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740:. There are many reasons why a street may find itself on countless websites, all without a single source that can establish its notability. These include one or more houses being for sale on that street, leading to addresses being mentioned on real estate sites. A resident on a side street could be operating a business out of their house, all with the address named. Not to mention, there could be a non-notable shopping center with non-notable businesses on that street. The bottom line is, the Google search itself could be a useful tool to find sources, but is not a notability establisher. 24: 87: 560:
There are various reasons why a road has (or lacks) certain features, such as multiple lanes, certain types of dividers, etc. Nevertheless, these features are not references. It is the jurisdiction in charge of a road that has its own standards as to how to build each road, and it has no correlation
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Neighborhoods generally are not legally defined areas. They are informally named communities that often do not have official boundaries and in some cases overlap. Those meeting the general notability guideline can have articles. But some communities are named only by word of mouth or for commercial
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Each map publisher has its own standards that determine which streets and roads are included and which ones not, and for those they include, which ones are thicker or thinner or colored a certain way. In no way does this correlate with the number of published sources that can be found on that road
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A busy street in a major city is by far more likely to have published sources than the cul de sac in some far-out suburb. But it is not assured. If you write an article saying nothing more than "It is a major street that runs through the downtown area of ," you are not providing any information
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Several attempts have been made in the past to establish separate guidelines for the notability of populated places, streets, roads, highways, and other geographic-related subjects. To this date, none have been accepted. As a result, geographic-related articles are still bound by the
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reliable sources, and the lack of population does not show the absence of sources. Books and article will not get published automatically just because people move in, and there may actually be quite a lot of writing about a historic town that no longer exists.
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When a place- or transportation-related article is up for deletion, there are many factors that may make the subject seem notable or not, but they have no connection to the number of published sources that provide significant amounts of information on the
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for the reason why), we cannot use a number such as the length of the road to determine which roads are included or not. It is very possible for a very short street to be notable, especially one in a major city that has some well-known history behind it.
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get attention from far beyond their hometowns, though this is not a requirement. Many communities, streets, and roads, especially those with histories, have been written about in great detail in published sources, and are therefore notable.
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Neighborhoods generally have no official legal definition, and often have no exact boundaries, but are informal names for communities. Still, they can meet the general notability guideline by having coverage in multiple reliable sources.
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The length of a road is not a source of information for the road, the type that brings about notability. Since we already know not all roads can have an article based on the fact they are shown in every map (see
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Actually, notability is not inherited. Unless there is sourced information beyond the rudimentary details that can be printed in a short list or chart, there should not be a standalone article on that subject.
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Levels of sourcing vary from one road, bus system, etc. to the next. While there could be dozens of books written on one, there could be nothing but common detailed maps on another.
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When a news event occurs on a street and that street is mentioned, the article is primarily on the event, not the street, and in accordance with the
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where these can be found. It is quite common for these to face various arguments to be kept or deleted, regardless of what the guidelines state.
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Likewise, each city varies in how many streets it'll have in which articles can be written. In the past, there was an essay written called
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge (XXG) contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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Splatter Road has been the site of 3 homicides in the past 10 years that have all received news coverage mentioning this location –
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A notable landmark with an article is located on this street, and that article mentions it is on this street –
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There is an article on this railroad, so therefore there should be an article on every stop along the track –
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Very frequently, geographic-related subjects find themselves at AfD. There is even a category of AfD called
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Why have an article on King Street? Only those living in Libertyville are familiar with it. –
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A small town, suburb, or village or a neighborhood, street or road within is by definition a
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different from what the naked eye and the map can provide. This is no different from a pure
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This city has already exceeded its quota for the number of streets with articles –
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London has articles on all of its individual bus routes, so should Marshallville –
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Is so unimportant, it is not shown on folding maps that do not have full detail –
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that would determine its compliance with the general notability guideline.
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in the number of notable streets per resident from one city to the next.
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Google the name of this street and you will get over two million hits –
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Bus Number 27 is reported as being in 4 accidents in the past year –
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There is an apartment complex bearing the name of this neighborhood –
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This map shows this street in a line much bolder than all the rest –
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Has a greater population than many other places that have articles –
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reasons. All too often, there will be no published sources on these.
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Has a concrete median strip and multiple lanes in each direction –
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Only 50 people live there. Obviously not a very important place. –
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There is an annual festival bearing the name of this community –
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The number of GHits is not by any means a measure of notability
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Because this area has this name, so do many local businesses –
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Is found within a central business district of a major city –
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Is found in most undetailed maps that show only main roads –
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This is a road half the people in this city want built –
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Knowledge (XXG) is not a place to foretell future events
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Only those living in Columbia have heard of Lakeville
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Construction on this development has already begun –
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This neighborhood is not shown on any maps at all –
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Knowledge (XXG)'s policies or guidelines
thoroughly vetted by the community
Shortcuts
WP:ATAPT
WP:ATAPTDD
Knowledge (XXG) discussions
Deletion discussions
Deletion reviews
Adminship discussions
Edit wars
Feature discussions
Place/transportation deletion
File deletion discussions
Template deletion discussions
On discussion pages
Subjective importance
But there must be sources!
Arguments to make in deletion discussions
How to save an article nominated for deletion
Policies and guidelines to cite in deletion debates
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inherently notable
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common arguments to avoid in deletion discussions

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