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and should be ashamed of yourselves. Why on Earth would anyone want to participate in this Soap opera? I recommend you go ahead and block this account indefinately and I also think you should do a SPI. Definately need to do an SPI, might be a whole bunch more users "posing" as
Kumioko. Hundreds or thousands of them I'll bet. I'm sure while he was racking up that massive edit count and doing all that work around the project he was actually posing as multiple users. Maybe even you, how do we know your not Kumioko? Maybe I'm really Jimbo posing to see how you would react, Maybe Jimbo is Kumioko and has been posing as an editor all along.
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Kumioko I want to see something more tangible than a malformed edit history that was reverted as Vandalism, reverted by an IP and then reverted again by FRAM. Certainly you can provide some better evidence to support your conclusion than that! And this lousy Wiki software doesn't even allow an editor to make a comment. Completely stupid. Someone should fix the software so the accused can at least comment on their behalf in a discussion like this.
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continue contributing great, I will be happy too, if not then I can sit and watch a football game, play Xbox or any number of other things. Think what you want but I'm not that editor and I suspect if you could actually prove it you would have blocked me already. I'm really not mad about this, I'm just somewhat surprised and disappointed that we are wasting so much hard drive space in discussions like this instead of editing and building an encyclopedia.
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the kind of people who find it easy are the kind of people who cause all kinds of trouble. As it stands, you're not banned, you're just blocked for a week. If you want to go, then that's a shame, but it's your call. If you want to stay, then please stop playing games, wait a week, and don't keep
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Certainly no need now, it looks like everyone already passed judgement. I can see why
Kumioko got so pissed off. All those years of work and loyalty to the project and now all it takes is one editor to say that I am associated to them and the lynch mob gathers fer da hangin'. You all are ridiculous
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Noted. So is it normally acceptable to accuse a new editor of being someone they are not? Frankly, if this is normally how new users are treated I am surprised that
Knowledge has lasted as long as it has. If you feel I have done something wrong or if you think I am Kumioko socking then feel free to
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No worries you all go on and have your chat. Like I said I don't really care because your not hurting me. Just a suggestion, you might also want to block Kumi-taskbot. It also might interest you to know that IP 138 is a proxy for about half the US navy so blocking it prevents about 200, 000 people
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No problem. Totally fine since I am not that user but I see how things are handled now here so its all good. Kumioko already stated they were the 71 IP and I stated I used teh 138. If you want to block me though the message is clear to me and understood. I won't be editing anymore. Just for FYI, I
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Well, you and I both know what's going on, let's not be silly. If I'd wanted to toss out a socking block I'd have done so. But personally I'd rather let productive editors edit. All I'm asking is that you not waste other editors' time by asking them questions you already know the answer to. Fair
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What is it with this place? I'm sure your used to editors who want to stay, beg for their accounts to be left alone. I'm not that vested! I've only been here for a couple weeks. I am perfectly happy to let this go and continue editing but I'm not going to fight for it. If
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