1101:(Betacommand may be able to provide a more up-to-date link - the latest I heard is that he plans to start this phase in April) - it would be good to avoid drama around implementation of that phase of operations. In addition though, I am concerned that there will be a big push from certain quarters, after the WMF deadline passes on 23 March 2008, to change the deletion criteria and get rid of a lot of non-free images that some people don't think should be on Knowledge (XXG). Those people are perfectly entitled to do that, but I don't want to see such changes strong-armed through under the banner of "enforcing the WMF resolution", at least not without proper community discussion. And that means a long, careful discussion over several weeks, with a clear way to end the discussion and move forward. Even though people say this is no longer possible give the size of Knowledge (XXG), I don't think people or bots should be forcing the pace on anything as sensitive as this, especially given the lessons of what happened over the past year. It is still unclear how much damage the implementation of this policy has done to the community.
904:) does on non-free images. I have, however, consistently criticised the way in which this work has been done, and made criticisms on other matters, and supported criticisms made by others when I thought they were valid. This has been difficult for several reasons: (1) Some people attack Betacommand and his work due to failure to understand our policy - this creates a lot of background noise. (2) Some people uncritically support Betacommand and his work and attack his critics - this too adds to the background noise. (3) Those that fall between these two extremes are not all saying the same thing at the same time (there is a wide spectrum of opinion and a large number of issues). This results in long, heated discussions, and very little progress. An added distraction is Betacommand's incivility in response to criticism, and his disruption in other areas, which, when it involves his bot, proves (or did prove) difficult to separate from his non-free image work.
1726:, it shouldn't be allowed to operate at all. I hope the arbitrators can see the fallacy in that argument. People have requested to be opted out, and up until Beta's recent changes, he allowed anyone to request opting out, as long as they had a valid reason (something beyond "it's annoying me"). The recent opt-out system he created has been met with resistance because it tries to circumvent policy or something like that. It's VOLUNTARY. As for the blocks, well, it feels to me that most of the blocks are by admins who really don't understand what the problem is and are so anxious to block such a high-profile bot as this and gain access to the elite club of admins against BCBot that they don't consider the reasons for blocking and they don't attempt to get consensus for a block. There have been blocks of this bot over a single error, where my bot, which is much less well known, has made similar errors without being blocked.
1738:. Arbitrators may understand the feeling of frustration when one is trying to volunteer with Knowledge (XXG) and is met with resistance, uncivil comments, personal attacks, and in general the immaturity of the community. While there are true newbies who do not understand policy and need to be helped, our ability to do so is being diminished by assaults by those who refuse to understand policy, as demonstrated in the Abu bahali case mentioned by NYB in his comments below. While arbitration will help in this manner, the best solution would most likely be one which is implemented quickly. Now that the Arbitration Committee has agreed to take on this case, I hope they do so in a prompt manner and take into account the feelings I have expressed in this last paragraph along with the policy side of the matter. --
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evidence against betacommand is more than covered above, if arbcom don't choose to proceed on the basis of the above diffs, then frankly they are not worth the web page they written on. It is laughable that the creation of a separate but entirely subordinate bot is being heralded as a start to solve all the problems, that pathetic attitude is merely indicative of the entire problem, betacommand is untouchable on wikpedia, his hobby programming is more important than any other policy, and it is frankly not worth questioning any aspect of his existence, its pointless, editors must accept he is untouchable, lest you be vandalised or banned for the most ridiculous of reasons, or, as have some very experienced yet completely pissed off admins have already done, leave. A total joke.
1336:. The allowance of the wars with bcb has only cemented this idea in certain supporters eyes, who clearly don't understand the policy or the bot. Finally, I am amazed given the named participants above that this issue is still being attributed to just angry newbies who don't understand why their images have been tagged. It is not, bcb and his bot, and the wider compliance process he is a part of (and part of this is he must accept that as bcb owner that he is a part of a system, not a just lone editor) can be massively improved, but not if he remains an intransigent cog in the system, given massive leeway because he can't differentiate between angry repsonses from newbies and feedback from other editors.
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criteria. This is an essential task and also one of the most thankless in the entire project, because contributors who have dedicated volunteer time to locating and uploading an image to accompany an article are often frustrated or offended to receive a notice that they have violated our intellectual-property policy or, worse, when their images are deleted. The endless disputes over proper interpretation and application of the policies complicate the task still further, as does the fact that there are so many images to be addressed that the notifications must often be provided via bot-delivered templates rather than individually. As I have said in the past,
736:. The policy was made after a board resolution on March 23 2007 gave a year to fix non-free media. Unfortunately, the communication between Betacommand and users who wholeheatedly agree with these activities and users who are opposed to it has been less than stellar. This is a very heated conflict, as Betacommand is constantly subject to abuse and trolling, and he feels a bit alienated by this. I urge the Abritration Committee to look at the behaviour of users in this debate, possibly rule on the application on the policy, and basically, help resolve this conflict over fair use policy and the resulting incivility and mess that has ensued with it.
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utilization of copyrighted material where the use constitutes "fair use." Determining what constitutes fair use of a given image in a given context can be a complex question of intellectual property law (I am not expressing any legal opinions in these comments). Partly for potential liability reasons, partly for practical reasons, and partly for philosophical reasons, English
Knowledge (XXG) has placed strict limits on when fair-use media may be used and requires that certain information be provided in connection with each such use. The body of policy and policy interpretation that has grown up surrounding application of the
1468:, but the underlying problem is that the image-tagging process has been badly designed and badly handled. It appears to have been designed primarily as a technical task, with far too little provision for the huge social impact of attaching deletion warnings to hundreds of thousands of images, such as the ability of the bot operator to withstand the inevitable abuse, and the lack of any visible mechanism to extract from the torrent of reactions any aspects of the process which might benefit from tweaking. The process has also been overly dependent on BC, with several adverse consequences.
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about
BetacommandBot when not necessary. In my opinion, the initial speedy approval should have stood because it is a clone of an existing bot. The only legitimate concerns (that did not also apply to BetacommandBot) were those about the bot being a role account, and that is why the approval was pushed through. Perceived attempts at disruption and argument-mongering after the closing resulted in the protection of the approval page. It is not standard practice to protect these, but it isn't every day that a BRFA gets that much negative attention.
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accountable for its failings. I would also like some clarification of this continued idea that BCB for NFC10c is protecting WP from being sued, in his own words and other, he is doing 'good work' or essential work. With regards to the NFCC resolution, bcb 'enforces' a ridiculously small part of the policy, so small as to be redundant, considering it is something a human can check during the necessary human assessment of every fair use claimed image for the 95% of the policy bcb
1997:"Editors who review images uploaded to Knowledge (XXG) and identify those that are missing the necessary information play an important role in safeguarding the free nature of the project and avoiding potential legal exposure. However, image-tagging rules are necessarily complex, are sometimes subject to varying interpretations, and can be particularly confusing to new editors. Therefore, it is essential that editors performing this valued role should remain
754:: I personally think that the community isn't making progress; even if it is making some progress, I think there's too much bad-faith, incivility and the zOMG WIKIDRAMA with this. Betacommand has indicated a desire for an arb case for quite a bit now, and many think that an arb case is inevitable. I'd prefer to try to cut all the bad-faith, incivility and zOMG WIKIDRAMA as soon as possible, preferably through the intervention of the arbitration committee.
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their own initiative - i.e., without an explanation of why they should. It should be noted, also, that slow and painful progress on the
Betacommand/BetacommandBot issues is being made, particularly with the brand new creation of a separate bot account to allow three other users the ability to perform BCBot functions. This wasn't without its own controversy, but it will fade with time and there will be one less BC associated problem to deal with.
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RFC or mediation's still ongoing, or mentorship is occurring. But it can be for any kind of communal approach. Arbitration is the last resort, for matters that will not wait, or matters that the community cannot resolve. Plainly, neither of those are the case at this time (March 14). That may or may not change shortly, depending on circumstances. hence not accepting, not declining, but "on hold" watching progress of communal discussion.
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project altogether. He was not the first and will not be the last editor who dedicates himself or herself to image work for a time and then wearies of the never-ending and ill-received task and either drops image work as a user of his or her volunteer time or leaves
Knowledge (XXG) altogether. But we also don't know how many contributors, old and new, weary of insufficiently explicated image deletions and warnings and leave us as well.
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possible), and that stress is in turn going to heavily diminish imminently (which seems possible), then that is the reason I would like to hold off a bit to see how it goes. But to avoid doubt, as I have said many times, ultimately incivility norms apply to all, not just some, and chances (when given and used properly) should be given in anticipation of actual visible effort and change, not interminably. Just to clarify the thinking.
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impose appropriate sanctions including but not limited to the revocation of any user's privilege to use automated tools such as bots and scripts, revocation of other privileges, topic bans, civility restrictions, or any other remedies needed to end the disruption. Nothing in this paragraph restricts the authority of administrators to take appropriate action to deal with any disruptive incidents that may occur.
885:. It is, however, only a very small part of the work needed. It acts as one of several initial barriers (such as using the right copyright tag) that people have to overcome if they want to use non-free images, and those barriers are right and proper for a free-content encyclopedia. Much more work is needed though to bring en-Knowledge (XXG)'s non-free images into line with our Exemption Doctrine Policy (
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nor is this request for
Betacommand. Focusing on the bot, this is premature as the deadline is quickly approaching and much of the drama surrounding this bot will fall silent once there are only new uploads being tagged. As I recommended to MBisanz when he asked for my opinion on making his request, this would be better postponed until a month after the deadline, if issues continue past that point.
2619:(E) Betacommand has utilized his bot for several tasks not within the scope of prior approvals by the Bot Approvals Group. At least until recently, Betacommand did not segregate his automated image-tagging work from other BetacommandBot tasks, which although not required would have facilitated addressing issues involving one disputed task without interfering with the performance of other tasks.
2555:, this Committee unanimously found that Betacommand, who was then an administrator, had committed a series of errors and misjudgments. Among other concerns were issues relating to the deletion of images, the misuse of automated tools and related communication issues, and incidents of alleged disruption to prove a point. Betacommand was desysopped, but was not otherwise sanctioned.
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and often legal reasons, even though the precise parameters of the policy may be debatable or unclear. Disagreeing with the concerns raised, disputing the interpretation of policy as applied to a specific image, and/or requesting a third opinion are often legitimate responses, but personal attacks on the user raising the question are never appropriate.
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of the behavior of those they are in disputes with. Inappropriate behavior by other editors does not legitimize one's own misconduct, though it may be considered as a mitigating factor in some circumstances. Moreover, users who have been justifiably criticized or formally sanctioned for improper conduct are expected to avoid repeating that conduct.
1856:; others may differ, I personally feel comfortable with deeming that BAG's decision to allow, does indeed make sense. Multiple operators is a non-standard action but those involved seem aware of their responsibilities, the suggestions are reasonable and appropriately minimal, and have considered anti-abuse measures such as logging who uses the bot.
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the performance of administrative tasks. Editors making any or all of these types of contributions are welcome. The project and progress toward our goals are diminished if we drive away or demoralize a good-faith editor who contributes or has the potential to contribute, while complying with
Knowledge (XXG) policies, in any or all of these areas.
2371:, key elements of which are policy, stipulates that non-free images and other media may be used only under certain specific circumstances. The source of the image, the provision under which it is used, and the article where it appears must be documented. This policy serves as the project-specific implementation of the Wikimedia Foundation
914:. There are many issues concerning non-free images that need to be discussed and worked on, and the constant discussions around Betacommand and his bot and the other issues involving Betacommand, distract from this other work (and the distractions include this arbitration request and any case if it opens). I've given three examples here.
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time for BCbot to be stood down from NFCC image-tagging, and for BC to concentrate on programming an NFCC bot for others to use. So far as I am aware, all BCbot's other tasks are either duplicates of the functions of other bots or are non-critical. Given the ongoing problems with his bot, the bot flag should be withdrawn from BCbot,
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that appear on their face to have significant substance. And yet, one must recognize and respect the dedication to
Knowledge (XXG) of a user who, in spite of constant criticism and in spite of the impact that the committee's prior decision must have had upon him, continues to take the lead in image patrolling work day-in and day-out.
2611:, a page on which users could elect not to receive image-tagging notifications from BetacommandBot. However, in addition to making the legitimate point that users might suffer deletion of their images without prior notification if they opted out of receiving notifications, Betacommand also attempted to impose the unreasonable
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tens of thousands of actually or allegedly non-compliant images and media. In carrying out this role, Betacommand becomes a de facto voice of the project to editors, frequently including new editors, whose images he has challenged. Responses to
Betacommand's work from affected editors have ranged from praise and numerous
2604:(C) In February 2008, in admitted retaliation for criticism by another user, Betacommand engaged in harassment and in disruption to make a point by causing BetacommandBot to "spam" about 50 automated image-tagging notices on that user's talkpage even though the images and notices had nothing to do with that user.
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by other editors in this process will be a valuable contribution toward addressing the overall situation reflected in the record of this case. Betacommand is also urged to establish an "opt-out" list for
BetacommandBot without imposing any unnecessary conditions on the right to decline to receive notifications.
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on
Betacommand during late May, 2008. He is prohibited from running automated programs to make edits (or edits that appear to be automated), on either a bot account, or his main account. He is also placed on civility parole; any edit which is seen as uncivil by an uninvolved administrator may lead to
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11.1) Like administrators and other editors in positions of trust, bot operators have a heightened responsibility to the community. Bot operators are expected to respond reasonably to questions or concerns about the operation of their bot. An editor who (even in good faith) misuses automated editing
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9) An editor whose image's licensing or fair-use status is questioned, or any other editor who believes the image should be retained, should address the matter promptly and civilly. In doing so, it is best to bear in mind that having and adhering to policies in this area is essential for both ethical
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The need to control excessive or unauthorized use of non-free images coupled with the complexities of our use criteria create a need for users to act as "image patrollers" who review uploads and call for the improved documentation and/or deletion of images that they believe are being used outside our
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Issue (9) There has presumably been significant discussion by the community at other venues (meta, MWF-instigated), but I can't myself be sure of this. Carcharoth's concern is that polarization of the debate around Betacommand's bot work may have caused other necessary debates to be sidelined. If so,
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to do with betacommand's civility, which to a large extent arises in the context of being the recipient of, and respondent to, the messages of thwarted uploaders and communication with bot matters, and therefore if removed from that context which he is handling problematically, may well significantly
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Even after endless discussion, many of us, including myself, have become frustrated at users who do not appear to be paying attention to our statements who we feel are wasting our time. We may snap at them, ignore them, or unleash bots against them. Sometimes these are intended as non-disruptive ways
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Now I must address three more things: BetacommandBot, specifically the opt-out arguments and its blocks, the proposed bot, and the attitude of various users throughout this. BetacommandBot performs a necessary task, enforcement of our non-free content policy. No one debates this. People do argue that
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It doesn't stop there. Having used the bot to made some 2,500 unauthorised edits, BC ignored repeated calls from many editors to revert the damage, leaving others to do so manually. The rollback happened only after I blocked BCbot when it resumed work on a different task, without an effort being made
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authorised. We have two possibilities here: either BC ignores his bot's task limits, or he doesn't understand them, and neither is acceptable in the operator of a bot, particularly one running at such speed on the toolserver. BC claimed that done this before without complaint, but failed to offer any
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Before undertaking any pattern of edits (such as a single task carried out on multiple pages) that affects more than 25 pages, Betacommand must propose the task on WP:VPR and wait at least 24 hours for community discussion. If there is any opposition, Betacommand must wait for a consensus supporting
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I am sure that all of us on the committee would infinitely prefer to be voting to restore +sysop to a Betacommand who had addressed all of the issues raised in the committee's prior decision, rather than considering whether to accept another arbitration case against him, one which raises some issues
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Meanwhile, the community is deadlocked between the permacritics of BC/BCbot and the die-hard defenders of the bot ... with the result that no resolution is possible of the genuine problems which do occur, unless arbcom sets some parameters, either by directly placing restraints on BC and BCbot (such
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I have no previous history of dispute with BC, and first engaged him over the removal of redlinked categories. From that episode, it appears to BC accepts no restraints on the use of his bot, and the Bot Approvals Group seems uninterested in taking action about the breaches, and sees itself purely a
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The unpleasantness of the attacks on BC has unsurprisingly led to some well-intentioned editors setting themselves up as his protectors, fending off all criticism. Unfortunately, while there have been some perma-critics of BC, some of the defenders also appear to be defending BC and BCbot regardless
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First, I must say that I find this RfAr to be very premature, and have stated as much on the ANI/B page. BCBot has some important functions he needs to perform in advance of 23 March, and allowing him to finish these functions would have also cooled down the tempers of all parties on all sides. With
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I don't think there's much that ArbCom can do at this point. Progress is being made, as has been noted by others. It's slow, but it's happening. The situation, as it currently stands, is still very heated on both sides. Many criticize Betacommand's civility, or lack there of, but it's not one sided,
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2) Betacommand is urged to be significantly more responsive to good-faith questions from users whose images he tags and either to respond directly to such questions, to seek to have others do so, or to refer users to another appropriate location where their questions can be addressed. Participation
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5) The issues concerning Betacommand's and BetacommandBot's conduct, coupled with overreactions on the part of some other editors and related disputes, have resulted in a series of disputes and disruptions. The level of disruption has been well beyond what a collaborative project should be expected
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3) Since the prior Arbitration decision, Betacommand has continued to edit with an emphasis on bot-programming and image-tagging work. During this period, Betacommand and BetacommandBot have played an extremely significant role in enforcing the non-free content criteria and policies with respect to
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4) Perfection is not expected from editors, it being understood that everyone will occasionally make mistakes or misjudgments. However, an overall record of compliance with site policies and norms is expected, especially from regular contributors. Editors are expected to adhere to policy regardless
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2) Contributors to Knowledge (XXG) may benefit the project by participating in a variety of ways. Good-faith participation is welcome whether it comes in the form of editorial contributions, image contributions, wikignoming, bot and script writing and operation, policy design and implementation, or
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The committee's decision expressed the hope that Abu badali would work with users whose images he challenged in a patient, diplomatic, and collaborative way. Unfortunately, this dedicated user eventually tired of disputes with other editors—whose fault the disputes were is a moot point—and left the
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Switch to accept. Though I still think some of the issues here would be best left alone so that efforts at resolution already underway could continue (such as discussions about different users assuming some of the bot's current functions) the scope here has been steadily expanding over the last few
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I would like some clarification as to what these community actions to resolve the issue apparently are, because all I see is the creation of a separate bot by people friendly to betacommand in order to absolve him of any responsibility of explaining or communicating about the bot, or even worse, be
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Anyway - the problems here aren't that amenable to ArbCom intervention. The issues of Betacommand's conduct have been dealt with when extremes are hit, and that will continue to happen. Conduct by other individuals is not really at the ArbCom level. The policy issue is still a problem, but the time
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3) Editors are advised that periodic review of images and other media to ensure their compliance with the non-free content criteria may be necessary for policy, ethical, and sometimes legal reasons. Editors are invited to participate in policy discussions concerning this and related areas, and are
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decision, "an important role in safeguarding the free nature of the project and avoiding potential legal exposure." It is equally clear that Betacommand has, in performing his important tasks, sometimes failed to lived up to the ideal job description for an image patroller: there is a fair body of
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The attacks on BC neither excuse nor justify this behaviour. In any other bot editor, this sort of behaviour would long ago have led to an escalating series of blocks, and certainly to the removal of his bot flag. Now that the main task of tagging the backlog of non-free images is complete, it is
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Again, if it is not resolved, and remains a problem, then acceptance would be my choice. But you need to review RFAR a bit to realize that in most cases where actual communal discussion is (or seems to be) taking place, we (often don't/almost never) derail it. That's more usually for example, when
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close to impeding work on these issues, but I think that progress is still slowly being made. In addition, I would urge people reading this to help out with current work on non-free images, and to make productive contributions to discussions on how to move forward after the 23 March 2008 deadline.
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Only if the behaviour issues continue after these issues have been dealt with, or only if the behaviour issues impede discussion and resolution of these issues, will an arbitration case be needed. As can be seen above, I think that the behaviour issues and the resulting community furore are coming
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I think there are a number of problems in this area, but I'm not sure which of them can really be addressed through Arbitration. Maxim didn't really make a case for this above - more like, here's a problem, fix it! I'm not sure the remit of ArbCom is broad enough to allow them to take this case on
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4) The community, particularly including users with experience in image compliance and tagging work and those knowledgeable about bots and scripts, is urged to re-examine our policies and practices for reviewing, tagging, and where necessary deleting images in light of experience gained since the
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ArbCom decision, relating both to Betacommand himself and to his bot, which serves vital functions but often encounters technical issues. A complicating factor is that the same Betacommandbot is often used for non-image-related functions, some of which have been problematic. (I do not address the
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I suppose it's time for me to make a statement, as the request will now certainly be accepted. First, allow me to respond to Nick in regards to my being added to the case. I stand by the protection of that bot approval request, as I am not interested in seeing that forum being swamped by argument
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I waited to see what others would say, partly through interest, partly because of being blocked for daring to question betacommand anyway, and I see from the above comments I have been vindicated. It is obvious from the above evidence that I was not carrying out a campaign against betacommand. My
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3) Knowledge (XXG) users are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other users; to approach even difficult situations in a dignified fashion and with a constructive and collaborative outlook; and to avoid acting in a manner that brings the project into
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BCbot performs a huge number of edits, which inevitably magnifies any deficiencies. Unless such a hyperactive bot follows very high standards, the resulting problems are magnified by the sheer scale of the work done, causing massive community disruption. The community has shown itself unable to
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5.1) The Committee expects that the disputes and disruption underlying this case will cease as a result of this decision. In the event of non-compliance or a continued pattern of disputes, further review by the Committee may be sought after a reasonable time. In such a review, the Committee may
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should be tagged to show how they are lacking and the uploader(s) should be notified. Unless the non-compliance with policy is blatant and cannot be fixed, the uploader or any other interested editor should be provided with a reasonable amount of time (generally seven days under current policy)
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The proposed bot is going to be programmed by beta but operated by the members of BAG. There are complaints about it being a role account, however it has been stated that a log will be kept so people know which operator has run a specific task. Since it is only a clone of an existing bot, it is
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This is an unfair bundling of terms. If an editor opts out of receiving notices about NFCC images, why should they be debarred from objecting if the bot does something which they find problematic in relation to categories or wikiproject tags? Those tasks do not usually involve notifications to
977:. There has been consistent uncritical support of Betacommand with incivil attacks on those who criticise him or his work. This is not an exhaustive list, but of the people named (so far) as parties to this case, and if the case is accepted, I would present evidence concerning: the behaviour of
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A fair observation. Bear in mind, I've warned even obviously irredeemable virulent warriors more than once, on their way to a community ban, as well as drawing a firm line on conduct and using tools. If Betacommand's manner is fostered in large part by stress and short fuse generally (which is
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Betacommand's detractors sometimes allow their anger to morph into a "hang 'im high!" mentality that forces Betacommand and his supporters into even more of a "bunker mentality." I've tried to refrain from this, and stick to a "Betacommand needs to be far more civil" line, but I don't know for
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not be NFCC#10c compliant, as the bot does not detect the presence of a rationale, but only the absence of one of the requirements of a rationale - namely the name of the article the image is used in). The community should also be focusing its efforts on what the deadline means (will the image
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are also computer algorithms utilized to automate or semi-automate certain types of editing. These tools are extremely valuable for the purpose of facilitating the making of multiple edits that would be unduly time-consuming or tedious for a human editor to perform manually. Approval from the
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Last year, an image-patrol specialist usernamed Abu badali was brought before the Arbitration Committee because he was perceived as excessively zealous and confrontational in his dealings with image users. In its decision, the committee adopted a principle that I had proposed on the Workshop:
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Knowledge (XXG) aims to be a 💕, but many images that could be considered essential to explain and illustrate our articles are subject to copyright. Copyright law, by statute since 1979 in the United States and by statute or common law or the equivalent elsewhere in the world, permits limited
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Overall, my position remains that which I have been taking in the last few days (when the idea of an arbitration case has been floating around): not to file a request or open a case at this point in time. I think the community should instead focus its efforts on ensuring that by 23 March 2008
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To clarify my recusal... My barnstars were mainly awarded for the technical part of the job of Betacommand and his bot. That makes my position with regard to non-free content very clear (at least as an editor — which explains my recusal). It is as strict as my position concerning incivility,
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As AGK observes, the community is making progress on its own here. The only areas not being addressed are the history of attacks on Betacommand and the drama-mongering that has been known to take place from time to time when this issue arises, and at this point I don't think there has been a
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8) Editors who review images uploaded to Knowledge (XXG) and identify those that fail to satisfy the NFCC or are missing the necessary documentation play an important role in safeguarding the free nature of the project and avoiding potential legal exposure. However, image-tagging rules are
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has largely ground to a halt due to the large volume of images and the distraction of the community discussions over Betacommand and his bot. Though I recognise that it was my own choice to participate in the discussions rather than continue this work, I am sure that others involved in the
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within which to address the problem with the image. If the discrepancies are not resolved after a suitable time period the media may be deleted. Similarly, a non-free image may be removed from a particular page if it does not satisfy the NFCC with respect to its being used on that page.
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Betacommand must manually, carefully, individually review the changed content of each edit before it is made. Such review requires checking the actual content that will be saved, and verifying that the changes have not created any problems that a careful editor would be expected to
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I have some serious criticisms to make of Betacommand (BC), but I first want to stress that I have considerable sympathy for the situation in which BC finds himself, at the receiving end of a barrage of unjustified abuse from editors who object to image tagging. I have written a
1984:"We struggle with the balance between excess nonfree content on the one hand and sometimes excessively technical nonfree-content-policy enforcement on the other hand and excessive backlash against the volunteers who do the thankless job of policy enforcement on the third hand."
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evidence that he does not quite always "remain civil at all times, avoid biting the newcomers, and respond patiently and accurately to questions from the editors whose images they have challenged." These flaws are especially regrettable in light of the findings in last year's
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Switch to accept. The issues of communication and the way the bot does its work are serious enough to go through, and my judgment is that the community is unlikely to resolve them. This does not mean the 23 March deadline is lifted, nor that non-free media can be left alone.
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four, I wish you had brought that to my attention ten months ago when that happened, I would have been able to tell you what happened there. but given the amount of time that has passed it is difficult to pin it down. If a user brings an issue to me I gladly quickly address
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Betacommand is chronically incivil. There are many diffs scattered throughout this request showing this, but just in the past couple of days, he's called BrownHairedGirl a "dumbass" and a "dick" and called her good-faith actions "bullshit." This is not out-of-character at
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You know there's no prize for the longest post :) I think most of us are adopting the same strategy here, in that we'd prefer the community's efforts to resolve this dispute to continue, and hopefully succeed, but we'll certainly reconsider if the situation changes.
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to illustrate a point. (That's probably usually the case.) While a little more research and consideration may be desired of the anti-BCBot people, I think it's clear that most of the people listed above as parties have been responsible for brushes with the line of
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trolling of Betacommand, but it's not by any of the parties to this case. It's more of the "YOU'RE A !@#$ @#! JACKASS FOR TAGGING MY PICTURE OF MY GIRLFRIEND!!!! I @#!#$ $ #@! HATE YOU!!!!!" type, and not actually users who have a real, policy-based issue with
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had made, and he called her a "dick" and a "dumbass" among other pleasantries. Those insults are but the tip of the iceberg. If Giano is going to be put on "civility patrol", then perhaps something similar could result from this arbcom for Betacommand, but
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a block. Failure to comply with either of these restrictions will lead to a block of up to one week at the discretion of the blocking administrator. These restrictions are in place until the community decide that the remedies are no longer appropriate. —
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I will hold off on voting to accept this case in the hope that progress can be made, per my colleague FT2's posts above, in addressing many of the issues presented. I very much urge that Betacommand—and his critics—will take these points to heart.
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This brings us to the issue of Betacommand and Betacommandbot. It is clear that Betacommand is an energetic and dedicated patroller of images and plays a key role in the bot-assisted enforcement of our image policies. He plays, in the words of the
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In addition, the Bot Approvals Group and interested members of the community are urged to assess whether any changes to or updating of the BAG's operations and procedures may be warranted in light of issues raised in this case.
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also welcome to challenge the application of policies and criteria in individual cases, but are cautioned not to be abusive toward or make personal attacks against participants, including bot operators, engaged in this work.
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are testament to the extent to which a significant chunk of the community which strongly suupports the NFCC process has nonetheless lost confidence in BCbot. Everything else has been tried; only arbcom can resolve this mess.
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tools such as bots and scripts, or fails to respond appropriately to concerns from the community about their use over a period of time, may lose the privilege of using such tools or may have such privilege restricted.
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who are the foundation of the project's future growth, and respond patiently and accurately to questions from the editors whose images they have challenged or ensure that those questions are answered by others.
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to accept even in a contentious area such as fair-use policy and image-tagging, and must be brought to an end either via dramatically improved user conduct or via sanctions imposed by this committee.
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diminish or come under control. This is a serious problem and well attested but if it's perhaps going to be made moot (BC will only need to discuss with BAG trusted users) then no need to open a case.
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Well, that's my view of the situation. I think #1, #2, and #6 are the actionable points, in my opinion, and thus (even though it's not the timetable I would have chosen) this case should be accepted.
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guideline page and reverting users over his interpretation of the NFC guideline. Note preceding block (by Arthur Rubin) was undone by blocking admin, prior to latest resumption of edit-warring..
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reasonable request from a Wikipedian who has been an editor since September 2007. One realy does wonder why it is just apparently acceptable that betacommand does not need to reply?
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issue of Betacommand's declining to openly release his bot's source code; whether that should be required strikes me as a policy issue beyond the scope of arbitration.)
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users who have never posted anything resembling "attacks" on his page. BHGirl blocked him for demonstrable intransigence to a legitimate request to clean up a mess
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Many of the issues have been well-documented in other submissions, so I will expand only on one aspect of it this stage (more detailed evidence if case accepted).
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as requiring logging and documentation of tasks and setting standards for addressing problems) or by requiring the Bot Approvals Group to proactively enforce
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it performs too many tasks. This is obviously being worked on, with the new bot approval. Some actually argue that since it can't assess every point of
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this request, but three simply are abdicating to the "community" a responsibility that we, as a community, have already tried and failed to resolve.
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and wait at least 24 hours for community discussion. If there is any opposition, Betacommand must wait for a consensus supporting the request
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who are our communal experts. If multiple BAG members feel okay (they will see the code), then I personally would trust their view on this.
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deletion policy need changing?) and what to do after the deadline (how to continue to ensure compliance of non-free images with policy).
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for severe incivility in a discussion concerning NFC images. (from block log, 09:04, 28 July 2008) —
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sufficiently clear case presented in that respect. --
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and to work with BC to improve the bot's operations.
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Betacommand
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Issue (7) Decisions like these are reasonable ones.
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User talk:Betacommand/20081201#Consensus_on_proposal
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for what are essentially differences of philosophy.
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3278:) blocked 24 hours (18:43, November 23, 2008) by
1475:The problems which should be considered include:
944:Knowledge (XXG):Bots/BetaCommandBot and NFCC 10 c
3309:) blocked 24 hours (23:58, 08 November 2008) by
1588:resolve the problem, and the lengthy threads at
79:Once the case is closed, editors may add to the
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3225:) blocked 48 hours (12:16, 1 December 2008) by
2939:at ANI found that the block was not justified.
2864:) blocked 48 hours (19:10, 23 October 2011) by
2784:) blocked 60 hours (03:16, 9 November 2011) by
1485:Inadequate documentation of the bots operations
3341:) blocked 72 hours (09:53, 21 August 2008) by
2406:Role of editors who specialize in image review
1085:(and in particular the history of it, such as
3875:provisional suspension of their community ban
2485:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2469:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2441:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2431:Response of users whose images are questioned
2425:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2400:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2380:Passed 11 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
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2330:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2314:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2270:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2254:Passed 10 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
1637:That's fair enough, but the next bit is not:
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2757:Passed 8 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
2741:Passed 9 to 0 at 12:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC).
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1156:Betacommand takes these trolling comments
3282:for violating civility restrictions with
3187:) blocked 24 hours (10 December 2008) by
2798:) for violation of ArbCom motion enacted
3884:Passed 10-1 on 18:25, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
3239:) for clearly violating civility parole
1881:best addressed by users in the community
1861:raised amicably in a suitable discussion
1456:the operation of the Bot Approvals Group
962:User:Carcharoth/Image clean-up galleries
18:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration
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1822:arbitration is not an appropriate venue
1647:Knowledge (XXG):BOT#Dealing_with_issues
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883:Wikimedia Foundation's licensing policy
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3166:violation of special restrictions per
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1814:Current discussions may resolve issues
1491:Using his bot to attack another editor
1219:firm reminder that being trolled does
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2763:Log of blocks, bans, and restrictions
1879:that is a communal concern, probably
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1001:User:Non-Free Content Compliance Bot
902:User:Non-Free Content Compliance Bot
2175:Decline for the moment, per James.
1518:shows that BCbot is authorised for
1482:Running bots for unauthorised tasks
1479:Chronic incivility from Betacommand
936:Proposals for what to do afterwards
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2820:Block was expediently overturned.
1652:Attempts to raise this with BC at
1466:longer commentary on the situation
918:Discussions about the WMF deadline
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1200:A Brief Reply to FT2's Analysis:
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1522:Removing or renaming categories
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3857:Pursuant to the provisions of
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2386:Non-compliant non-free media
1441:Statement by BrownHairedGirl
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775:Requests for arbitration/10C
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3767:Community consensus placed
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2221:Temporary injunction (none)
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1044:as far as bot scanning goes
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1617:Another problem with BCbot
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1077:. In fact, that stage has
997:Bot approval policy issues
3871:non-free content criteria
3586:13:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
3555:00:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
3531:00:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
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2363:Non-free images and media
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1883:, not via this committee.
1873:not for new policy making
1865:I would consider evidence
1847:arbitration is not needed
1833:I would consider evidence
1781:02:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
1768:Reject, at least for now.
1318:19:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
1193:15:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
1111:08:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
1065:07:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
858:06:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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3778:Noticeboard discussion:
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3468:for edit warring on the
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3414:01:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
3315:this violation of WP:NPA
3053:02:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
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2447:Role of bots and scripts
2291:assumptions of bad faith
1303:Statement by MickMackNee
791:Statement by Betacommand
734:Non-free content crteria
51:Case amended (by motion)
3734:) (Per AN discussion:
3535:Shortened to 72 hours.
2566:Continued participation
2303:disruptive point-making
2231:All numbering based on
999:. The process by which
958:Work on non-free images
81:#Log of blocks and bans
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3464:) blocked 48 hours by
3431:) blocked 31 hours by
3388:) blocked 31 hours by
2652:Betacommand instructed
2539:Prior Arbitration case
1831:. If it does not then
1656:have had the response
1539:"per the decisions of
2260:Means of contributing
1757:Preliminary decisions
1658:"Dont like it? tough"
1537:That's very precise:
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3843:Amendments by motion
3769:editing restrictions
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3672:07:07, May 16, 2008
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2866:Tristessa de St Ange
2590:Problematic behavior
2417:biting the newcomers
2415:at all times, avoid
2003:biting the newcomers
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1382:And to make implied
1079:already been reached
1023:User:BrownHairedGirl
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873:My position is that
3865:(formerly known as
3795:Discussion located
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2462:Bot Approvals Group
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3757:Other restrictions
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2233:/Proposed decision
1561:evidence of that.
1510:Unauthorised tasks
1141:certain that I've
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2050:Newyorkbrad
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1829:may be moot
1690:Clerk note:
1451:Betacommand
1413:Clerk note:
1040:WP:NFCC#10c
686:protections
488:protections
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101:Betacommand
43:Case Closed
35:Case Opened
3859:Remedy 5.1
3826:uninvolved
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3320:Black Kite
2631:Disruption
2616:justified.
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2299:harassment
2287:incivility
2240:Principles
2020:Abu badali
1665:HairedGirl
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1390:MickMacNee
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1338:MickMacNee
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1263:Bellwether
1225:Bellwether
1177:Bellwether
1162:legitimate
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1103:Carcharoth
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650:block user
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398:page moves
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207:MickMacNee
184:page moves
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3509:User:Neil
3466:User:Neil
3288:Lankiveil
3284:this edit
3115:Kingpin13
3026:Lankiveil
2937:consensus
2884:Tristessa
2573:barnstars
1590:WP:ANI/BC
1213:something
692:deletions
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519:Badagnani
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142:block log
70:/Workshop
65:subpage.
63:/Evidence
3732:contribs
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2295:trolling
2181:Accept.
2126:James F.
2117:James F.
1958:Comments
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1904:FayssalF
1871:... but
1736:WP:CIVIL
1673:contribs
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950:and the
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807:User:Lar
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3818:detect.
3674:MBisanz
3437:WP:3RRs
2831:anguard
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2457:Scripts
2276:Decorum
1724:WP:NFCC
3851:motion
3812:before
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3583:(talk)
3505:1 week
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3444:(talk)
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2191:Accept
2183:Kirill
2177:Kirill
2129:(talk)
2120:(talk)
2094:bainer
1943:Accept
1899:Recuse
1788:bainer
1773:bainer
1749:(st47)
1743:ʎʇɹnoɟ
1699:Daniel
1669:(talk)
1602:(talk)
1582:WP:BOT
1567:WP:BOT
1554:WP:CFD
1541:WP:CFD
1526:WP:CFD
1501:unless
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2549:May 3
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1999:civil
1948:Co.,
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1089:and
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