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ask something like "How can You be sure of thisĀ ?" or whatever. I think that an information page just for plasible or possible donators may be of help. Please don't take this as me being lazy. I just know that in Sweden , peple often want to see things at paper whatever a sales man ever is saying. I can take myself as an example - a female sales man phoned me about an offer that sounder fair and OK. (It was someting about digital cable-television) And they usually do tape the calls. But I said approx. "It sounds OK, but I always want to read the small letters before I can agree to Your offer", and asked her to mail me the entire contract physically. But this she "couldn't do" (probably due to her pay-check is depending entirelly on the number of contracts she sells by phone only), and I told her "that's the only way" but she still "coul not do that". So I'm still using analogue cable-TV. I only say that an informational page for possible photo donators could make a difference. All the best
3108:. In a lot of cases including 1 sample for an album (a total of 2 non-free media) isn't going to be challenged that often. In this case there where 4 samples being used, We have 4 samples, album cover, and TV promo which is three times that of a normal album. Given that there really isn't anything particularly different about this one, the extra justification for including the extra media isn't there. Given the one sample has its own article removing it from this one article isn't that big of a deal. As for the other sample, the article just doesn't have enough to support it. As for the TV promo nothing in the image that is being displayed is discussed. Yes the TV special happened but we don't need to include a picture to establish that. Given we have text and sources what else does that TV image provide other than evidence that the special happened?
2690:. The whole point of me uploading those 2 pictures under "Production" was to help people understand how the production was accomplished. By showing the actors in the monster suits and the filming of the Octopus sequence. This was done to showcase how this film was made showing two separate effects techniques something that transcends a basic description in text. This is why I didn't use a stock shoot or a simple still from the film but rather behind the scenes shots of its production. The comicbook cover was to help people understand an example of how this film had a legacy and the American poster was to show the poster art for the American version of the film which is more prevalent in the English language speaking world than the Japanese poster. It doesn't fail
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even think are absurd, are normal to them, and they get so deep entrenched into that bureaucracy that they totally loose touch with how other people not entrenched in it see things. There are 100s of rules on this thing and most people who contribute learn as they go and don't have time to read them all. In future it would serve the mission you claim to care about far better to fire out a quick explanation when you pull someones work instead of saying nothing, leaving them with no idea what was going on, then threatening them when they failed to read your mind. I've seen this happen a lot since I started contributing it turns people off in a huge way and makes the wider public loose respect for the project.
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archive.is link as part of the vandalism) Revision 2. User B makes an innocent typo fix without catching the vandalism (Revision 3). User C sees vandalism and tries to restore revision 1, but cant due to the archive.is spam. User C then must manually look for and remove all links to archive.is before the vandalism in Foo can be removed. During that window who knows what kind of vandalism may be present. Also if you continue to be obnoxious on my talk page, use that type of language and persist in your harassment Ill just ban you from my talk page.
932:. It seems that you have an interest in preventing linkrot - thanks for that; it takes a lot of time and care to do that sort of work. I have a question though -- I am wondering why you tagged pretty much every New York Times citation with "dead link". I checked each one of them, and they are not dead, so I removed the tag. Can you please explain why you tagged them as dead? I cite the NY Times a lot, since it is a paper of record, and I have not heard of problems with citations to it before. Thanks!
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another, my intent was to work within the rules. If you are going to level over the top threats at people who spend hours contributing because they make a single mistake, then explain your reasoning first in plain english to them. 4 letters beside the line in the edit is not much of an explanation to someone new to the project, you have to look at things from the perspective of someone who does not already know everything. If you had typed out a quick explanation on the talk page
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done in secrecy, if I recall correctly there was even a watchlist notice about it. Sites that ignore robots.txt are nasty. Ive often seen reports of spiders and other crawlers which failed to abide by good internet practices causing serious disruptions to sites. Just because you are unaware of the bigger issues doesnt mean that they dont exist. To get to the point where you cannot add archive.is URLs isnt something that happens easily.
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more time replying to me than fixing the damage you caused, instead focusing on just spreading the damage in spite of hte protests of several editors. Then you have the bare-faced cheek to call the warning you received invalid, kind of like the thug the cops are holding down exclaiming he has done nothing wrong. Fix the articles you have broken, or I shall assume you have forgotten and remind you as needed.
1138:. Do not remove them unless you replace them. I hope you can see that this is a fair statement and a compromise. I like the improvements you made to Tintin (character), creating new archives using webarchive. I suppose someday I will re-archive all the links in The Adventures of Tintin using webarchive. But until then, please revert your edits to both articles, keeping the improvements you made. Thanks.
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no free media alternatives. They were shrunk down or degraded to make sure they don't violate the commercialbility of the pictures. They give visual representations of the production so people can understand how the film was made better than simple text. They have been published before by the copyright holders. The copyright holders are stated in the fair use rationale. What exactly is the problem?
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second sample can be justified as its the album's lead single and title track, which is also critically discussed and important to the article. It's also used on its own page but it still meets the criteria for usage on this one as well. The image is a logo for a televised special for the album which is thoroughly discussed in the
Promotion section. The guidelines state logos are acceptable NFC.
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understandable, however I've seen many articles use audio samples of singles with their own pages on the album pages as well without any removal, which is why I was questioning it in this particular case. It was also critically discussed and part of the album's overall subject matter. I don't dislike the policy but am just questioning the reasoning since they all seem to fit the guidelines.
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sentences there don't seem to fall short of the criteria (one describing its production and the other its lyrics), but I was asking your advice on it. For the other sample, I understand it has its own article and that's fine. I only questioned it since there are numerous album articles which include samples of songs with their own pages that don't get removed, such as
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3855:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see
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changed to the single-space " ". Both of these "housekeeping" changes are not true contributions to the article in my opinion; it just raises eyebrows; I try to never make that kind of null change to an article (i.e., when using AWB) as people just contact me asking me why I thought it was necessary. I see all this has been done to the
372:'s exemptions for NFCC. I am giving you a friendly caution as a fellow NFC tracker to prevent someone else taking this to 3RR or ANI. (Yes, the reverting editor too will be cautioned if they revert too, but I'm very aware that others have taken you to ANI before several times and you may be blocked if they take it there again). --
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then I'd not have reverted, but instead you yanked them without saying anything. I've seen it happen to people in bureaucracy before, and
Wikipedias just an electronic bureaucracy in many ways, where they become so ingrained in it that the rules that don't make sense to outsiders, that some outsiders
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What do you mean by critical commentary exactly? When I uploaded those pictures years ago I asked around to make sure they were valid and even had help by other administrators when it came to how to tag the pictures. I was assured they were OK and don't violate any of the policy guidelines. There are
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I can understand your reluctance to visit them, and personally, I do know that their addition is now blocked; but please bear in mind that many of us are completely unaware of discussions about unacceptable archives. Where you do have to leave content newly unsourced, please would you tag it as such,
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I just noticed that most of the links where not actually being used in references (which was the only place I was looking for replacements) Ive gone ahead and re-checked for any usage of a cite template not in a reference and filled those in. I dont know of any bulk tools for requesting archive but I
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Just because you cannot understand the issues, and dont care to try, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. One prime example where archive.is links make reverting vandalism difficult is where Page Foo is stable at revision 1 user A vandalizes the page and in the process adds something obscene (removing a
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Actually archive.is is an abusive site that violates copyright, has used unapproved bots, countless sockpuppets and a history of abusive behavior to force links to their site into en.wikipedia. Removing abusive content improves the article, as a dead link is better than an abusive link. The RfC wasnt
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Archive.is is blocked because an RFC was conducted in relative secrecy, not because the site is flawed. Archive.org respects robots.txt and abandons snapshots if website policies change and it doesn't archive PDFs, webcite was on the verge of shutting down in recent memory. You did not finish the job
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Thanks. (You were quick indeed, I noticed some horrible spelling errors. And was about save corrections. When wrighting articles I always use a dictionary, but not always at talk pages) But I assume You got my general idea, anyway. They way a discussion is taking, is of cource not possible to know in
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The special is notable to the album's promotion, and is the main critical focus of the promotion section. Shouldn't that warrant its inclusion? There are two sentences for the song regarding the audio sample, what else do you think it would need to be included? For the other sample, I suppose that's
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I'd further remind you that when you deleted them the first time you left no explanation on the talk page why, so for all I knew someone was messing around pulling them when I posted them. I had absolutely no idea I'd broken the rules. Common sense told me if they were ok on one page they're ok on
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Its far more effective to explain things to people than to use automated stencils composed of legalese and then threaten them. I just took a page that was a total and absolute mess some thought should be a candidate for deletion and turned it around completely spending hours working on it, and made
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Same license this one is under. It wasn't a problem, because all stations are part of the same network, umbrella'd under West
Virginia Public Broadcasting. Also, because, if memory serves, someone had uploaded the image 11 times....one for each page. Wasn't a problem then, won't be a problem now.
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The outcome of the RfC is removal of those links, you may not like the outcome but you need to abide by it. Calling my actions spam is a personal attack. I am not promoting anything. I am using a know, stable, and dependable archiving service which is already in widespread usage. I just looked a few
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Actually using abuse language borderline NPA. After a user has removed something from their talk page you cannot edit war to keep it there, I have every right to remove invalid warnings which that was. Per the RfC all links need removed. Existing links can be problematic depending on what happens to
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Also, the shoulder board insignia used do not seem to have been created by the crown. This is the same with all the other rank insignia displayed on
Knowledge for the Canadian Forces. Therefore, would it not make sense to have the Canadian flag officer shoulder boards appear on Knowledge, or, beause
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Really? As I said, I heard that I had unfortunately made the wrong choice of archive mechanism on about one hundred archives in these articles last
December, but can no one point me to the consensus of the powers-that-be of Knowledge that explains that, above all, they must be removed? I would think
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I cant see what license the previous logo was under, but if it was below ToO and wasnt copyrightable this wouldnt be an issue. Since the file is non-free that is where the issue is. In this case linking to the primary entity and noting that they have the same logo is enough, we dont need to display
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If it was just a substandard link I wouldn't be removing it. These links where added and created after the site died, we have zero credibility that they actually contain the original material. These where added by two spammers late last year that slipped through the cracks. Due to the fact that the
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Hello again and sorry to bother You this soon again. I hope You did accept my appology of the word combination "Bertil
Persson, old photographer and insult" it just became an unlucky formulation. But I've been thinking of the "sales man"-issue and persuation. It just hit me, that the archivists may
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For the first sample, it includes two sentences of commentary regarding it. That's why I questioned what else would be necessary to include the sample, since I've seen other articles using up to four audio samples without removal, each with only one or two sentences of commentary per song. The two
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Normally when someone removes material citing a policy you dont re-add it unless you understand the policy. In this case I had to remove it multiple times. Since you obviously where not getting the point I had to do something that would make you get the point. Honestly in regards to non-free media
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Mass-addition of links to replace an opposing set of links is SPAM, you can dress it up as you want. It's vandalism, as is removing archives outright and not replacing them and changing all the date formats in violation of MOS NUM, you've improved those articles in a negative way AND left work for
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I dont have links to the discussions at hand, I dont know if it was true then or is still true, given the abusive nature of how these links where added it doesnt make that much of a difference. It just means I dont want to click the links. As for
Archive.org having malware, virustotal is mistaken.
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No they can't be problematic. You have no idea about anything related to this, the only problem is putting them back once some lazy editor does a drive-by edit that leaves a bunch of references without an archive. Until that happens, there is no issue editing or reverting the article. You've spent
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I see. My final comment is to quote a statement made in that decision: "To those removing
Archive.is from articles, please be sure to make very clear A) why the community made this decision and B) what alternatives are available to them to deal with rotlink." Your edit summary was non-existent. I
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Completely agree the editor is ready to ignore NFC policies, but there is still the fact that there's no "obvious" NFC violations that would fall under 3RR, and others that have been critical of your NFC enforcing before would likely jump at this opportunity. I will warn them right now that NFC is
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mistake. One mistake. The author does not care (in fact they're both dead...), so there is no need to be so overzealous. You won't get more people contributing by leveling threats at them when they make an honest mistake. Whatever good you think these ridiculous and inane rules do for the Wiki
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I added every single link on those pages you affected. So your excuses still fall on deaf ears. Funny how you spamming articles with your preferential archiving site which fails at its most basic job of providing archives is not considered spam though. While leaving multiple sources archive-less.
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Why did you remove the external link to 3dvieweronline considering it as spam? I am using that service quite often and honestly is way better than step3d.com here listed as supports step with its relative product tree, step is not only just geometry but much much more. If there is a good (free of
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What information otherwise a company page would have? On the wikipedia page of a brand which has been pioneer in water purification technology and is getting patents for that, if the simple information about the technology or the names of different models can't be updated then what benefit a user
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There are two references mentioning it, one including critical commentary and the other a quote from the artist. There is no rule per the NFC guidelines which states only one sample per section can be used; there are many album pages which use multiple samples within the composition section. The
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isn't a particularly helpful edit summary for people who don't regularly engage in discussions on non-free content. Just to clarify, do you object on the grounds of this - "Excessive quantities of short audio clips in a single article. A small number may be appropriate if each is accompanied by
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article too, which I also heavily contributed to. Housekeeping aside, my question was: Please point me to the concensus that
Archive.is must not only not be added to articles, but must also be removed from existing articles. (It was a lot of work to add all those archives and I wish I had used a
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Just looks like a transient issue. It could have been several factors that caused it to show up as dead when I checked it, but actually still be alive. Since its been a few hours Im unable to recreate the the circumstances which caused me to tag it. If a link becomes alive after it was tagged as
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Werieth, ive been looking through your contribs and talk page archives. It seems you are quite a deletionist in your Non-free media usage. Beyond the mission statement of WMF which you already shared with me previously, what motivates you? Or perhaps a better question is: what is your end game?
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AGAIN...that still makes no sense to me. If an image is ok on one page by copyright rules why would it be banned on another page...the link provided to the policy does not explain this. Furthermore, I fail to understand why any author or content owner would object to something that effectively
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I see what you mean about the template redirect; it surprises me that the original authors of the template spelled it as they did; I have always used lower-case on all my template calls. For your second change, I was referring to your change of every occurrence of the double-space " " has been
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isnt a valid argument, my suggestion from above is to write a good article, if a sound clip is needed to explain a point or points it may be used, but we dont include examples just to include them. Also if possible try to select a sample that combines multiple points you are trying to cover if
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Each of the files used includes critical commentary. The first is an audio sample which is discussed within its composition section. The second is a logo for a televised special for the album which was essential to its promotion, discussed in the
Promotion section. The third was a cover of its
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And while nothing I have done falls under NPA, threatening to get me blocked for issuing a valid warning, IS a violation of NPA. Not that I can be blocked for issuing a valid warning, just letting you know that you do not know how to implement Knowledge policy nor threaten others with it in an
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is one place to start, but without knowing the specific objections and what direction the discussion is going its hard to provide one page with all the needed information. I could point you to quite a few different links but the odds are it would be information overload as 80% of the material
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Archive sites which respect robots.txt and thus abandon snapshots are useless, they're no different than a site dying which defeats the point of archiving. This has just happened with gamespot refs and archive.org. A bot or user inserting links to archive.is is no different than you forcing
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will get on reaching to that page. Nowhere the page content was promoting the purifier models. Pls look into it, rather removing the whole content, would appreciate if certain objectionable words are removed so that correct info of the company can be visible on the wikipedia page. Thanks
256:"The logic of having a wikipedia page" is to provide readers information about the topic of the page. So a brand page, it must be hving information about what the brand is about, its products, awards, facility technology etc. This is what a user seeks when opening wikipedia page. Thanks
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I didnt change the formatting of any exiting dates. I followed a process of removal of archive.is cruft, and then searching webcitation and then followed by archive.org for a copy of any link in the article. If an archive is found I add it and the archivedate too. In some templates like
3375:. Im getting tired of your edit warring and refusal to abide by policy. If you really want to push it NFCC enforcement is exempt from 3RR, I dont want to go down that road, but it is there. If you want to discuss it we can do that, however the media needs to stay out until then.
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Werieth, is there a way to automatically create acceptable web archives, such as on webarchive.org? I notice many of the articles involved in your purge of archive.is had their archives replaced with webarchive.org, and I assume you are using a tool to achieve that. The
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course) service about step visualisation other than the very basic mentioned I believe should be mentioned as many people can be interested in! Otherwise please explain the criteria you apply to judge the validity of such external links.Thanks. Looking for a response.
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In that case, can you explain what it would potentially need for inclusion? I don't mean to ask again but as I said before, I'm only asking based on other articles which use the same amount of support for two, or sometimes more samples in the composition section.
3501:. The covers are visually similar and there is zero critical commentary on the art of the cover. NFCC allows for 1 image per album for visual identification (IE infobox usage) any additional images must have critical commentary about the art of the cover itself.
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The SfnRef was just bypassing template redirects, just some minor housekeeping. As for the spacing can you give a little more detail as Im not sure what you are referring to. As for archive.is the links shouldnt be kept as they are problematic in several fronts.
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removing perfectly functioning archives and leaving sources unprotected. Noone has asked you to do this and your talk page is littered with people telling you to knock it off, so knock it the fuck off or finish the job, you're vandalising the god damn articles.
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The image of an alternate album cover was uploaded by another user several years ago and is used in an infobox for an album's re-release, which is critically described and also has a separate track listing. It seems to meet the criteria for inclusion there.
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Why you are removing the content of the Kent RO Knowledge page? The last revision was in no way any advert but basic information about the brand. This is totally unacceptable and goes against the logic of having a wikipedia page. Looking for a response.
1538:. What I don't get is why you changed the correct format for the dates in the references, not respecting the (hidden) "Use dmy format" category for the article, turning them into a "yyyy-mm-dd". By the way, it would be helpful if you use edit summaries.--
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I wasnt aware I made the spacing change, Ill be more careful. As for using archive.is the links should be removed and replaced if possible. Given the filters in place and the problems having archive.is in articles cause removal is really the only option.
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article. I was so mentally exhausted after finishing it (it took me about a month or so to write) that I just didn't have the energy to do that. I deeply appreciate your efforts; the article is definitely better today, because of your work. Cheers! -
1955:. In most cases I am able to replace it and even end up adding a few more links to archives that help prevent link rot. Archive.is has been blocked from being added to articles, and does cause issues in some cases when trying to revert some edits.
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How is it that it's ok to use the book jackets on one wiki peage and not the other? That does not make sense to me. If you want to remove stuff explain your rationale on the talk page, don't just go yanking it without explanation.
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It doesnt matter what the copyright holder wants. Knowledge's mission is to provide free content, there is an understanding that some topics require non-free media in order to cover it. To that point Knowledge requires minimal usage
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I'm not too worried about being caught. As for whether the image is copyrightable, I have no clue. There wasn't a little C or R or TM beside it when I saved it, so I don't think so, but I can't say for certain. Hence why I used
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Given the issues archive.is has had including at one point supposedly having malware, Im not visiting any of the links to it. If the reference has an original url I do look in both archive.org and WebCite for an archived copy.
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That doesnt mean we need to include it, including a link to the parent company article where the logo is displayed is all that is needed, If the sub-entity doesnt have its own logo we dont need to substitute the parents logo.
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articles with archives to web.archive.org. There won't be any link rot on those articles. And there isn't a tool; you did it all manually? That had to be around 150 links. I remember doing it. Hey, good luck to you and
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provides free marketing and promotion of their material, they'd have to be a complete moron to object to that. If the rules on here are this contradictory and inconsistent I don't know how any decent content gets produced.
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They weren't added abusively, you've affected TWO articles under my watch and I added them ALL! These were not under the discussion, you've just messed the articles up. You can STOP your abusive editing any time now.
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You've removed a bunch of reference archives and replaced the rest with an inferior archiving site, and your actions have prevented the previous archives being restored. Finish the job if you're going to start it.
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NFCC states that usage of a logo on the article about the subject is acceptable. In this case the TV special isnt notable enough for its own article and thus inclusion is not allowed. One sentence dosnt meet
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The production may be notable enough to include in the article, but it falls far short of what is needed to include additional non-free media. With regards to the samples your perspective is wrong, its not
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please use the edit summary. You are required to, as stated in the decision at the archive.is RFC, and there is no excuse for you to repeatedly cause so much confusion by not doing so, as documented above.
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states that if a file can be replaced it should be (In this case with a link to the article on the song itself which also includes the sample). Im sorry if you dislike the policy but it is policy.
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You're not understanding. The same logo is used for their radio division and their television division. This wasn't a problem before with the previous logo, so I don't see it being a problem now.
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know that webcitation.org allows you archive somewhere around 100 links before it starts throttling you. If you want me to look at an article to see if there are already archives just let me know.
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the formatting is handled in the template itself, otherwise I just used my standard formatting. I know there are bots that will come around and correct it if I happen to use the wrong date format.
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archive.org and webcitation links in there, the only difference is that archive.is does what is needed and the others do not. And you still haven't added archives for the sources you diminished.
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the section is full of unsourced, unscientific buzz words, which look lifted from their sales brochure. Given your obvious ties with the company it would be best if you didnt edit that article.
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It was a matter of the problem not being caught, not that it doesnt exist. Before this goest too far down the road you might look and see if the file is copyrightable, I dont think it is, see
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Hi Werieth. I see you have taken it upon yourself to remove all the archive.is archived references (as well as changing all double-spacing to single-spacing, and changing sfnref to SfnRef) in
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This is KWW's personal bug that he has inflicted on the community through a non-neutral RFC, and that Werieth is enforcing without explanation or discussion leaving only damage in his wake.
368:- I am 100% in agreement that the images are not necessary on the article but that is a very subjective call, and thus revert warring in this specific case is one of those not covered under
2819:. The nomination also needs an image/media review, so if that's more up your alley than a formal review, it'd be greatly appreciated too. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers!
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articles I mention above mostly did not have their archives replaced with webarchive.org, though. I'm asking since I am being forced to consider doing it all manually all over again.
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There is no personal attack, I am asking, seriously, what your malfunction is. These links are not forbidden and were not added by a bot. You have no excuse for what you are doing.
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With this logic, no representation of Canadian Forces rank insignia would be able to be displayed on Knowledge. However, all other rank insignia images do not have this statement.
1065:. I understand the recent decisions regarding archive.is, but can you tell me if it is a requirement to remove it from existing articles? What about the other changes? Thank-you.
342:. If you want to include the material you need to do it in a non-promotional, encyclopedic method. Often a list of awards is just cruft, and listing brands/products falls afoul of
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things up. At archive.is's peak it had 14,000 links. archive.org has just under 590,000 links. Which shows about a 2% of the market. Using such a widespread tool isnt spamming.
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I don't quite get this; my guess is that &M is treated as the start of a special character, although I would think "Texas A&M" would be a common usage (and it is).
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you must not be aware of the history, the fact that open proxies, mass link campaigns, and probable bot nets are involved in a good percentage of links that where added.
1292:. I understand that Knowledge wishes to have free images, and this makes sense to me. I have noticed this licensing information with the flag officer shoulder boards:
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OK I have a good article and I'm trying to describe/cover something in the text, but I'm falling short and including a piece of non-free media will allow me to do that
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Files are no longer missing non-free use rationale's for this article as it was added to "Territorial Cup" which redirects to Arizona-Arizona State football rivalry.--
2890:. Knowledge's policy on non-free media is complex, but that page does limit the usage of non-free media to specific cases, and is far more strict than copyright law.
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They cause issue adding htem now, the existing links do not cause any trouble, I should know considering how many edits I've made to both articles you've vandalised.
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Keeping WP from legal action? Enable greater distribution of WP copy/text in venues that would be difficult with non-free media? Please help me understand. Thanks.
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one as a random example. It was just an observation that some get to remain there while others don't, even though they use the same amount of critical commentary.
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There still isnt any critical commentary of the visual elements of the re-issue. Just because we discuss the re-issue doesn't mean we need to show the cover.
522:. I have no objection to removing the archive URLs in templates but I'd rather have a substandard archive link than a 404 for references which are bare urls.
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re-release, which includes commentary and is significant to its release. These all meet the criteria of NFC and can be included within the article. Regards,
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People should feel welcome and editors and more experienced contributors should help them understand the rules instead of threatening them when they don't.
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Thats part of it. Those sound clips are already being used in their primary article (WP:NFCC#3]]), and its basically being used to list samples which fails
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