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Indeed, that day will come for everyone. As far as the film production, it may not actually happen this year (it's gonna take a large up-front investment), and it'll be humble beginnings to start with. It'll mostly just begin with scripts I wrote myself. Hopefully at some point it will actually be a
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I have been contributing excessively, more than any human being can think of :P I can't praise enough CS wolves for all he's doing, I didn't realise the scale of it back then. I hope you come back, there is sooo much work to be done, and it is fun! I think you are a very kind girl for giving me that
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Oh I've had a busy last few months, no question. I could tell you some stories, but I'm basically good. I notice that the Giro start list here has a 108 on it. Can't find one on
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Oops, only just seen this response! Wiggins is being his arrogant self, knowing how much damage Froome could do, like the stage up to
Peyragudes (?) in last year's Tour before Sky reined him back. Evans is a funny one; I've heard rumours that BMC have put all their eggs in the Tour basket for van
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Okay well I like the blog's name haha. And I do wish you the best of luck with those scripts and the film production company that you aim to begin. The one thing I really want to do before I get on a semi-permanent hiatus is to get the
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Okay good to know, well welcome back for the Giro at least then! Like yourself, I'm starting to get things going on so I'm probably going to be taking an almost permanent leave in the coming future.
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The Grand Tours have been wild of late. Evans causing BMC a headache for the Tour, Urán causing Sky a headache at the Giro, but at least it isn't as warm as the Tour of California!
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