming a website? Do you people want references or not? The real issue here is not me is it? The real problem is the attitude of the established wikieditors who just blow hot air amongst themselves. I must remember to apologise to 1663:
editing his articles and be permabanned; the further irony was in him demanding I revert my "vandalism" of his articles, when in fact I had made no edits to either one and only filed the G5 on the second article after the indef block. From my perspective, today's discussion has shown neither that Mobile historian regrets his incivilities nor demonstrates any resolve to cease them, and I suggest that evidence of both be a precondition to removing any block.
1339: 309:, I lack the knowledge to do so. I have zero familiarity with Maltese nobility. I have seen brief mention of the Barba, Bianchi, (Busco/)Bosco, Cardona, Crispo, Gomez, Guevara(/Guara/Grayera), Lascaris, Navarro, Piscopo, Ragusa and Torres families while foraging for genealogical data on distant relatives of mine, but my foraging has not yet led me into the genealogies of post-15th-century Maltese noble families. Sorry. - 1429:? I suspect that Checkuser will produce an indecisive result. If that is the case, I may unblock you provisionally with an expectation that you'll be extra careful in what you add to articles, and that you'll take care to be polite to other editors. Please hang on a bit longer. (In the unlikely case Checkuser comes back and says you've been trying to deceive us, we'll talk about next steps in that case.) 1387:
very macho and taken in the spirit of Fun when reading them, but not when those same editors suddenly butcher a researched article, point suspicions and accusations and throw you in a dustbin, leaving Knowledge with a dismembered piece which "looks good according to policy". This is hurtful to the good-faith editor and confusing to the reader. Please consider this aspect too when deliberating. Thank you
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specifically enjoins us from responding to uncivil comments in kind, never mind twenty for one.) As far as "not giving him an opportunity to defend himself," no one's prevented him from having his say, and he chose to exercise that say with insult and to advocate that other editors be prevented from
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Just for my own two cents on Mobile historian accusations, a casual glance at the timestamps on my comments on the Royalty and Nobility WikiProject talk page would show that far from "immediately," it took me a full day and MH's startling filing of a RfA without any attempt on his part to discuss the
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I would note that I blocked solely on my perception of block evasion, although my attention was drawn by a complaint of inappropriate commentary made at WP:AN. I worked to the principle that once block evasion is apparent then other concerns become moot. My comment regarding "mischief" is that of the
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I declined to respond to your previous missive because you were explicit in your intention not to converse in a civil and civilized manner, and further comment from me under the circumstances would get no one anywhere. The situation being what it now is, this is my last chance to get through to you.
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Does that mean you're going to revert the edits and take back that rubbish you wrote about me? If that is so, it might be good start to be civil to each other. AAAaand (probably with an accent) you and your friend can stop your nonsense about socks and puppets. We might even become friends (unlikely)
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There has been no attempt at dispute resolution. I am not going to bother because it would be pointless exercise given the rude and shallow attitude of those two 'editors'. I object to Knowledge allowing such people pontificate from the comfort of some back street garage and come up with a cheapskate
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which does not concern me. There's alot of good material on www.maltagenealogy.com, even copies of original published texts. All of those texts are very relevant to my edits and referring to that site would have been an easy way of verifying the content of old published sources. Further, quite aside
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appears to have an issue with a particular website, I promise to put in other published book and magazine references instead, as soon as my edits have been reverted to how I left them last. I will also make the articles shorter because that too seems to be an issue. Lastly, I want my edits protected
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for ArbCom to examine a conflict that has not previously been through some other form of dispute resolution. As a consequence do not be surprised if ArbCom simply dismiss the request with an instruction of "Take to alternative dispute resolution". Regardless I will go ahead and format your request.
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will carry more weight when you better follow the section which says "do not respond in kind." As far as CSDing the second article, I was certainly entitled to do so; it had been created by an account under indef block for sockpuppetry of a banned user, that block happens to remain, and that's the
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As far as "peace offerings" go, this wouldn't be my call to make. You're still thinking of this as some war, and me as some opposing side who needs to be placated, thwarted or defeated. Your block is the result of violations of Knowledge rules of conduct, imposed by administrators. I am not one,
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is looking into this matter. My inclination is that you are either not the same editor, or that you are the same editor, but you've shown signs of improvement. As Less pointed out, you know something about Knowledge policies, and I've noticed that you've made at least some contributions that were
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Please do take as much time as you need to check. I would like to add one other observation: My angry outburst may have been fanned by looking up some other editors' talk pages where a common caveat reads something like "don't get offended by my tone of edits" "go somewhere else" etc, which is all
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and many, many others from Nobel Prize winners to government ministers to film stars to industrialists - who neither receive any more of a voice than any other editor, expect the suspension of Knowledge policies and guidelines in their favor or require others to kowtow to them as a precondition to
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Plainly you're an energetic fellow, and possibly the next time around you will not only turn that energy to learning the rules, but will believe they apply to you. Perhaps there are venues and forums where your self-proclaimed "nobility" buys you deference, but there are genuine celebrities using
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Mr. Abitrator, before the request for arbitration gets dismissed just because RGT and his fetid friend are saying that one should first attempt an alternative mode of dispute resolution, and because I am hopelessly outnumbered by so many vain people who pass their time by awarding each other silly
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Look, at least one of us is a grown up. Just admit you messed up badly on this one and revert your (and your little friend's) edits and I promise I'll try make those articles shorter and put in lots of other references. As for the other source which seems to be upsetting you, it's a great site and
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To first paragreph: The site links from www.maltagenealogy.com. It's relevant because it makes available a lot of old documents which have been ignored by some publications but mentioned in others. I have a few reservations about the site's contents and claims, and I have corresponded with him to
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gave me an opportunity to defend myself from their onslught of accusations. Given my very short life on Knowledge and the fact that I already have a proven case history of showing a propensity to act on constructive criticism, I found this treatment highly offensive. So I reacted, strongly. I was
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still applied to the situation. From there on out, we've all placed reliance on the administrators' presumption that you were and the indef block based, in part, on that. That information was, of course, not the only factor in your block. At this point, you've received advice and links on the
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Someone who even now cannot avoid posting incivilities or insults may have learned less than he claims; certainly one factor in removing an indefinite block is accepting responsibility for his actions and resolving not to do them again. Further, quite aside from the startling parallel MH draws
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Yes, there is a highly informative website which has been cited. It is the only site known to have so much readily avaialble information on the subject. Have a look at that site and see the primary sources cited over there. It even has pictures of the documents. You will also see that that site
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and that in the knowledge that I am not the person I have been falsely accused of being, all I would like from fellow editors is some constructive guidance on how to formulate an article on this troubled subject which is acceptable to WP policies. In fairness to all, I should also add that any
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with a "hate campaign against Malta" (???), if he's now resolved to use published references instead of Said-Vassallo's webpage ... doesn't that imply acceptance that the webpage and Said-Vassallo's claims are, in fact, unverified and suspect, and the whole house of cards concerning "false
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ask for is basic: evidence not linked to Charles Said-Vassallo, whose credentials as a genealogist are self-proclaimed only and verified by no one, and whose antics as a self-promoter are on record; inline citations to your references; and for the articles to be trimmed dramatically as per
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has some kind of personal issue with someone else which I don't want to get into and I should not be penalised for someone's prejudice against someone else. ** The block should never have been imposed. ** I never caused damage or disruption to Knowledge, and I will continue making useful
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This article is not about what its title claims it is about. There is one passing reference to the St. Lawrence's Church in this article (referred to as the Church of Saint Laurence), the remainder of the article appears to mostly be about various random points in the history of
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for your assistance. I am not a sock or puppet. By now your computer probably verified that. Secondly, it is clear that there's some kind of agenda against the subject. Is it plain ignorance or green eyed envy? Whatever it is Knowledge is not the place for these people.
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on November 28th ... interestingly enough, the day before the most recent unblock request by this blocked sockpuppet. He thought it odd that an unblock request after a year and a half would suddenly arise, came across this case and felt passing the word might be useful.
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and appeals do not go through me. In your shoes, I'd start with demonstrating how you are ceasing to make demands (for my part, I intend to continue to edit Maltese articles, where and as I see fit, in accordance with policy and guideline), understand the elements of
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Knowledge does not have firm rules besides the five general principles presented here. Be bold in updating articles and do not worry about making mistakes. Your efforts do not need to be perfect; because prior versions are saved by default, no damage you might do is
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I have reviewed the evidence and have reached the same conclusion as the other admins who have declined your previous unblock requests. I also now consider that your constant requests are disruptive and I am extending your editing block to cover this page as well.
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Finally, Knowledge is not a schoolyard where adversarial behavior or taunts are appropriate or welcome. Questions have been raised about Charles Gauci's credentials as a genealogist, based on his self-promotional behavior on Knowledge last year. Such questions
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A quick look at the similarities between the two accounts does reveal some similarities in editing habits. What's more troubling is the similarity in the tendency to revert to insults and personal attacks when challenged. Combined with the recent
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Whilst you were on your little roll, your mantra was "most of the rest of the sourcing is cited as coming from works by a Charles Gauci" and you asked for verifiability. Now that has been verified but you've got ahelluvalot of egg on your face. So
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I've emailed the en-functionaries list to request help from a checkuser. I'm not sure whether the data is stale, but I'd like to know before making a decision. I've also asked the blocking admin to post a summary of the behavioral evidence.
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Not, mind you, that given the extremely uncivil talk this fellow's spitting out, that's likely to go well. This sort of "How dare these peons question me??" language, heaped with insults and threats, is exactly Tancarville's style.
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Other readers already commented favourably on the revised format. All were positive until this incident. Sadly doubts have now been sown in their minds but this notwithstanding, the references are all at hand and readily available.
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has also deleted my articles (see above) using the G5 procedure when it is a straightforward conclusion that those articles were created by me and not by a banned user. * I might have over-reacted to the high-handed attitude of
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said that on balance, he thought that the disruption and harm likely to result from an unblock of my account are not worth the possible gain. I disagree. It is clear that by not unblocking my account Knowledge has allowed
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You'd think that the Knowledge adminsitrators would have checked the ISPs by now. Wouldn't you get very annoyed too had these administrators called you a puppet when they should have ISP evidence? Your earlier comment
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facts on the ground. So far, the only evidence in the hands of the administrators that you're not a sockpuppet are your repeated denials, something characteristic of most such violators challenging their blocks. (And
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Properly sourced, and at a proper length, those two articles had elements of skilled execution and may have been assets. They won't be, now, and no one is to blame for that but yourself. That's a pity and a waste.
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I've yet to be uncivil here; it is you who has been repeatedly and reflexively insulting. You may, of course, choose to address the concerns posed to you instead of further combative behavior. That's up to you.
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to follow up his false accusations with impunity, and the biggest loser of all this is Knowledge for having allowed him to do that. The unblock should be made to help me make useful contributions on matters
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I am angry and shocked with all this. Please revise your policy and get rid of these 'editors' and their shameful talk, if not for the contents of the articles under discussion at least for the benefit of
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Hey RGT, Why are you so quiet now? Do you have some sort of hidden agenda on the subject? Just before your little friend started getting his hands dirty, you said that you wanted to check the sources
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articles, them conforming to Knowledge policies, guidelines and practices are not contingent on any demands on your part, and any editor has the right - and, indeed, the duty - to ensure that they do.
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served him right and it ends there. ** the block is no longer necessary because I understand what I was blocked for, namely that there was a false perception that I was someone else's sock and that
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Thank you. I see your point about more verifiability, credentials and all that and I agree that things should improve. But it seems that your issue is a little more basic than that. Look:-
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My first time here and boy I sure don't feel welcome. I think I might as well leave you alone to play with barnstars which seem to be more important than putting together an encyclopedia.
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etc etc. reads different when compared to the context of the later version. Ok, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but that doesn't mean you were entitled to G5 my articles nor was
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I am new here. I realize that past edits by somebody else may have raised concerns about verifiability but I am (now, was) willing to discuss most points that could have been raised.
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Account is quite possibly a sock puppet, and appears to be part of a spamming campaign. The risk to Knowledge is not worth the potential benefit of unblocking. See discussion below.
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I am really shocked with the attitude of those two editors and I am very disappointed with the fickleness of those who first commented favourably and are now talking about something
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clearly realised but never admitted, that his original concern (of verifiability) was misjudged, he did not take the cue to rectify his mistake. *I had no wish to communicate with
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barnstars and green stamp triple crowns, and because I am foolish enough to actually believe that you will order those two peons to revert their edits, I have one last question:
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which seems to be the bee stuck in your bonnet. The articles describe the history and what the subjects are about. The only genealogy shown was a short and peripheral table for
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started saying that my edits had elements of skilled execution and may have been assets. * In my case the block reason seems to be two: that I am a sock and that I was rude to
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optional; you do not get to throw insults around just because you feel like it, and you can be temporarily or indefinitely blocked if you persist. Secondly, I suggest reading
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and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—
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issues in a civil or good faith fashion for me to wonder if this was a sock of Tancarville. (I agree that Bali's comment about "crap" was provocative and uncivil, but
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and its related issues, I'd like to have a go at improving the articles (the present one is hopelessly incorrect). Please come visit our country some time. Thank you
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Read my lips: Stop being disruptive and petty. If you want improvements give me a chance, and you must stop your nonsense about me being someone else. Now, will you
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I've just pestered the functionaries to see if we can get help from a checkuser. I am sorry it is taking so long. Unblock requests should be processed promptly.
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took this to mean he could reverse my edits and planted a sock tag to my identity. His reason - in his words - was that I was filling the encyclopedia "with crap"
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Welcome to Knowledge. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Knowledge, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to
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Please strike your personal attacks. It's bullying, and prevents any presumption of good faith. It's also not allowed. If you choose not to, I'll take this up at
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Find consensus, avoid edit wars, follow the three-revert rule, and remember that there are 3,097,322 articles on the English Knowledge to work on and discuss:
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning:
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The references are real. For goodness's sake, an entire report was even presented to the British Parliament! How much more notable can that be?!
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to mean that he could suggest that a SPI case could be opened and you know what happened next. It seems that the person at fault for all this is
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You seem to be under some strange misimpressions of what Knowledge is about and how things are done here; I strongly recommend you read through
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deleted my edits (G5) on the false premise that they were made by an already banned user. This false allegation is still being made use of by
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Not that that was my question or concern. As far as your second link goes, no one doubted that the Royal Commission existed either. What we
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as it needs to be reformatted. I am happy to assist you to format your request properly, but I'll need some additional information first.
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because he was the first to be rude and when he did finally complain, I used his own tone to put him in his place. Check my ISP, I am not
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Now RGT and whatever the the other one calls himself, run along and go back to your computer games, or whatever you like doing best.
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specifically enjoins everyone from responding to uncivil comments in kind, but this duty has a higher bearing on administrators like
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Forget Civil. That obviously doesn't work for you and your little friend. Instead, let's try reason like adults. You were invited
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as long as the reason is policy for general good and it's made very clear that I am not User:Tancarville or a sock puppet of his
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has been a troubled area, and that if you want to edit here you'll need to consult with other editors, try your best to follow
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I received an e-mail head's up (overlooked for a couple weeks, alas) from an admin who processed an unblock request from
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and his website at www.maltagenealogy.com. That is none of my business, but I can't help noticing that he was awarded by
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I think I've answered my own questions already, but feel free to reply. At this time I have requested spam blacklisting
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Mine is one of those rare reasons why the block should be reversed. I have been accused of being someone else. I am not
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uncivil crack; you've made dozens in return and aimed at several editors besides Bali, and your ongoing references to
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You've been throwing out this allegation of yours for two weeks now. As it happens, we have the original diff here
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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from all that, that site actually says that it is a research site in progress and appears to be updated regularly.
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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or a sock puppet of his, I don't mind your decision. If WP ever reconsiders its position on the irksome subject of
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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And if you care to read the articles which you and your friend vandalised, you will see that there's no mention of
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where I state in response to others, in fact, that we didn't at that point know whether you were a sock and that
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One last request (please!). I'm not after any blood of any sort, but those two editors need a bit of talking to.
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Sorry can't do that 'coz I'm still too numbed by your shameful, disgusting and shocking language and behaviour.
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you should appreciate other people's efforts. Life isn't just about you and your favourite little hockey stick.
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things you need to do to have a hope of the block being removed. I've nothing further to add to that advice.
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Act in good faith, never disrupt Knowledge to illustrate a point, and assume good faith on the part of others:
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On balance, I think the disruption and harm likely to result from an unblock are not worth the possible gain.
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To second paragraph: As long as the reason is policy for general good and it's made very clear that I am not
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acting in the civil and good faith fashion which is Knowledge's norm; I urge you to emulate their example.
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responsibility, if you are the one to whom such questions are posed. It's not a matter of "beating" anyone.
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you say that that was never your "question or concern"!!! Aaaand what exactly is the job you say you have?
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to a similar pov to that of the blocked account. My response to Jehochman's enquiry is at my talkpage.
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a special barnstar (How sickeningly childish) in connection with his hate campaign against that user
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is an obvious candidate because he had issues in the past with the subjects. But instead of helping,
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and a few more of our guidelines before starting to lob personal attacks and rushing to arbitration.
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I am asking that the pages be restored to before they were vandalised by these so-called editors.
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entitled to trash my edits. Nor does it entitle you to continue insisting that I'm a sock.
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later removed at least one article created by me because he said it was created by a
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sock is removed completely, so please verify my ISP and have me unblocked. Thank you
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actually bothers to compare and criticize publications. So much for self-promotion!
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Not at all. All that my suggestion means is that I'm offering a peace offering to
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blocked me immediately because he believed the false claim that I was a sock of
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To quote myself from the earlier debate, "To wit: ........this is the same guy
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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing
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I am not someone else! Check the ISPs. Do your job properly! Check properly!
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where I say nothing of the sort. The next diff from me is seven hours later
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Please go ahead and reformat my complaint according to the required form.
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After advice i received at WQA i've mentioned you in another place. Here
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content by editing the page and re-adding that content. The links can be
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Who are the editors you wish to officially name as "involved parties"?
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MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#maltagenealogy.com_and_saidvassallo.com
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deleting 18102 characters on 2009-11-03T19:09:14+00:00 . Thank you.
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I am identifying the two individuals I named as involved parties.
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for examples of the actions you believe require Arbitration review.
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Hi there. I reverted your addition of a request for arbitration to
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for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the
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Good to remind everyone that all this started at the redux here
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then took offence and reported me for abusing him (what cheek).
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Has there been any attempt at dispute resolution elsewhere? Eg.
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Wait a minute. Look at my time stamps (17:54 and 18:00) here
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revert those edits, so we can finally put this behind us?
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allegations" and "hate campaigns" comes tumbling down?
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Maltese nobility
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VoABot II
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17:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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St. Lawrence's Church, Vittoriosa

St. Lawrence's Church, Vittoriosa
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13:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Maltese nobility
reverted

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