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shows that the article should be kept, but some of the characters do appear to have significant independent coverage and may be legitimate articles. This should be closed and the articles should be relisted for individual consideration, if appropriate.
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all of these characters are significant and deserve their own pages, for is enough information for all of them, except Robert Lipton. His article should be deleted. He is a minor recurring character. But the rest of the pages should NOT be
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Tthere are multiple explained votes to redirect, there are a multiple unjustified votes offering no explanation for keeping, the consensus would seem clear in this case. An admin is smart enough to not delete the ones genuinely opposed.
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Because why? Why? Is it so hard to justify notability? They're not "significant" just because. Nor are they significant because enough of their actions have been recounted in excessive plot form.
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Well I thought we were talking about Kathy Simms. Who seems even less notable than
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