398:- this article , dated more than 3 months after the initial coverage died down, cites the event as one in a series of attacks that caused the Israeli government to reverse a long-standing policy of refraining from executing house demolitions, and renew them in Jerusalem ("This is the first demolition carried out by the IDF on the home of a terrorist in East Jerusalem...Netanyahu gave the order to demolish the homes of the terrorists involved in the attack. Similar orders were given following other attacks that took place recently, but were not executed,")
606:(sports). Saying that it is "trash" reveals that you are clueless abut Israel Hayaom, and probably not fully aware of the requirements for reliable sources. It is false that it was found as non-RS. There is certainly a large contingent of editors going around claiming that Arutz 7 is not reliable, because it presents the viewpoint of a certain segment of Israeli society whose politics they don't like, but there has never been a policy-based determination at
543:(do you know how many e-magazines exist in India?). I have no idea what that magazine is and what its editorial policies are. The telegraph source is fine, but it is again a very brief and passing mention, together with 11 other attacks. I notice that he has not mentioned any other source in 2015, probably because he couldn't find any. I would be happy to be proved wrong. The brief and trivial mention is the opposite of a
482:, the family members of the the murdering terrorist are actually suing the Israeli police for damages, with a bizarre theory that he was killed for no reason, and that subsequently his dead body managed to work the controls of the tractor and to flip the bus over, and this case wound its way to the Israeli supreme court, resulting in multiple stories in the Israeli press and international Jewish press, for example:
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Your comments would carry more weight if you used a little less hyperbole and a lot more accuracy in making them. Governance Now is not just an e-Magazine, but a bi-weekly print magazine. The article I found on-line was also published in the
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both of these are months after the initial coverage has died down, and both cite this event as a case study, in two different articles devoted to the phenomena of terrorism by Arab residents of Israel who have greater freedom of movement and easier access to both 'weapons' and targets as a result of
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I reject many of your arguments, however, the angle about resumption of house demolition as a result of this (and other) attacks is persuasive. I did not know about this, nor is it present in the article, but your sources about this, together with an
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requires. They subsequently covered other aspects of this case - such as the court action undertaken by the terrorist's family, or the destruction of their home, something you somehow overlooked. This article clearly and unambiguously meets and exceeds
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This article has been nominated twice (the last time by a sock), and both times it was "no consensus". The early noms were both close to the date of the attack. Now that a year has passed, we can judge the matter more easily. The arguments based on
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into a common article (or articles by year). There is nothing specific that warrants in individual article, and, besides the detail of incident, they are rather repetitive: "Netaniahu said this", there were 360 more attacks, etc. etc. For example
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Secondly, many of his sources are trash. IsraelHayom.com and IsraelNationalNews.com (Arutz Sheva) have been repeatedly rejected as non-RS in this area. I have no idea what
WinstonIsraelNews.com, or Brabosh.com are, but they are certainly not
630:- all unquestionably reliable sources. They covered the event months after initial coverage died down and used it as a case study for showing trends (terrorism by Israeli ID-carrying Arabs) or phenomena (lone wolf terrorism), exactly as
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Brad Dyer's comments unfortunately do not add up to his conclusion. Congratulations to him in finding a single trivial and brief mention in report in a random Indian e-magazine, but that does not translate to
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