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reliable sources. Aside from sales/retrospectives in 1967 and 1969 that yielded thin catalogues, there is surprisingly little information on the artist, especially one who consorted with well-known figures. I checked newspapers.com, hathitrust.org, and archive.org in a search for print sources without success. If anyone has better luck I might change my vote.
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and it's kind of sad to vote this way. The artist has an entry in
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is a good indication that he was not "just an average person who liked to paint". Hôtel Drouot is the
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Non-notable artist, who's life is hard to piece together from scant sources. If you can't find anything about him, he isn't notable. Did he appear in a salon or feature in any art galleries? If not, he's just an average person who liked to paint.
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