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standard than the MSM. We note that the noteriety caused by these missionary trainees' alegations, owing to their having received full- article or news segment treatments in a half-dozen additional US-based religion-themed periodicals, a dozen regional or city newspapers and broadcast news outlets in
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be, owing it would seem a long-term practice of Knowledge's considering presidents of accredited 4-year higher-learning institutions automatically notable. And should this end up being the case, all bets must be off again w rgd no mention being given these allegations against him--because obviously
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The problem here is that the allegations are all directed against one person (Joseph Bishop). There are two people who have made allegations against Bishop, although the exact nature of the allegations by the second person is less than clear. At least this title goes against not news guidelines.
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ID, AZ and UT, as well as in the NYT, WaPo, FNC, HuffPo, USNews&WorldRpt, and other various national US news publications, those in the UK and elsewhere, and that in the US, accusations such as these render the accused an inadvertent
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Comment: For some reason I thought this was eligible to close. It hasn't been 7 days, and I had no intent to close this early. I've reverted myself and will leave this for someone else at the appropriate time.
546:"The religion this week announced updated guidelines for the reporting of sexual abuse following news that a former prominent missionary leader was accused of sexually assaulting two women in the 1980s."--- 526:"a woman's accusation that a former president of the Missionary Training Center named Joseph Bishop raped her while she was a missionary at the Provo complex in 1984 and molested another missionary."--- 81: 158: 527: 281:
and should be removed. Furthemore, the allegations, if proven, may be abhorrent but they are not uncommon so of themselves do not meet the criteria for an article. The LDS church connection
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There may be something about the allegations against Bishop. However until there are allegations against anyone except Bishop the article is misnamed.
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make this more notable but in which case the encyclopaedic approach would be to examine the effect on, and response of, the church itself within e.g.
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places a prohibition on mentioning mere allegations of improprieties en toto...this would be within regard to non-public figures, since
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after the section on the allegations within the parent article was substantially expanded. The subject is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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clearly says that when such allegations have received plenty of coverage they in fact
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March 31 (i.e., yesterday) piece from the AP (link)
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