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729: 814:. The usage of a club's emblem for its official departments is something very common and standard for the wikipedia pages. I really can't undestand how using this image for particular departments violates the non-free image policy, while using it for others doesn't. It really doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And even if it does violate the above-mentioned policy for some inexplicable reason, what really matters is what can we do to address and solve this issue. So, I defer to your expertise and in case you can't do anything I will post to the Knowledge:Media copyright questions as you suggested me. Thanking you in advance, 722: 1903: 31: 932: 315: 747:! On this day, we recognize our fellow countrymen who have fought our nation's battles for the past several hundred years, protecting our freedom and safety. We remember those who paid the ultimate price and we support those who continue to willingly sacrifice their safety for the sake of their country. Happy Memorial Day! 1480:
You are correct there is a large issue with non-free media being miss-used. That is why I am trying to help others get informed about it. Lets take each file one at a time, feel free to comment inline. Can you explain why you must include these images and a link to the main article isnt sufficient?
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adding a NFC warning, you also made a number of minor punctuation changes to the user's talk ;page. The first of those changes replaced "&#123" with "{" at the start of a "helpme", but the "&123" was there for a reason, to deactivate the "helpme", and the effect of your change was to activate
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Thanks. Also, I'm no expert but I read a biography of Wollstonecraft once where the author described the Opie portrait as of a "possibly" pregnant Wollstonecraft. The alt text you are inserting uses "a slightly pregnant woman". Unless there is a source asserting it was painted while she was pregnant,
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I'm not sure if you had read my homepage, but my template was always going to go, I just had not changed it yet, unfortunately you failed to add my taskbar, If you'd like me to keep it this way until I get round to dealing with it, please add my taskbar to my page, otherwise I will need to revert it
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Why did you remove the images (and as I can see, many complain about this)? I only used the images already uploaded in the Commons and used in other articles in wikipedia. If there is, indeed, a copyright problem, then you should also remove them from the respective articles for SYRIZA, DIMAR, KKE,
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When I first read points 3, 8 and 10c, I thought that I could easily do it myself, but then I read about the tables ... I am trying to remove that part of the table with the symbols but I am doing sth wrong and it doesn't look right in the preview. Would you be kind enough to do it for me (after
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Not sure which of use your are referring to, but to put this in some context, the page I was referring to was in the user's userspace and not an article, per ] Non-free files can only be used in articles. Since the non-article was using non-free files I removed the said file per policy.
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You did not put the flag image deletions up for discussion. You acted unilaterally. Knowledge is an encyclopedia by concensus, not disctatorship. Therefore, unless you can inform me IN CLEAR ENGLISH why you had those flag images pulled, I will feel obliged to restore the images.
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There are three lines of text that support those non-free files, one reference and one citation needed. You are attempting to use that very little amount of primarily unsourced commentary to justify 8 files. There just isnt enough there to meet the bar required per
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and add the talk page to CAT:HELP. I don't know if this was a side-effect of some automatic system like AWB, but I suggest that, even apart from unwanted effects like this, it is better not to tinker with pre-existing sections of people's talk-pages. Regards,
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Thank you, Werieth. Where am I supposed to provide that rationale -- on the talk page of the article, in the edit summary, or in the File of the image itself? In every Image File I look, I only see the initial upload rationale, licensing info, and the
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I really don't understand how using Olympiacos emblem in two official Olympiacos departments fails the non-free image policy. This particular image that you removed is used in all Olympiacos' departments such as
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however mediawiki was still seeing it as being used there, I guess a forcelinks purge would have done the same thing, however I already had AWB up removing other stuff it was just easier for me to hit save.
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and the rest of the ten factors -- frankly, I believe 90% of the current images in our Knowledge articles do not meet that 10-prong test. But rules are rules, so here goes. Here is the list of images from
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If my understanding is incorrect, I would welcome your comments on this. If you do not respond, I will contact other editors who might help to clarify this point. Thank you for your time and assistance.
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I really think you are taking a too literal interpretation of this. It's never been enforced in the past and I've never seen it mentioned until you personally enforced it across the project yourself.—
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to the Teahouse guests page. Your edit summary says that you removed an NFCC#9 violation, yet the diff says that you only removed a couple underscores from the filename (ie you only changed
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which requires at least one use). Beyond that whomever adds the file to an article must create their own rationale that explains why the given article must have the specified file.
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Im not following anyone around, I just noticed that your page wasnt in compliance, removed the files, and saw you re-inserted the files against policy and then warned you.
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from articles and add a substituted deletion tag to the image without stating a deletion reason, and remove the non-free use rationales from the image in the same edit? --
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Slow day? Or do you get a real kick out of pissing me off? Those flag submissions I took pains to ensure that they were 'kosher', yet you still knocked them off. —
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Can you please tell me then why if that is the case, then there is a section in the file submission that allows one to give the reasons for adding a non-free...
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For all of them, I would say that they illustrate the specific material in the article. Each image (including every ballplayer) corresponds exactly to the text.
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If you can get me a list of files we can review their usage here, before creating rationales for their usage. As each file you add needs to meet
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Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its
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Please tell me if there is a reason how do these images, (CPFC article), violate WP:NFCC? NFCC certainly does not as you put it 'forbids this'.
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EDIT: In addition, they are significant to inform the reader of the previous logos of the club, what they looked like and when they were used.
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of file usage. I don't see any individual rationales, other than the original upload rationale. So...where do we provide this rationale info?
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to the subject matter that they accompany. Your editorial comment is that they are "missing a free use rationale for the article."
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photo upload into Knowledge. Once it is uploaded, the photos can be used by editors whenever it is appropriate. The editor of an
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Where have you filed this request? I would like to be able to defend myself and show the third parties the relevant policies.
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as the files used on those two pages are unique to those two events as well as the whole so you can stop leaving me messages.—
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I tagged it by hand, and thought it should have been subst'ed. I also could have sworn I did include a reason when tagged.
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Perhaps you can explain this for me. My understanding is that free use rationale applies to the acceptance of the
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Would you mind checking the recent series of AWB edits and correcting any others that contain that broken link? --
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Ok, but what was the purpose of substituting the deletion tag? Why did you not state a deletion reason using the
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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited
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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on
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Give me a specific instance instead of just instructing me to go and look at a particular page's history.—
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It is my duty to inform you that I have lodged a complaint with Knowledge against you for your actions. —
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In addition, my use of the photos is specific, precise, and appropriate to the exact subject matter.
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temporarily in order to navigate my pages & I do not have time to go through my code, thank you.
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Let me guess, your going to be the one who follows me around saying everything I've done is wrong.
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be used where it is being used. The uploader is only required to justify the initial usage (See
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all, you did fix the footnotes to make them look nice - forgot to say thanks for that: Thanks)?
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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Knowledge. Your edits appear to constitute
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This information cannot be conveyed any other way therefor the images do not breach policy...
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requires its use to be justified and kept to a minimum. Each use must be in compliance with
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Already, you're wrong. If that was true, every article on here would have files removed.
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The Wollstonecraft image file you are replacing the existing file with isn't working.
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etc. Unless I hear an explantion from you within 24 hours, I will undo your changes.
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It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these
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Hello Werieth, I don't understand why you keep removing the image from the userbox
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The reason given must still meet the requirements of our non-free content policy.
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Its fairly clear policy, and it has been enforced, take a look at the history of
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Sorry about that not sure what happened, Ive reverted all of those changes.
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The purpose of use was listed as "illustration" which isnt a valid reason.
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Knowledge:Non-free_content_review/Archive_17#File:SouthAlabamaJaguars.jpg
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is the logo of the Puerto Rican winter baseball league, known as the
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and some of the files you added in the past just dont meet that bar.
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Why do you need the logo, cant a link to the organization suffice?
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by modifying 1 "()"s and 2 "{}"s. If you have, don't worry, just
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They are anything but "Kosher", They are in clear violation of
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Thanks for taking a look, Werieth. I know this takes valuable
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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the
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All of them accompany a parallel discussion in the text of
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Fixed those too, not sure how I missed them the first fix.
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is not obliged to provide a free use rationale. Only the
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omission would be detrimental to that understanding
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More fair-use images being reported as non fair-use
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Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft
Analytical Review
Thoughts on the Education of Daughters
Joseph Johnson (publisher)
Mary: A Fiction
Original Stories from Real Life
A Vindication of the Rights of Men
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