User talk:Smerus/Archive 1 - Knowledge (XXG)

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though I probably disagree with you, I don't think that something like that is or should be important enough for anyone to leave, but can well understand frustration about having to deal with it. I would have dropped you an e-mail, which you don't have enabled right now, to indicate that I think and hope that maybe, sometime in the near future, we might, maybe, get around to creating some sort of regularly scheduled centralized discussion about some of these topics, which, if we can get it done, would at least hopefully bring about some stability in the situation regarding infoboxes. Otherwise, working in a lot of the religion content, I know firsthand just how, well, pathological some editors can get about some subjects about which they are deeply interested, and that probably includes some people on both sides of the discussion about infoboxes. A lot of other religion editors have become less active because of the contentious there, so I really can't blame you for leaving for at least a short time, but I do hope that at least once in a while you check in if you see fit in the future, because I think that there might, hopefully in the not-too-distant future, be some sort of way to reduce the problems involved in a lot of these contentious topics, and, anyway, losing any effective editors is something that I really don't like seeing anywhere, even if some might think that some people like me, with the opinions I expressed above, might be among the reasons you left.

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example, saying something you could say about anyone, for instance saying a composer at his best is a good composer -- that is meaningless but it has a negative connotation, you always look at the best work, not the bad work. Beethoven was pretty uneven, but "respected commentators" don't point that out. So when people make that kind of comment about Meyerbeer I find it not only annoying but worthless. The good thing about Knowledge (XXG) is that it often has much more interesting criticism than the standard things people write. Certain figures like Meyerbeer attract a lot of garbage, found (unfortunately) throughout the "respected commentator" literature, but that doesn't make it any less garbage. You can also learn things from Knowledge (XXG) that no one ever has (to my knowledge) pointed out, for instance there was a discussion about how little Meyerbeer wrote of Africaine, some people apparently think he didn't really write much of the version completed after his death. I don't know whether that's true or not, but it's a very interesting point. Certainly he got the libretto early on, I believe before he even did Prophete, and he was locked in a death struggle with Scribe over the Indian religion scenes Scribe wanted. That's what makes the two comedies interesting -- I personally believe they were the real operas of Meyerbeer's final maturity.

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spirit said clearly: "There is nothing at all in the topic ban that says Andy is banned from the talk page of the FA of the day and the talk pages of any articles nominated or scheduled as FA of the day, nor from any pages in the Knowledge (XXG), Knowledge (XXG) Talk, User, User Talk or indeed anything other than the main article name space. The ban is unhelpful as it's unclear and it allows pretty rubbish interpretations, but as it stands, Andy has violated no part of the topic ban as it stands and will not be blocked (not that he would be blocked assuming he had violated anything, blocks are preventative, not punitive and we would not take action against infractions in April and May when we are now almost into July). I've asked for clarification on the namespace(s) in which the topic ban should apply at WP:AN. Thanks all.". (

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best position to judge) thought he was a revolutionary figure. Moreover, I don't see why this type of statement is obligatory on Meyerbeer but is never found in Mozart or Wagner pages. A professional violinist I know said if Mozart had died 5 years sooner, no one would have ever heard of him. I'm not going to put that on his wikipedia article, even though it's probably a true statement. I know a professional cellist who told me she thought Boccherini was better than Mozart because Mozart stole most of his ideas from Boccherini. (And plenty from Piccini) I'm not putting that on his web page. So leave Meyerbeer alone! He was a great man. Talk about the good things he did, no unverifiable meaningless criticisms please! Everybody has feet of clay. EVERYBODY.

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infoboxes should exist, whether collapsing infoboxes is desirable, whether empty fields should be removed, or a few other related issues swirling about. It has been claimed (I haven't seen the evidence, so I am agnostic) that many fine editors have been drive away because of fights over these issues. However, you claim that if the community reaches a conclusion of best practices, this will drive away good editors. It sounds like failure to do so has already driven away good editors. I find it astounding to contemplate that leaving the answers muddled is somehow better.--

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initial batch of findings, but they rarely write up the complete decision. Attention by other arbitrators is always needed so that missing findings (in this case, one about you, because you're a party to the case) are noticed and written up. If this dispute was dealt with by the community, you may have been sanctioned in a matter of hours, with no process of extended scrutiny or attention (that, certainly, would be degrading to an editor). I promise that even if the finding was put up late, we haven't rushed our work, and you aren't being singled out for mistreatment.

310:"But 1024 isn't divisible by 6!! Or is this part of the whole affair's inexplicability?" Yes. In the column (5-Aug-1977) Rasp signs a document handed to him by a besuited man carrying a briefcase who appears from a chasm in the pitch. The column the following week makes the same indivisibilty point, suggesting that the contract was with ". . . Certain Agencies, which in cases like this usually try to suggest at an early stage that there is no limit to their thaumaturgic powers". 5383: 3951:

illustrate subject, and in future to transfer if possible this to commons. Did You illustrated every work of Chopin? No! Do are there free examples on Knowledge (XXG)? No! According to this link anyone can hear freely his works, and because of license somebody can transfer it to Knowledge (XXG). You want to discuss about "quality" - ok, provide better commons public domain music and illustrate articles(most Chopin have separate page on Knowledge (XXG)).

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story/presentation basing on many articles, and if he isn't a deaf person he would like to attach music. Do he/she would go to Royalty Free paid library or play the sheet on the piano? No if he/she don't have money and piano knowledge would want to listen a music. This is what an external link(if something is not on the commons) is for - to illustrate and fastly redirect to direct illustration of subject...

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this Talk page that you left for a period, and then came back. Very glad you came back! Please focus on the good you are doing here, and don't let the bullies get you down. Please seek support when you need it; kind people need to support each other to keep Knowledge (XXG) pleasant and top-quality. Hope you are doing well, and that your book is faring well also. Cheers,

2975:". I also said about you, Tim: "Tim asked Andy for help with an infobox, asked about his health and greeted him on his return, - if we had more of that attitude the "problem" was solved." - I question the arbitrators' findings on you, David, as on others, they differ from the evidence that I see, and nothing is solved. I would still sign both earlier statements, -- 1429:(ec) You just taught me another new word, thank you! - Do me a favour, look at Andy's recent (!) contributions, for example his comments to the Signpost article. I observe that he came to be politer in time, to both sexes. - You know that I have a history of being against infoboxes (took me about six months to understand), and that I wiki-linked bollocks once? -- 3228:) is indefinitely restricted from: adding or deleting infoboxes; restoring an infobox that has been deleted; or making more than two comments in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. They may participate in wider policy discussions regarding infoboxes with no restriction, and include infoboxes in new articles which they create. 3676:, he was among the leading virtuoso pianists in Paris. His career was marked by his occasional long withdrawals for personal reasons from public performance, and from 1848 he began to adopt a reclusive life style, while continuing with his compositions, virtually all of which are for the keyboard. During this period he published his collections of large-scale 1229:

problem is that today's admin corp come from after, and dont have a full picture. I'm glad to see you taking a stand though. The reflex tactic seems to be intimatition, one article at a time, and when the local editor voices up, the friends swarm in, then "concensus", usually in a classic passive agressive manner. Its not really good enough.

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ordinary steps we expect editors with a few hundred edits to follow. Behavior such as this by editors with tens of thousands of edits deserves community disapproval. However, I do not see that blocks are warranted, and both deserve trouts. Obviously, my position hasn't been supported, but I haven't seen any other proposal gain consensus.

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recording (perhaps you know it) of Piers Lane playing some of the later Moscheles studies, which are quite something - at times, almost Alkanesque. I think it was in writing about these that Moscheles commented 'of course, I do not have the grasp of Liszt - but then, I am not a grasping man.' Best, --

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Second, that the finding of fact against you was written up quite late. Even if you consider a couple of weeks (out of a case lasting several months) to confer lateness, this actually happens quite frequently. In arbitration cases, a 'drafting arbitrator' who does the bulk of the work will present an

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As an editor who has previous worked on this article, I'm seeking your opinion on what you make of the whole chunk of unwikilinked text that's been plonked into the article and everything else removed. does it appear to come from a source stated below, since it doesn't read like something that would

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Sorry to intrude again: "This is a weaselly evasion of the clear spirit of the ruling." is also unbelievable. The spirit of the ruling is not so "clear" for me. The "ruling" was meant to prevent Andy from changing the FA (itself) on the day of TFA and before (nomination and scheduling). Otherwise the

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Opinion yes: to describe the wish not to archive a "fresh" discussion (and install automatic archiving as a means to support objectivity) as "agitate" shows opinion. That Andy was not banned from any talk page is fact. It would be fair to acknowledge that, and would look so much nicer if you also did

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This may just be a function of the unique quality of St. Petersburg light, especially at the moment (when this photo was taken as I recall) when afternoon shades towards evening. I'm no expert photographer (or Photoshopper) so I couldn't have created this effect if I tried! By the way there is a good

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Hi Smerus. Look Andy and his friends are very verbose and will try and grind you down with side issues and questions of character and that, but I hope you can see through it. I realise you are fustrated, but your not alone. This has all been gone through many times over years, but I think part of the

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Hi Smerus, I visited your user page to see if you had published your book (have you? -- EDIT: a quick Google search shows you have; congratulations!), and was surprised to see that you'd deleted the user page and replaced it with a short section. I miss the old user page! I see by edit histories and

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Many thanks for this, just finally had the chance to listen thru. Jazz is largely a blank area for me - was not in my upbringing - so apart from the universally acknowledged greats and a very few others my knowledge is very limited. I had not previously even heard of Petrucciani but am very gratrful

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Smerus, it seems that for you (same as for me), it's the first ArbCom case. Please read the instructions: everybody is confined to their own space making comments. I (sadly) watched enough of them to know that. I will not change, please move your comment. Privately: how come you find Andy aggressive

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You don't seem to understand what I mean when I say unverifiable. No matter how respected someone is, something that is unverifiable and/or meaningless for different reasons should be mercilessly deleted not only from wikipedia but from musicology in general, because it makes us look ridiculous. For

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What Tim Riley and Kleinzach said. This is a sad day. Knowledge (XXG) isn't what it was back in 2006. I thought we were creating an encyclopaedia, not a database for commercial re-users. It used to be an unpaid, volunteer project, but now it seems some editors are making a living from it. Moreover,

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Hi! I noticed your comments in a discussion a while ago on manuscripts from the British Library. I just wrote a piece based on the Alkan string quartet fragent (British Library shelfmark: Hirsch IV.1455, f. 10v) and as I have a typeset version of the fragment I was wondering if you were interested!

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I know that ANI is for behavior not content, so while I think the disagreement between Andy and Nikkimaria is rooted in disagreements about content, I accepted that the ANI thread should concentrate on behavior. Roughly speaking, I think neither party is close to exemplary, both have afield to take

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Richard Wagner (1813–83) was a German composer, theatre director, polemicist, and conductor primarily known for his operas. His compositions, particularly those of his later period, are notable for their complex textures, rich harmonies and orchestration, and the elaborate use of leitmotifs—musical

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Sorry but what would be next - You will delete paintings, because You paint in that style? Yeah Chopin scores are nice, but if You have an article about music - for example main anthem of country - You HAVE music, and nobody discuss the need of it, despite most are Public Domain done only by govt.

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I really don't known what to say about Your strange(very) vision of Knowledge (XXG). You probably are one of two persons 1) Completely deletionist 2) An artist who earn money on his works. In both cases You should stop deleting the content. What is a reason to insert a link in Knowledge (XXG) - to

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Hi Smerus, I agree with you that the Bradbury image can be used on the imaginary opera (and books, for that matter) page as fair use, but I'm not going to go in there with both barrels blazing about it solo. You want to take it on, or let it go? I'm in if you are, but my drama quota is limited...

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The first issue seems to be that you are being sanctioned at all. I don't know if you'd maintain your conduct on infoboxes has been acceptable, but my colleagues and looked at this matter in great detail then decided (in a 9–1 vote) that it hasn't. However, is being directed to stay away from this

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the departure is in some way related to infoboxes, something I personally probably support, because I think a lot of our content might be read by foreign language readers who don't have similar pages in their own languages, and the infoboxes clear up some of the possible translation problems, even

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Hello Smerus, I noticed some time ago that you are in favour of removing notes opposing the addition of infoboxes from articles. However, if those notes get removed, then how do you want to enforce a "discuss the infobox on talk first" rule? Unless a policy/guideline is created, the removal of the

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Why do you call my edits disruptive? I don't believe saying Meyerbeer wasn't inventive in terms of harmony (or music in general) is a verifiable statement. Certainly his contemporaries wouldn't have agreed! And they especially praised his rhythmic sense. Meyerbeer's contemporaries (the ones in the

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Welcome back, I've just added a new quartet article on a work by a Jewish composer you might be interested in. Only thing is that some sources say this is the only quartet he wrote and I've seen another source that gives the number as four. Any help clarifying this would be greatly appreciated as

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Please, if you see fit, at least check in once in a while in the near future. Like I said, I think that maybe, at this point just maybe, there might be possible some way to if not end such arguments, at least compartmentalize them regularly so that they don't remain continuous interruptions. But,

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I posted a suggestion on the article talk page back in April to the effect that as orchestras, Grove, record companies, concert promoters and all comers refer to the piece as "Ein Heldenleben" it would make sense if WP followed suit. Since then no-one has added any comment, pro or con, and I'd be

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I looked now at your "I stand corrected". It doesn't show that "Wikipedian inresidence" is not a paid job. It also doesn't show that Andy didn't breach a ban, because he wasn't banned from a talk page. - What you describe ("aggression", "zealots", "agitate" ...) seems much more what you felt than

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That said, I don't see the problem going away unless we either solve the underlying problem, or get them to agree to stay away from each other, which simply means pretending the problems don't exist. Those two aren't the only ones who disagree about when infoboxes are appropriate, which fields in

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Another point: all these things only exist with good performances. Most performances of obscure works tend not to do them justice. Now when we hear a bad performance of Mozart, we chalk it up to the performers. With Meyerbeer, Auber, Piccinni, Traetta etc etc we blame the music. But music doesn't

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Thanks for removing that piece of nonsense from the Paul Celan article. I remember deleting that "factoid" when I dabbled with the Celan page myself way back in 2007. Someone seems obsessed with re-adding it. As I wrote on the talk page: "'Celan' is simply a reversal of the two syllables in the

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Excellent reading! What a surprise to meet the great names of art in Paris at the time, Bach and the Talmud, good examples of his music, (smiling at "misanthropic and misogynous", to my knowledge there should by a space before an ellipse that doesn't belong to the previous word,) and "he sought

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recital, on October 5, 2010, at Southern Adventist University. Guess it didn't bring the house down. Dubé and Latry play the historical Érard. Prosseda used to play the Borgato and now uses the Pinchi system with various grands. Miklavčič, an organist and harpsichordist from Slovenia which you

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Hi Smerus, I'm not sure we've ever interacted before, but I was extremely sorry to see that you're leaving Knowledge (XXG)--I hope it'll prove to be "for a while" rather than "for good". I owed you the above award, and I still wanted to belatedly post it in recognition of all you've done for

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Thank you. The title was 'Night on Bald Mountain', whereas the text throughout the article (and in the lead sentence) gave,and gives, 'Bare Mountain'. One or other had to go. As the talk page had failed to resolve this in the past, I moved the article to the correct name of the piece and the

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3700:, he devoted much time to a complete new translation of the Bible into French. After his death (which according to a persistent myth was caused by a falling bookcase), his music was neglected, but since the late 1960s many pianists have recorded it and brought it back into the repertoire. ( 5359:, related to my changes of reference style? - I had the idea that you could show best that you don't own Chopin by permitting a 1-month try-out period of an infobox. We debate no end, but don't give the readers a chance to even see what we discuss, - they might supply valuable feedback, -- 2903:

means that you are withdrawing from editing WP. I sympathise (and did the same thing myself for several months last year, driven out by the same bullying (as I saw it)) and I shan't be so insensitive as to urge you to ignore the nastiness and carry on. What I will urge is that if you

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Your interpretation of my entry "No infobox" on the Wagner talk as "demanding an infobox" (as done on arb evidence) is absurd. It's about the opposite, do I have to explain that to the arbs, or will you change your wording? I can't study the rest of your entry now, off for real life.

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You don't want links? Just move the music to Knowledge (XXG) Commons(it have free license) and add as Commons link. Imagine that for example some guy/girl in school have a homework on Chopin - what would he/she do? Probably if it is A-grade would check Internet, write own version of

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Hi Smerus. I see that you commented on the Talk Page, back in March 2013, that: "Two biographers (earlier than the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia) cite him as decended from converted Moravian Jews, and these are now cited as notes in the article.". I wonder which are/were those? Thanks.

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case. This may come as a surprise to you, but I was gutted to hear on the grapevine that you don't intend to stick around if you're sanctioned. I understand you to be annoyed about a couple of issues, which I will try my best to address in this message. I hope you'll hear me out.

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Why is it OK for you to post something subjective, just because it's said by an "authority"? That doesn't make it any less subjective. My so called disruptive editing was trying to get rid of gratuitous subjective comments that were disparaging to the subjects of the article.

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Apologies TQ, I now understand the intent of your contribution which initially mystified me - I am not too awake this morning, too much travelling. The hysteria was the bizarre comment of Melodia. But Gerda, what on earth are you going on about? You are giving me cause for

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As I haven't looked at the original myself (a friend who works there typeset the manuscript to begin with) I am not sure if I have the whole thing (I have the first six measures - but is it the whole thing?) but I can send that over if you are interested! Let me know! :) ¬

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Gerda, my apologies, but we have to differ here, I am afraid. He was not banned by the letter, but he was in my opinion clearly banned by the spirit of the ruling and he was intelligent enough to realise that, and to know that he was crossing the line when he behaved as he

3605:, just in case the AfD goes the wrong direction. Not saying it's an ideal solution, but threw it in the mix to see if others are going to act in good faith or just dig in. Probably should have run this past you, but decided to just BB and do it. No worries either way. 100:

on May 22, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director

668:. Please take some time to read the Knowledge (XXG) standards which are referred to in the comments by myself and others on your talk page. If of course you decide that these standards are not for you, there is no compulsion for you to continue editing Knowledge (XXG). 4375:

or contribution to its description is noted, and thanks (even if belatedly) for your contribution. In order to help make better use of the media, an attempt has been made by an automated process to identify and add certain information to the media's description page.

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FWIW - Thank you for your comments on the several articles we've worked on together - your comments were *greatly* appreciated - hope you return soon (assuming you're really departing Knowledge (XXG) for now of course) - in any case - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :)

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I've reverted the lot, as it was filched from an edition of the Dictionary of National Biography. If the present arb case on Infoboxes succeeds in preventing idiots like the above two from persecuting me and wasting my time, I will try to improve the article. Best,

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Alas for you, the nature of Knowledge (XXG) is that it seeks to rule out the subjective. That is one of the rules of the club, if you want to play along. I disagree with a lot of stuff that is up there but that is just my opinion, and editors' own opinions count as

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and are inelgible. You just have to live with it - or live without it. As long as you put up your own opinons without citations, expect to have them reverted, and/or expect some editor to seek to exclude you permanently. Again, I urge you to read the rules. Best,

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I don't know if I've missed anything out. If I have, feel free to point it out, and I'll try to explain my position if you wish me to do so. Otherwise, I wish you the very best, whether you remain a Knowledge (XXG) contributor or move on to other hobbies. Yours,

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rule. I had not previously witnessed such apparent opposition to an edit, so I was not aware of it. We all learn from our experiences. I have added a reply to your comment on the Wagner talk page, but will now broadly support your rationale. Thank you again

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on November 30, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask

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2) As I tried to explain to you on your own talk page, what you or I think is not of interest to Knowledge (XXG). It is interested in reporting sourced material from respected commentators (whether or not you or I as individuals respect them). See

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Your voice was hatted on AN/I, I think because the closing admin didnt know the context or was so focused on the rules, he lost sight. This is an old story, and is a considerable source of stress to a great many people who have stood up.

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phrases associated with individual characters, places, ideas or plot elements. These innovations greatly influenced the development of classical music; his Tristan und Isolde is sometimes described as marking the start of modern music.

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Welcome back, Smerus! We need editors like you around here. Don't let abusive behaviors get to you. I just got back from a two-month semi-retirement as well because of stress and feeling exhausted in general. Once again, welcome back.

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Thanks Gerda - as you say, I am a newcomer to this world. I will move my comment. Maybe Andy is politer to ladies than he is to his own sex? As you see, I am not the only one on this thread to have found his style unpleasant. Best,

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The Arbitration Committee recommends that a well-publicized community discussion be held to address whether to adopt a policy or guideline addressing what factors should weigh in favor of or against including an infobox in a given

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Will do. I have in the last hour cleared my decks of promised reviews at GAN and FAC, and so will be pleased to give old Alkan a review. I know next to nothing about him except for his macabre end, and shall enjoy learning more.

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Oh I'm certain you'll have it at FA long before then. It already looks like an FA candidate as Tim said! I'd be happy to help you promote it. My favourite pianist is Chopin but I also like Liszt and Alkan among others! ♦

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What Tim Riley, Kleinzach, Kudpung, Eusebius, and Folantin said. Even if you never contribute again, Smerus, you will always be one of our finest editors. Your contribution to Knowledge (XXG) is enormous and enduring.

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They're both cited in note 2 to the article, so can be left there unless anyone has a source indicating the contrary. The anon editor(s) can be safely ignored in these circumstances unless they delete article content.

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could give Knowledge (XXG) contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Knowledge (XXG) itself. Please note that making such threats on Knowledge (XXG) is

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tagged the above edit "are you an antisemite?" (see page history). As they can see I have tried painstakingly asking this editor to read and understand the Knowledge (XXG) norms, but would he listen? He would not.

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Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread about solid content writers who don't get the credit they deserve and I just wanted to drop by and do a little of that. Thanks for your work on behalf of The Project!

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Yes, it's quite funny you mention that concert - it's part-organised by a good friend who also commissioned me to write a piece for it, so actually my (newly finished) composition will be part of that concert :)

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Yes, this makes sense! I find it difficult to understand the (supposed) sensitivity about Jew-hatred/antisemitism in categories; if it's properly sourced in the article, it's a perfectly acceptable descriptor.--

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Found that the IMSLP copy of the score dates from 1969, I have a sneaking suspicion that the tempo markings have been altered, but without access to an earlier version of the score proving that is going to be

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All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in

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Four composers are mentioned in one sentence, only two of whom are linked. (All were linked earlier in the article.) In my opinion they should either all be linked or none of them should be linked in this

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Those who pointed made the same mistake. True, I would have liked an infobox but, also true, I saw no chance with the current - how I should I call them? I am working on evidence that deserves the name ;)

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Romanian spelling ('Ancel') of his German name ('Antschel'). Both versions sound something like 'An-chel' in English. He removed the T, the S and the H because they aren't needed in Romanian." Cheers. --

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How curious. It's almost like a still from some 50s Hollywood dream sequence! Great to hear the Rondo from Moscheles' "Piano Concerto No 4 in E major" on the radio this morning. Sounded to me a bit like

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Hi David, I'm sorry that you are joining the mass of content writer's who have been driven away from Knowledge (XXG) by the obnoxious community and it's quasi-police and quasi-judiciary. In view of my

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It seemed much more related to your personal general thinking, which I at times have trouble to understand, than any specific article. I drop the question. Congratulations to your FA, well deserved! --

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An arbitration case regarding behaviour around the use of Infoboxes in several articles has now closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

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Am I right that "useless items of decor", as mentioned on Fatinitza, refers to infoboxes? If that's what they are, why do you fight them? Among other things, they ARE decorative, why not keep that? --

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You see, Gerda, what is clear is that on some matters we have very different opinions. That's life. If you disagree withwhat I say, you are free to argue it in the arb discussion. I won't complain.--

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notes will probably lead to the mass addition of infoboxes to articles, since infoboxes routinely get added to articles without edit summaries (see for instance the recent editing history of the FA

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Hey you forgot to let me know, I thought we supposed to be working on Chopin together! Last I heard you were busy. Can you give me a shot at it before taking to FAC? Congrats on the GA anyway!♦

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Sort of saved by the ArbCom tie vote - but the actual "finding of fact" still shows a remarkable series of "unfortunate events" for that body, for which solutions well ought be found. Cheers.

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I am not going about something, I just didn't know until yesterday that GFHandel was not the only victim of the the so-called Wagner affair, and wondered if you knew sooner. Discovered today: "

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exist without the performer. Check out my two le philtre excerpts on my youtube channel to see if you don't hear the difference between the tenor and soprano there and most of today's singers.

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Thanks for your response on the talk page of the article Richard Wagner. As per your suggestion on the talk page, I am adding the text quoting Howard Goodall on Wagner music in the article

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Thank you for quality articles, based on scientific background and a life in Europe, with a passion for music shown in playing instruments and organising a music festival, crowned by

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It's my own photo! Possibly sightly touched up on Picasa, I can't remember. Took it when working in St. Petersburg, in the next street actually. The building is now a school. Best --

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Knowledge (XXG)'s readers. I hope we'll see you back again here someday, but either way, thanks for your lasting contributions, which are literally serving millions of readers. --

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in their greatest extremes... something of a trick' etc. However you have already put in several descriptions, and rather than distorting your article by adding it myself, and as

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Merry Christmas! I gather you are working on Chopin after all. I will begin working on it soon, although don't want to cause edit conflicts! We will get him up to FA eventually!♦

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Also, I never really apologized for the snarky comment in the nomination. So, allow me to do so now - I'm sorry, I know you created these categories in good faith. I apologize.--

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You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at

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thinking of "departing" you will come back when you're good and ready. Please! We need you. Very happy indeed to be told I've leapt to the wrong conclusion here. Best wishes.

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Hi Semerus. Is that really a photo? It looks so much like a picture from a book! I wonder, did you give it some kind of "radical treatment" to produce this result? Regards.

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Looking forward to your strong credit, - but the opening is so "unbelievable" in the true sense of the word, - how will the arbs believe the rest of it? Happy listening! --

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Thank you for that one, my 99th nomination. (I wonder why the credit arrived much later than mine, but it probably doesn't matter.) Enjoy your trip and keep playing ;) --

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Another top-notch contributor leaves the project! Smerus and his contributions will be much missed. A learned and wise editor – why do we allow them to be driven away?

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if I could get something similar to the Bach composition infobox to de. The one who asked (and had made a navbox for the cantatas) had no idea that I designed it ;) --

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Public domain music of Frederic Chopin. Funded by Kickstarter project of Musopen, which raised $ 92,452 of $ 75,000 goal during 45 days(Sep 5, 2013 - Oct 20, 2013).

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Dear Smerus, I echo everything Tim says above - I hope this is merely temporary and that you will be back soon. If you have indeed gone, you will be sorely missed.

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I am not sure if I'll review it (I am not an expert on music), but at least in my role as a Polish-history-topics reviewer, I'll offer some comments. I started at

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What about it? More specifically, why a thread on my talkpage about it? There is enough clutter here altready without samples of the hysteria of third parties.--

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Dear Smerus, I feel sure you must be familiar with the comments of William Hazlitt on Braham's style of delivery, which I have just read for the first time...

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Thnaks for this kind posting! I am back on a rather smaller scale. The book gets good comments and reviews, but not enough alas for me to retire on. Best, --

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and will be posting a stub article on this as soon as I've got the score sorted out. If you are interested in adding to it at some point please let me know.

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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Thanks for this. Can't really be bothered to piddle around with this as I am in Kiev and all sorts of exciting things (real drama) happening round here.

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If there are no opinions allowed, then it shouldn't matter who has those opinions; I would respect that. But that's apparently not the way it works.

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Do you see that the quotes come from two admins, not me? Andy did not breach his topic ban, period. No different views of that fact are possible. --

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Can I interest you (Smerus, after the last GA review for me, and all) in my first for peer review, linked under the first word on my user page? --

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it will be hypocritical of me to try to make you change your mind. Do feel free to notify me by email if you are giving a talk again in London.--

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I was about to do it, but you beat me to it, thanks. I think it's missing the QPQ (a review of another nomination); otherwise it's ready. --

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difficult and intense dispute really worth sacrificing all you have to offer the encyclopedia? I really hope you'll decide it isn't.

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at Levoca a couple of years ago. The page turner by the way is Morgan Hayes, another good composer (without a WP article .... yet).--

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Honestly, I don't know that I've ever met you, but I noticed discussion elsewhere about your leaving, and really hate seeing it.

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Nice; thank you for stubbing all those Chopin-related bios. This one ~30 words short of start class and thus being eligible for

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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Alkan was covered by an long article in the FAZ on 27 December, probably nothing in it you don't know, but good to know:

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Delighted and relieved to see you in diesen heil'gen Hallen! Please drop in again and again and again! We need you, sir!

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So you did not know that I listened to Götterdämmerung from Bayreuth yesterday. Hysteria? Sorry, I don't understand ;) --

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I have taken the liberty of deleting the bot messages purporting to come from me, and replacing them with my own words,

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do the DYK nomination as I am now travelling over the next 36 hours and the timing is almost up for nominating? Best, --

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are the man for John Braham, I just thought I'd suggest it to you. Every good wish for the season and New Year. yours

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in all the major keys (Op. 35) and all the minor keys (Op. 39). The latter includes his Symphony for Piano Solo and

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Good idea and well done. I added a note on the "Talk" page regard what has happened. Thanks, John in Santa Fe aka:

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Sigh, congratulations on re-adding unreferenced material to the article, while violating our MOS in the process!

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I am also very pleased to see you are editing again (and thanks for quoting me on your user page). Welcome back,

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origins is displayed both in his life and his work. He was the first composer to incorporate Jewish melodies in

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genuine content editors are being replaced by editors obsessed with "bells and whistles" like disinfoboxes. --

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I'll upload the original to IMSLP/Petrucci soon and I'll send you a link, I just need to touch it up a bit. ¬

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has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath

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I expect Smerus will return. He's too good an editor to leave permanently. I think he just needed a break. --

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Thank you for your help with this. It's my first new article in a while, so it's great to get a little help.

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Afterthought: I hope you're not in Kiev at the moment, or are safely away from the action if you are there.

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Sincerest congratulations! I take my earlier comment back (that he might not get it before his 200th). :-)

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On the other hand, I have given you strong credit for your positive contributions - Now just listening to

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Don't think I understand your question, but in any case doesn't it belong on the Rigoletto talk page?--

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Also a discussion started here, if you're interested, on placement of bios in anti-semitic categories.

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again, and (ii) the Chopin is a fine article, which I enjoyed greatly and learnt a lot from. Bravo! –

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That stuff IS amazing, and nothing like real life drama to help us all keep things in perspective!

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sentiments. The effect of his ideas can be traced in many of the arts throughout the 20th century. (

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I have been researching this mythical work, and the results of my efforts are now at peer review,

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Welcome back. I don't know how active you intend to be for the moment, but Tippett is at FAC,

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is giving the first ever performance later this year of the 6 hour "Piano Symphony no. 6".--

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particularly brilliant. I must admit that I know next to nothing about that famous brand of

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You reverted two edits I made on the Frédéric Chopin article, citing overlinking. However:

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JEAN DUBÉ Oeuvres originales pour piano-pédalier de Alkan, Dubois, Franck, Liszt, Schumann

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I adumbrate, for the amusement and edification of my many friends and enemies on WP, that

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the most common English name to another name without seeking consensus on the talk page?

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to celebrate 200 years, a life of drama, for progress, without compromise, - you are an

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I'm not sure whether to reply here or on my page? I presume here you will get notified.

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Thank you. Don't try to hard to believe, sure you deserve. I saw the pictured Chereau

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OLIVIER LATRY Piano Pédalier Oliver Latry Plays Alkan, Boëly, Brahms, Liszt, Schumann

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1) Please respond on editors' talk pages, not their main pages, to avoid disruption.

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and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

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to relax the ban he had placed on performance of his music, including the four-hour

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whatever you do, best of luck with everything and thanks for all you've done here.

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interested, if you have a few minutes, to see what you think about the suggestion.

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There are few things that can't be fixed by a dose of calmness and reasoned debate.

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Please add your evidence by July 31, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes.

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I like to see Chopin on my watchlist, music on my mind! Have boldly nominated

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be written today. Regardless, it may be copyright material. Any thoughts?

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Hi Smerus. I'm the arbitrator who proposed the remedies against you in the

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translation" specification, which you removed, was a subject of debate).--

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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --

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I'm going to go ahead and add you to the "parties" of the infobox RFAR. —

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Happy Holidays and best wishes for a happy, healthy and productive 2014!

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Please read Talk, History before applying changes to article. Thanks! ("

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GFHandel left during the Bach infobox discussion, not the Wagner one.

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Not sure if you like jazz but I'm heavily into it, love the pianists

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redirects will take both bald and bare users to the article. Best, --

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Ah, Gerda - 'Ceci n'est pas une pipe', as others have pointed out.--

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Many thanks - now noted in article (and in Alkan Society website).--

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Greetings. Two recordings of Alkan works performed on the pédalier:

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Music article without music?! Your vision of Knowledge (XXG) is ...

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for demonstrators at the remains of Lenin's statue today). Best, --

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It could be construed that someone is evading an ANI community ban

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Wishing you all the best for 2014, and its great to see you back.

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Ask questions relating to articles on their talkpages, not here.--

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Happy Holidays, Smerus, and a very happy music-filled new year!

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I have anyway placed a warning on his talk page for vandalism.--

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broadcasts one of his pieces every Saturday throughout 2013, --

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would any information on the details of the first performance.

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Many thanks Gerda for your assistance in getting this here.--

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A wonderful life. I really enjoyed reading this, thank you.

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mentioned, plays the Borgato if I recall correctly. Cheers,

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that was claimed to facilitate hair regrowth for bald men?

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of Verdi's masterpiece would be most gratefully received.

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Knowledge (XXG):Today's featured article/November 30, 2013

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It seems to be an old designation, rather than a new one:

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synthesising the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts

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Thanks. I have replied to his Talk Page comments anyway.

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