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Even if the writing does not persist or stand over the long term, its usually an incremental improvement that guides subsequent edits. I do use sources, but I do not parrot them. Among Knowledge's paradoxes is the issue that that writing for Knowledge requires us to be creative and original, and not simply plagiarists. So though certain writing may be well sourced, it may be the case that such writing lacks coherence (and sometimes even competence). Sometimes we find that writing from sources shows a kind of parroting - copied phrasings from published sources without coherent focus. And parroted writing, though it may be sourced, is often unsatisfactory for reasons just as legitimate as rules against non-sourcing. When Jim and Steve edited the punishment article, their "sourced" writing was cobbled together with parroted sections that did not add up to a coherent introduction (See my breakdown at
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article again, and JimWae and came back to the article. Because I had made an effort to include the previous changes in my edited version Jim and I edited collaboratively for most of a day. Steve came by to add some commentary on the talk page. When I took issue with one of Jim's changes, Steve lost his temper and reverted the article back to a previous version. Instead of edit warring, I made an audio recording (right box, or
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A big part of the reason why it's so difficult and so frustrating to resolve issues with Stevertigo through discussion is that he is usually dismissive of others' concerns. He's willing to discuss, but discussions go nowhere because he's not willing to consider changes to his behavior, even when the
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Steve Quinn filed an ANI, at which other editors have chimed in - people whom I havent' had interactions with in months or years, and who still hold the grudge that previous cases did not find in their favor regarding me. To a fair eye, its clearly a case where bitter contestants are trying to finish
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Note, Steve Quinn and Jim Wae both have claimed at the ANI that I did not use sources and that their writing was superior simply because it did. I have edited the lead sections of hundreds of articles, always writing with focus on the definition - as given by a dictionary or other definitive source.
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When editors address what they see as problem behavior repeated across articles, Stevertigo takes this as harassment and does not accept the possibility that they may have a valid point. In particular, Stevertigo's changes to the leads of many articles have failed to win support from other editors
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article - where my previous attempts to make changes to that article were negated by a wall of science-oriented editors with a fixation on writing taxonomically about human beings, such that not even the word "person" was mentioned. This is a continuing problem - human beings are not just a species
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The sections below are intended to show specific examples in which it has been unreasonably difficult to resolve issues with Stevertigo through discussion, specifically in the use of edit summaries, the minor edit flag, and insertion of unsourced and sometimes nonsensical material into the lead of
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pp. 60, "Those who have wanted to draw a single sharp line between human and nonhuman animals have commonly laid emphasis upon the presence or absence of language as such, the ability to use and to respond to strings of syntactically ordered and semantically significant expressions whose utterance
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Timeline: After an initial battle at that article, I left it alone in the state that Jim and Steve wanted it. I notified Steve Quinn several times on his talk page of problems with his version, and he said that his participation at that article was ended. After waiting for some time, I edited the
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I closed the MedCab case as the parties did not agree to mediate (one considered the dispute dated). It is a shame that there are not enough editors aware of MedCab to step up and clear these backlogs when they arise. This evidence for historical information only - I have not, and will not do any
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Over the years, prior remedies appear to have had little impact on this editor's contrary, and problematic editing. Now in October 2010, these disruptive editing patterns are still problematic. It is my hope and intention that the ArbCom committee read the remedies listed, and use this lens when
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me via my edit history, taking an interest in my editing and not necessarily the subject matter. This is the essential point - they did not arrive at the punishment article due to interest in that article, but they did so due to an undue interest in my editing. Thus their editing of that article
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and reproduced with its references below. I have analyzed the references below. I realize this may steer into having the Committee rule on content, but there are some very clear instances of abuse of sources, and I believe they illustrate one of the issues with Stevertigo's editing. (I have
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into wp articles. People did not check his edit history because they were losing arguments, involved in revert-wars, or had anything against Stevertigo. They checked his edit history & reverted his edits on other articles because they became concerned about of his blatant employment of
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All his shortcuts to his single editor essays should be deleted. Without endorsement that his essays are a {{supplement}} to WP guidelines & policies, his single editor essays should be considered for removal to his user space. I also think we should consider creation & usage of
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and there are limits to the success one can have if writing that way. Only one editor was reasonable and tried to integrate some of what I wrote into the lede of the article. But it took writing an entire page - what looked much like a rewrite - to see even this small change happen. -
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
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Stevertigo is a dedicated and intelligent editor who performs much useful work and has done so for a commendable number of years. He also has some idiosyncracies that cause difficulty for other editors, and it often seems frustratingly difficult to get a point through to him.
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pp. 60, "But this is insufficient for human rationality, What is needed in addition is the ability to construct sentences that contain as constituents either the sentences use to express the judgment about which the agent is reflecting, or references to those sentences." and
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Though it is not actually true, templates and shortcuts do still convey to most readers (and editors) that these have community endorsement because they form part of the structure of wikipedia. Stevertigo has used his shortcuts and templates in his arguments with other
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
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for all actions of an editor (as those will have changed by the time people click on your links), although a link to a log for a specific article or a specific block log can be useful. Please make sure any page section links are permanent. See
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In the sections I posted above regarding edit summaries and minor edits, the problems with Stevertigo's editing were politely brought to his attention by multiple editors over several years. These concerns have generally been ignored
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It is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff in question, or to a short page section; links to the page itself are insufficient. Never link to a
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harassment, when it is matched with an adversarial tactics of reverting wholesale any changes I made. They didn't have any actual interest in the topic of punishment itself and they issue of my editing was not of their
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article, see diffs above), but he takes this as a sign that other editors have a personal grudge against him, and refuses to consider the possibility that his edits aren't accepted because of the quality of the edits
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on Google Books. The quotations are correct, but I don't see how they support the statement in the article, which concerns the believes of a large portion of the current world population, not medieval philosophy.
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This is generally supported by the sources; one criticism (more subtle and subjective than with those above) is that S's text doesn't seem to reflect the general direction of the sources; according to a review
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generally uncontroversial, but neither reference actually says this: the first is a taxonomic listing that doesn't address ancestry, and the second is only concerned with relationships within our species.
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that it is an agent that "acts upon a physical object" is too speculative to not be at least attributed to some scholar, somewhere in the article. This appears to be nothing but POV original research}}
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When his rewrites of article leads are opposed, Stevertigo has insisted that others editors must address problems with his versions by trying to patch them up, rather than contesting them altogether
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In his initial statement upon filing the request for this arbitration case, he similarly characterized several editors' concern with his editing patterns across articles as stalking:
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me through my edit history, following me from the time article to the punishment article, and then taking a stand against my editing as if they had previously edited the article.
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focussed on whether "physical paradigm" or "physical phenomenon" would be more acceptable - when neither of those had any sources either. Nevertheless. he chose to change to
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Not without irony - applying the disruptive editing guideline, to revert the part that was removed from the disruptive editing guidelines, (possibly by a disruptive editor?)
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suffered from a lack of cohesion that editors of actual interest would naturally have, hence I was opposed to certain edits they made to the article. This was our dispute.
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Several editors have politely asked SV to make more consistent use of edit summaries over the years, but the response has often been dismissive or occasionally hostile.
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was already on my watchlist. While I cannot prove this, I can produce jpgs of the Philosophy of Education books I have owned for over 30 years. I have added (to the
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what they started in years previous. To decide for yourself if my editing is "disruptive" (a euphemism for "trolling") see examples of my recent work (for example
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SV often makes series of edits to established articles, with inadequate summaries. These often include more or less complete re-writes of the lede. Example:
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Prior remedies have not dissuaded engagement in years-long, controversial editing practices, which are in contradiction to Knowledge guidelines and policies.
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Misattributed ANI participant's' motivations, without supporting evidence, rather than focusing on issues of editing according to guidelines and policies.
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the rule of bold, revert, discuss, not bold, revert revert; numerous problems including OR, Easter egg link, and making a sentence say something different
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In other words, the remedies have not made enough of an impact to alter an overall problematic editing style. The editing practices are described below:
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I made my first edit to the Punishment article, inserting {{unreferenced|date=August 2010}} which I then restored to {{unreferenced|date=January 2008}}
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article. I will acknowledge that I checked his edit history - as I think any conscientious editor would after encountering such repeated insertion of
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Stevertigo had made more changes to the lede - repeatedly re-inserting "destructive", and again removing tags indicating content was unreferenced OR.
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Stevertigo has published several essays in wikipedia space which nobody else has worked on. These essays frequently present arguments at odds with
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as a replacement for the "matter itself does not exist" phrase, but it's not clear why, since dark matter is not specific to cosmological scales.
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Just completed ANI, October 5, 2010: subject to a community imposed edit restriction of 1 revert per article per week, with indefinite duration;
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It appears that 3RR violations (see above) are no longer an issue, but there appears to be an inability to effectively confer on articles.
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he appropriated a ref that did not support the view that "time is a physical process" or that "it macroscopically transforms reality"
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In this Remedies section it is demonstrated the problematic editing spans years. Some prior remedies have resulted in sanctions:
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What it "likely is" is completely unsubstantiated AND never discussed in the article - so it does not belong in the lede. 3: -->
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It appears that he's even dismissive of the arbitration clerk's request to post in the proper place in the arbitration pages:
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Besides the {{Nonce}} he created to "enforce" his NONCE essay, Stevertigo has created numerous shortcuts to his own essays:
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Prior ArbCom case, August 15, 2005 & October 30, 2005; Admin powers removed, and block supported for 3RR violation.
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Misapplication of BRD (as an excuse) for first inserting unsourced OR, and then engaging in edit conflicts, to keep it
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viewing the editing behaviors. The evidence presented is designed to be emblematic, rather than complete. ----
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article - an argument that I largely won (Time now has a general introductory sentence) (discussion starts at
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utterly unreliable source, but doesn't even talk about "higher and lower organisms", only about intelligence
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plus one that was significantly altered from Stevertigo's POV, and is now no longer expresses opposition to
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constitutes speech acts. But this is insuficient for human rationality. What is needed in addition.." and
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Another confluence of words without any clear meaning at all, "ubiquitous mass-gravitational phenomenon"
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Many page moves made as minor edits. A few more recent examples are given here. Some are uncontested:
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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Create your own section and
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He restores his unsourced OR because he left a comment on the talk page, not because of consensus.
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Stevertigo has published several essays in wikipedia space which nobody else has worked on....
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The current issue is largely between Steve Quinn, Jim Wae and I, centered largely at the
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Stevertigo engages in personal attacks in response to resistance to his insertion of OR
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on Vietnam War, reverted eleven times to his preferred version, blocked for 48 hours
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source says nothing of the kind (though again, the statement is uncontroversial)
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he changed the lede of Time to refer to a paradigm. Stevertigo does not mention
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which carries over to the talk pages discussions, but is not limited to those.
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before using the last evidence template, please make a copy for the next person
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in which context the credit for human origins and human capacity is given to a
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after having been repeatedly requested to stop doing this over several years.
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Acknowledges having been "a 'problematic editor' for some eight years now..."
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At this point, other editors became involved, reverting Stevertigo's changes
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Prior ANI, January 21, 2009 3RR vio reported, Stevertigo continues to revert
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Stevertigo has written numerous essays for which the content is solely his:
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Stevertigo opposes providing reliable sources for his "conceptualizations"
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in nature). Hence though time may be a key aspect within the study of
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Evidence presented by Hipocrite as MedCab mediator in the Time dispute
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and physical interactions, it has generally been treated as a single
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arb clerks are asking him to observe proper use of the case pages.
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are illustrative. The first of his recent edits was 2010-Jun-15
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Stevertigo's claim that I am wikihounding him has no basis in fact
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so that other people would contribute their input on the dispute.
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Stevertigo repeatedly inserts original research into article ledes
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article, which became an Arbcom case and resulted in desyopping:
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Stevertigo is dismissive of others' concerns about his editing
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hardly supports S's "transcendent of all animalia" assertion.
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The ANI, near its end, was summed up by an uninvolved-Admin
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referendum on editing, and claims of disruptive editing
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Index

Knowledge:Arbitration
Requests
Case
Stevertigo 2
Main case page
Talk
Evidence
Talk
Workshop
Talk
Proposed decision
Talk
NuclearWarfare
Talk
AlexandrDmitri
Talk
Kirill Lokshin
Talk
SirFozzie
Talk
Knowledge Arbitration

About arbitration
Talk
Arbitration policy
(CU/OS)
Guide to arbitration
Noticeboard

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