3087:. One would assume the persons filing the RFC, Bob thefish and Qwyrxian, would be the ones to answer these questions, which were designed to help Tenmei understand what he had specifically done wrong and how to avoid repeating his mistakes. At the time the questions were posted, neither of them had edited the RFC in ten days. Neither of them offered any answers to those questions or in fact ever edited the RFC again. After 23 days of no edits by anyone besides Tenmei, I elected to close the RFC, as it seemed clear that the filing parties had given up on trying to come to any voluntary decision.
1130:. That dispute eventually faded away because, I suspect, the involved editors found better things to do. I believe one or two of the more troublesome editors were banned for edit warring, which probably helped out a lot. Nevertheless, in this case, I suggest flushing out the editors who are fighting a little too hard over the article's content, so that editors who don't have as emotional a stake in the outcome can help shape the article into a stable, reasonably NPOV version.
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articles; this really serves as proof that SI isn't exactly an NPOV name either. That's exactly why I've been asking the question "Can we use the same compromise as in
Liancourt Rocks; i.e. find a neutral, English name?" I know that the situation may be different, but it serves as a good place to start. Also, another point: we may need clarification on how to work the naming conventions within policy, which I hope the arbitrators will take a look at.
504:; posting evidence longer than 500 words will not help you make your point. Over-long evidence that is not exceptionally easy to understand (like tables) will be trimmed to size or, in extreme cases, simply removed by the Clerks without warning - this could result in your important points being lost, so don't let it happen. Stay focused on the issues raised in the initial statements and on diffs which illustrate relevant behavior.
1548:. Qwyrxian also joined in to game the system in Tenmei's favour. He argued Tenmei shouldn’t be blocked because the latter declared a wiki-break and that blocks should not be used as punishment. I argued the block should be enforced to avoid systems to be gamed and to serve as a preventative measure. This matter was eventually closed because it was going nowhere. Shortly after, Tenmei immediately cancelled wiki-break
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2349:. Senkaku Shoto is the BGN's approved name too. I don't understand why they deny SI only nor why they keep on saying SI should be moved to the least common, almost obsolete name. Probably because of "any name but Senkaku". In other WPs, PI is used only in Tagalog and all the other WPs use Senkaku except Chinese languages.
1032:, I also believe that this full protection is like another unbalanced enforcement of rules because now only one user (Tenmei) had violated the rule and the admin would have only needed to block this user alone but no need to prevent all other innocent users from editing the page by faithfully obeying the sanction. --
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be removed after mediation. He seems to want the article permanently tagged until the title is changed. He has also created edit wars by repeatedly reinserting a NPOV tag. He keeps claiming that removing the NPOV tag will start an edit war, yet he himself is largely to blame for edit warring by reinserting it
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consisted of rants about political correctness and racism, insults of other people ("allegedly-smart", "trolling"), and some admissions regarding how he wouldn't have reacted in such a way had the subject been a different person (i.e. not me). He later refused to apologize/discuss the matter, claimed
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Arbitration so far exemplifies the problems xe has in the SI articles. Tenmei's writing style is obscure and filled with links to quotations and cliches, "dispute resolution tables", and graphics that don't help the process. Furthermore, as xe did on the Proposals page, xe often
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Chinese bias, but I do not think this article belongs at the name Diaoyu(tai) (Islands) because we'd have the same exact argument like the one we are having right now. Like I've said on the article talk page - media outlets have tried to avoid this argument by naming both names in
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Tenmei's inability to express xyrself in simple, concise ways is disruptive, because it compels editors who care to spend an inordinate amount of time deciphering his message. Sometimes these long messages come off as attacking and uncivil. Tenmei has previously been warned about this by Arbcom, in
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Notably, before the event even occurred, I'd already been expecting for Bob to pick a fight sooner or later in an attempt to delegitimize me. I was proven magnificently correct. It's difficult to believe it was an organic thought process (and not an opportunity to pick a fight) given how quickly it
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Lvhis is not the main source of the trouble, but he has caused problems over his insistance that the relevant articles be tagged NPOV. It was disappointing that after I and some other users agreed to add an NPOV tag to the relevant article(s) as part of mediation, he declined to agree that it could
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Senkaku related. He was away from WP from March 8 to May 25 when the articles were protected. Again in
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during a
Wikiquette alert posting, Bob does not seem to think that it is important to consider how people might react to what he writes. I would draw attention to Qwyxian's collapsed comment in the above link, as well as Bob's inability to recognise he has done anything wrong. Bob has a point of
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Even though the evidence of his opponents were shown to be diverse sets of manually verified samples of reliable literature sources taken from multiple respected repositories of information (i.e. Google
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on the article talk page since the article was locked down. Tenmei gave a response in which he promoted use of more sources for that section. My request and his suggestions appear to have been ignored. STSC and PalaceGuard008's edits to the text I added were, in my opinion, not very helpful.
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A key issue for the pages in question is which name is from which language. I have repeatedly shown that there are
Reliable Sources (two of them from Japanese authors to avoid POV) confirming "Pinnacle Islands" is the real English name while the current name "Senkaku" used for the pages is the
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filed against him failed to improve the situation because xe was unwilling to consider xyr behavior to be a problem. Things became worse after
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carries this name). Government possession appears to be a crucial factor in deciding the name given to groups of islands. Editors who dispute this too strongly give the impression that they are trying to reclaim the islands on behalf of the government which claims previous ownership.
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While I certainly see the need to do something about this prolonged dispute and I acknowledge that Tenmei's style of communication is sometimes problematic, I would ask the committee members to consider these facts while you decide whether to throw Tenmei off the project or not.
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
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for all actions of an editor (as those will have changed by the time people click on your links), although a link to a log for a specific article or a specific block log can be useful. Please make sure any page section links are permanent. See
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1309:. Sadly, the combination of Tenmei's inability to get his point across on talk, along with his conviction that every edit he makes is "pro-Knowledge", renders his presence on these articles a net negative.
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tag that was placed (and removed) by Feezo in an attempt to mediate the case, as by virtue of the discussion at the talk page, I felt the tag should have been in place.
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search results. Instead, he stubbornly wanted undue weight to be given to his small encyclopedia/almanacs that he hand-sampled from his local library.
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of Wiki contributions can reveal a great deal of revert actions.
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Nonsensical reasoning by Qwyrxian that has prolonged the dispute
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of his contributions are to articles. Not including mediation.
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Talk:Senkaku_Islands_dispute/Archive 5#BRD_cycle,_crystal_clear
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John Smith's insisting to remove "Japan lost the war in 1945"
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B. Lvhis added words and other citations were moved, e.g.,
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2766:- I have observed nothing but exemplary behavior from him.
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I didn’t hear that the Liancourt Rocks was the common name
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at zh WP and was told “dual name title is too long”.
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when he was elected new admin though I made my firm
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would improve himself and help to solve this dispute
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Create your own section to provide evidence in, and
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2405:Bob pretends to be funny but causes disruption. As
1682:"censure of the bad apples would be quite helpful."
985:) but also by user Qwyrxian's cooperative "revert"
737:He is responsible for a number of major edit-wars:
658:diff no. 73: I just expressed my view based on the
2508:Refusing to take discussion off Feezo's talk page
2476:) and for which I received no disapproval at ANI (
1954:More than one ball in the air at the same time.
1184:Bobthefish2 has long had a battlefield mentality (
1073:A response to Evidence presented by Magog the Ogre
2082:thwarted the delicate evolving collaboration. He
652:diff no. 71 & 72: The arguement was based on
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1307:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty
1288:Failure to understand xyr style isn't working:
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682:"simply because you don't agree with the name"
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2575:(I highly request and suggest you read it).
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2084:"snatched defeat from the jaws of victory"
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2556:Re: block of Lvhis/non-block of Tenmei
2521:Reference to editors' mental stability
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3106:Evidence presented by {your user name}
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1933:what is causing people to behave badly
1680:is reflected by Magog who argues that
1526:Gamed the system (See Magog_the_Ogre).
1332:). STSC treats the subject as a war (
1283:Talk:Senkaku Islands dispute/Archive 1
642:diff no. 52: The should have been .
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2788:) , but I am only showing one issue.
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2121:2010 Senkaku boat collision incident
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705:She frequently abused the use of
480:do not edit anyone else's section
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