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783:. I don't think that the fact that Bgwhite has not responded to any messages after BU Rob 13 started trying to communicate him is unrelated. Rob has in the past proposed and other reasons why I have to lose my admin rights. Sometimes it feels like the reason is only the excuse and not the main problem. It was clear I was to ask for "interaction zero" with Rob and even ask to examine if their actions led to weakening the project by discouraging people. I feel like they got here first only to name the discussion after my name and not after them. 2048:
firm 2 month ban and leaving the community with the option to lift the ban or continue it as they see fit after that time. If no consensus is reached then, I would suggest the ban automatically be lifted at that point (i.e definite consensus needed to extend the ban). I would also ask/suggest that any breach of this ban be reported to the Arbitration Committee rather than raising the issue at ANI. ... (includes) any new or existing additional accounts without a bot flag beginning to use AWB or any other semi-automated or automated tools.
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pattern of edits via semi-automated tools from his main account where this might reasonably be perceived as evading the block. In this circumstance, Magioladitis (like any other editor) should await discussion and consensus as to whether or not the edits are permissible and useful, and resume making such edits through any account only if and when the consensus is favorable.
1186:. If you believe there is useful broader context to provide for this case - e.g. that Magioladitis does or doesn't have a higher error rate than other editors doing similar work, or that there are specific and identifiable problems with cases about bots, or whatever, it's looking like the evidence page of this case will be the best venue for those topics. 2709: 1301:(however that is a slippery slope: 2 accepts in an hour, if the timing of a filing party is right, you could easily have 10 accepts by the time a named party wakes up). There is no reason that ALL of you can't wait 24 hours after all named parties have put opening statements (and give it a max of 72 hours since opening of the case). 1176:
request and last year's request naming Fram - should tell you just exactly how effective it is to file early for the sake of getting to frame the case. Hammersoft's analysis would be more convincing if cases were randomly assigned to the name-by-user or name-by-topic condition, but as stated it overlooks prior probability.
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While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still
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Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators – that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) – without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction
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edits are not usually considered cosmetic but still need consensus to be done by bots. Bots should not make edits which are purely cosmetic; however, when making an approved substantive change, bots may simultaneously make edits that would otherwise be considered cosmetic. Exceptions for bots to make
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4) Editors are accountable for their conduct. As such, they are expected to respond appropriately to queries about their actions and to justify them where needed. Where the Arbitration Committee, the community or other authorised person imposes a sanction, editors are expected to comply with both the
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In response to Magioladitis' section; I've started discussions to revoke approval from bots making cosmetic edits. This was clean-up from when Magioladitis was a BAG member and approved cosmetic-only bot edits with no consensus (including for the friends he's self-identified below). I always approach
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In the discussions which ensued with Justlettersandnumbers and Materialscientist, Magioladitis stated that he was aware two bots were already making these changes. He also stated that the reason he was making these edits, and not leaving them for the bots, was that he wanted to make general fixes as
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9) For the purposes of dispute resolution, whether an editor is engaging in "high-speed editing" (that is, the number of edits per minute) is irrelevant. Where editors have made a number of similar edits in a short time space and other editors have raised concerns about those edits, the editor is to
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However, you'll see that there were only two accepts in the period before Magioladitis became active. We have certainly had cases involving users who have retired or otherwise become inactive, but I certainly don't know of any recently where so many votes to accept a case were cast while a party was
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I'm not sure I buy the idea that a case titled "Magioladitis" to review the actions of Magioladitis is liable to bias the case any more than a case titled "Px4AX7WDxfEQM5h" to review the actions of Magioladitis would. Regardless, I think you're probably better off bringing this up in a broader forum
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The proposal to ban Magioladitis from using AWB passes, and he is banned from using AWB or any other semi-automated or automated editing tools on his main account for a period of 2 months ... Magioladitis can appeal to the community for his AWB ban to be removed on or after 7 September, so giving a
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2) Editors should use their best efforts to communicate with one another, particularly when disputes arise. When an editor's input is consistently unclear or difficult to follow, the merits of his or her position may not be fully understood by those reading the communication. An editor's failure to
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I'll be deferring to the evidence and workshop phase to determine what the focus of this case will be, which may very well be editor conduct or something other. The case already has a significant history and I deem that aspect to be by far the greatest contributing factors to the decision to accept
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There is no reason to regret to start this case. It's been months since the last time we really discussed this and it would be good to evaluate the various aspects proposed. how they got implemented, how both sides used the results of the ArbCom and who really promoted drama. Everything was planned
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After the ArbCom resulted RU Rob 13 was unhappy from that because from day 0 they wanted blood. They did not act only against me but went after the tasks I have approved as BAG member, the people I work as team (Bgwhite, Ladsgroup, et al.). Instead of seeking a compromise between two different good
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I'm coming here with the question of whether the pattern of conduct since the previous case is compatible with adminship. It is unprecedented for an administrator to be given two topic bans and a block for violating a ban within three weeks. Add on the ArbCom restrictions just four months ago and I
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Lifted subject to a probationary period lasting 1 year from 08 January 2020. During this period, any uninvolved administrator may re-impose the remedy as an arbitration enforcement action, subject to appeal only to the Arbitration Committee. If the probationary period elapses without incident, the
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Speaking of cognitive biases... I dunno, Beetstra, some people here seem to be hearing what they expect to hear more than what's really said. We are familiar with the facts of this case, because the current committee has already reviewed this matter in depth. That is materially different than, for
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named after individuals are significantly more likely seeking resolutions regarding topics or procedures; cases named after individuals are usually, more often than not, about conduct. I'd be curious to see a comparisons between all cases where a single individual editor's conduct was the locus of
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of these discussions unfolding over the past week. I believe we have comprehensively come to a point whereby the community has exhausted a considerable amount of time attempting to resolve or remedy the situation. While I understand the recent block was contentious, there is a responsibility to at
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It's clear that we have a ongoing drama. I am started an effort to disengage from that the last days. Recall that the main discussion started from the fact that edits that in general are considered beneficial should or should not be done in a systematic way. After the ArbCom I focused of finding a
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instances where I've started a discussion querying whether a bot approval should be revoked, the community has agreed with me and revoked the approval. In contrast, Magioladitis has tried multiple times to request my bots be reviewed due to minor bugs normal for any operator without any discussion
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are trusted members of the community who are expected to lead by example. They are expected to follow Knowledge (XXG)'s policies and restrictions which are placed upon them. Occasional mistakes are entirely compatible with this; administrators are not expected to be perfect. However, sustained or
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1) The purpose of Knowledge (XXG) is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors. Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are undertaken in good
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should do nicely. Conversely, the most seemingly-prejudicial case name in the recent past was "Vested Contributors" (later AE2), which of course does not name any editors. A look through some of the rejected requests of the past couple of years - I suggest in particular the recent Godsy/Legacypac
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example, the War of the Pacific case (about which I knew nothing whatsoever before it appeared on our pages), or the common situation in which the current committee is asked at ARCA to "clarify" a decision made five years ago. (Nowhere else on Knowledge (XXG) do I feel more like an example of the
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As for the idea that Magioladitis is being railroaded: I wrote the original PD in the Magioladitis case, which focused heavily on recommending that the community work out clearer parameters for what would be considered a "cosmetic" edit, and included a quite mild remedy for Magioladitis himself.
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demonstrates my point on why discussing a procedural issue during a case will interfere with one another and may potentially sabotage the case by distracting it. My comment above in no way was speaking to this case and I was responding directly to comments made by Hammersoft about their study on
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All actions designated as arbitration enforcement actions, including those alleged to be out of process or against existing policy, must first be appealed following arbitration enforcement procedures to establish if such enforcement is inappropriate before the action may be reversed or formally
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These provisions apply only to contentious topics placed by administrators and to blocks placed by administrators to enforce arbitration case decisions. They do not apply to sanctions directly authorised by the committee, and enacted either by arbitrators or by arbitration clerks, or to special
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7.1) Making any semi-automated edits which do not affect the rendered visual output of a page. This restriction does not apply to edits which address issues related to accessibility guidelines. Further, Magioladitis may seek consensus to perform a specific type of semi-automated edit that would
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whether high-speed or large-scale edits that involve errors an attentive human would not make are actually being performed by a bot, by a human assisted by a script, or even by a human without any programmatic assistance. No matter the method, the disruptive editing must stop or the user may be
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Here we have a gradual escalation of unnecessary drama. My edits have reduced, better rules have been set, I started the procedure to ask permission for certain edits and I have opened BRFAs for the various tasks. The ongoing drama has made the BRFA uncomfortable to re-allow general fixes that,
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8) Performing the same or similar series of edits in an automated fashion using a bot and in a semi-automated fashion on his main account is acceptable only as long as the edits are not contentious. Should Yobot be stopped or blocked for a series of edits, Magioladitis may not perform the same
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5) Editors who have been sanctioned, whether by the Arbitration Committee or the community, for improper conduct are expected to avoid conduct which is below Knowledge (XXG)'s expectations. Failure to demonstrate appropriate conduct may result in the editor being subject to increasingly severe
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It's important to note that 'accepting the case' is not the same thing as 'accepting the viewpoint of the filing party'. I'm not sure why that's being assumed. Many of the broad issues being brought up are arguments that have already been brought up and responded to by all parties involved; an
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As an additional exception, Magioladitis may continue to participate in any active discussion he has started from before the topic ban until its natural conclusion. He may not start new threads, subthreads, or unarchive old threads, and a discussion is considered concluded when the thread is
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I don't think the ongoing drama affected me as admin. I keep helping with the best way I can. Escalating a discussion about minor, and still positive edits, to an admin drama, I don't think it's beneficial to Knowledge (XXG) and to the Wikimedia Movement. We already lost a highly active admin
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of the Magioladitis case is lifted subject to a probationary period lasting 1 year from the date this motion is enacted. During this period, any uninvolved administrator may re-impose the remedy as an arbitration enforcement action, subject to appeal only to the Arbitration Committee. If the
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recognized this was a major problem as the policies were in conflict with either the community practice or were simply unclear. ArbCom does not decide matters of policy, which is why the community was encouraged to remedy these policy issues. Evaluating whether clear instruction has now been
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way to do these edits with the less disruption for the community and after that community reformed COSMETICBOT to better reflet community consensus. Any conflicts have not at all affected the readers and a small fraction of admins have in fact participated in the ongoing discussions.
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the PD was posted, including Magioladitis' own response and feedback from others following the case, led to a somewhat stronger remedy. It's hard to read that trajectory as being the result of some kind of bias against him or desire to throw him under the bus.
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The ISBN edits also effectively disregarded the spirit of the reminder issued by the Arbitration Committee which only specified that he should not make edits which Yobot has been "stopped or blocked" from making (not edits which are still pending approval).
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Appeals may be made only by the editor under sanction and only for a currently active sanction. Requests for modification of page restrictions may be made by any editor. The process has three possible stages (see "Important notes" below). The editor may:
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placed by a former administrator, the administrator who made the modification becomes the "enforcing administrator". If a former administrator regains the tools, the provisions of this section again apply to their unmodified enforcement actions.
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6) Fully automated bot editing and semi-automated editing scripts perform an important and valuable function on Knowledge (XXG). To facilitate the regulation and coordination of automated editing, the community has a long-established
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I genuinely have no idea what your reply means. If you're worried about word limits and you want to start a discussion about something not directly related to this case request, feel free to leave a message on my talk page or at
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provided, I would hope, continues to remain a critical factor if and when the issue of conduct comes up, which it certainly will by way of the case request, other comments, and the previous recent attempts at dispute resolution.
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at the Administrators' noticeboard was started following Magioladitis' having started a number of similar discussions about the COSMETICBOT policy. In this discussion, Magioladitis was accused of disrupting Knowledge (XXG) by
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Nothing in this section prevents an administrator from replacing an existing sanction issued by another administrator with a new sanction if fresh misconduct has taken place after the existing sanction was applied.
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request an easing or removal of the sanction on the grounds that said sanction is no longer needed, but such requests may only be made once every six months, or whatever longer period the committee may specify.
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0) Should any user subject to a restriction in this case violate that restriction, that user may be blocked, initially for up to one month, and then with blocks increasing in duration to a maximum of one year.
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tasks. For clarity, he may discuss AWB and similar tools (notwithstanding his other sanctions), but may not make edits using them (or a derivative) on the English Knowledge (XXG). This sanction supersedes the
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that he did not believe he should have to stop making semi-automated edits when only one editor (even though he had been asked by both Justlettersandnumbers and Materialscientist) had requested that he stop.
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serious disruption of Knowledge (XXG) is incompatible with the expectations and responsibilities of administrators, and consistent or egregious poor judgement may result in the removal of administrator tools.
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I think the last ArbCom left some things in a gray area exactly because the general belief is that some edits should be done one way or another and we hav to find a way to cooperate in a friendly environment.
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additional re-summary for the sake of procedure does not change whether some of us are already familiar with the situation; it was abundantly clear that this case was inevitably going to be heading our way.
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I been watching this on and off and believe that we are at the point where the Committee needs to become involved to examine the suitability of Magioladitis to continue holding the admin bit. Specifically,
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outside an approved bot task. The latter topic ban was based on a pattern of editing exactly described by the Committee's reminder in the previous case; underlying editing patterns have not changed.
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than individual ArbCom cases, since these statements will shortly be archived or moved (depending on whether the case is accepted) and won't be in a great place for continued discussion either way.
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this one, and strongly recommend that any further commentary about case names and procedures, real or alleged cognitive biases, and other matters not related to this specific request move to
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respond to concerns with sufficient clarity, conciseness and detail, or failure to focus on the topic being discussed, can impede both collaborative editing and dispute resolution. It is a
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probationary period elapses without incident, the restriction is to be considered permanently lifted. For clarity, Magioladitis' prohibition on making cosmetic edits will remain in force.
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While you were complaining about the length of BU Rob13's statement, he reduced his below 500 words while your statement has ballooned to 61 words over the limit as of my writing this.
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with narrow exceptions. In response to making high-speed bot-like edits from his main account while a Yobot bot task was pending approval, the community enacted a second topic ban on
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Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.
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Rob has written more words than the allowed space. Please do not allow any further comments. Rob keeps rewriting and commenting using this page as a forum.
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During these discussions, Magioladitis was requested to stop starting discussions about the COSMETICBOT policy as his proposals were not gaining traction.
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I think we need to hear from Magioladitis first, but there does seem to be an awful lot of community time being spent on this that shouldn't be necessary.
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Magioladitis may, in good faith, seek specific clarifications on how to interpret COSMETICBOT for his own bots and projects he is involved with (such as
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case comes from the last one and not because of the case title. I would not be opposed to renaming the case COSMETICBOT if the case was accepted.
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as needed, but the other content of this page may not be edited except by clerks or arbitrators. Please raise any questions about this decision at
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concerns raised by community members by continuing to make semi-automated edits after being asked not to by community members. These edits are
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to continue the momentum toward the net-4 threshold, and to highlight the specific issue I hoped Magioladitis would address in his statement.
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restriction is to be considered permanently lifted. For clarity, Magioladitis' prohibition on making cosmetic edits will remain in force.
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the intent of the topic ban (which was to remove Magioladitis from discussions concerning COSMETICBOT, with limited exceptions) and was
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Magioladitis is topic banned from initiating or participating in discussions concerning the amendment, removal, or replacement of
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described that case request as "strike two", and the Committee generally agreed that misuse of administrative tools had occurred.
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10) From 30 Dec 2016 to 28 Feb 2017, Magioladitis started two discussions related to the COSMETICBOT policy and general fixes (
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territory. The community cannot make a decision to desysop under current policy. ArbCom is the proper venue to evaluate this.
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with their own bots, or theoretical bots which may be developed in the future). As an exception to this ban, he may make a
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Any block, restriction, ban, or sanction performed under the authorisation of a remedy for this case must be logged at
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I'm sorry that it's come to this, but I don't see any other way of resolving the issues than to accept this case.
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5) At 19:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC), less than two hours after Magioladitis started, the first objection was
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BU Rob13 left a notification about the ArbCom case immediately after he filed it at 04:23, 16 July 2017
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I think there's no choice but to kick this back to the Arbitration Committee for review. In March, the
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a similar concern on Magioladitis's talk page. Magioladitis' last ISBN edit (in this series) was at
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6) For consistent poor judgement and failure to follow Knowledge (XXG)'s policies and guidelines,
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by creating a number of similar discussions in a short time-span. The discussion resolved that:
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bias. If comments about that discussion and the case cannot be separated, then case and point.
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the case. A case request is not the place where the decisions or scope should be determined.`
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before being used. He is indefinitely prohibited from making automated edits from his main (
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with me beforehand. Every time, the community has disagreed with Magioladitis. The latest
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simply asleep. I would like to think we work that fast, but I don't think that's right.
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to make "genfixes". This task was not approved until 22 July 2017. Beginning from
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in action... ;) And if you need examples of named parties who weren't sanctioned,
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Since then, the community has lost patience with Magioladitis. In response to the
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this is not technically a violation of the ban because he's prohibited only from
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the bot operator first, attempting to find a mutually agreeable way forward. In
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that Magioladitis was using the code from his unapproved bot for this editing.
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that the operator communicates cordially, promptly, and appropriately.
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the dispute, but where case titles were named after the editor or not.
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Although I wish this weren't necessary, I will join the consensus to
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