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857:, you have been advised already to stop bringing up Ginger Alden's article in this discussion and now I'm saying it a second time. The fact that this article was deleted has no effect on whether or not the article on Anita Wood is kept or deleted which will rest on its own merits. We don't compare articles in AFDs and there is no official precedence. Please critique the sources and not the subject and do not BLUDGEON the discussion and comment on every argument you disagree with. You nominated the article, have put forth your point of view and now it's time to hear from other editors. Repeating your view over and over again will not convince anyone to agree with you, it will just irritate people. Thank you. 884:(or simply a bulleted list summarizing your view of each source if you're unable to work through the table coding). I for one, am curious to see a thorough analysis of all of the sources, and might be persuaded to !vote delete (I only nominated this as a clerical courtesy and haven't yet taken an official stance on the subject's notability), because from a cursory glance I've seen at least three or four sources that are disqualified from notability for various reasons, and 836:
noticed when similar pages were being scrubbed. It has to be pointed out that Marco Garibaldi, June Juanico and Danny Keough all formerly had Wiki entries as well. And all were deleted on the same grounds: no notability outside their connection to Elvis. So to argue that this page should be kept is like saying Mary-Kate Olsen deserves a Wiki entry but Ashley Olsen doesn't.
917:) in Waco, Texas. He is well known for his close friendship with Elvis. According to Eddie, everyone believed Elvis and Anita would marry, and were really surprised when Elvis married someone else. There are images in many Elvis bios, where Elvis and Anita were spending time in Eddie's house. Graceland has often hired Eddie for fan gatherings at Graceland. 935:
So what? It doesn't constitute notability. There is no reason for Anita to have a Knowledge page. If she has one then Ginger Alden's deleted page should be restored. For that matter, Danny Keough and Marco Garibaldi's deleted pages should be restored. Then what....a Knowledge page for Currie Grant?
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the same reason: that they dated Elvis. Unlike Linda for instance, neither woman has any notability outside their connection to him. And Ginger was unquestionably more significant in terms of coverage. So if Ginger's page got deleted, the standard should be upheld. Anita's page simply failed to get
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so again, these do not demonstrate notability. And as I've pointed out, practically everyone in the Elvis world, including Ginger Alden, was involved in some lawsuit at one point or another. Who's to say that Anita Wood's lawsuit is more "important"? Nothing you've provided constitutes
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I only put the court case in the AfD to help anyone looking at the law journals since it uses her married name Brewer instead of Wood. Personally I get kind of annoyed when reading law journals because the text is super tiny and sometimes OCR won't catch the case names correctly.
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Yeah the Elvis in Australia page has copied some material from Knowledge, but it's the rest of the interview that follows which is what the source is being used for. The other one is her obituary so and I'm not seeing anything copied over. Unless I'm missing something.
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Strangerthings7112's point immediately above actually may have some merit. If her obituary was only published in one local paper, there's a reasonable chance it was paid for by the family, which would disqualify that source from counting towards notability.
1037:, I looked at the article at the time that it was nominated for deletion in 2014, and the article at the time that I !voted to Delete or Redirect. I said in 2014 that the article was poorly sourced and did not establish 1045:. So any comparison between this article on Elvis Presley's first documented girlfriend and the cutdown article on Elvis Presley's last girlfriend is questionable, comparing a crab apple and a Red Delicious apple. 571:. The book you cite, written by her daughter, was published by a small local independent publisher in Mississippi whose only noticeable publication seems to be said book (whereas Ginger Alden's book was published by 162: 268:
That's not significant coverage, and Anita Wood was never famous. Practically everyone in the Elvis world was involved in some lawsuit at one point or another; the one you cite is no more important than
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Subject was part of an important lawsuit dealing with libel and people who were once famous but later in life were not. Significant coverage of Wood was found so her notability is not
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involving Elvis' fiancée Ginger Alden. Ginger Alden had much greater media visibility than Anita Wood, appeared on countless magazine covers and even published a memoir, yet
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You might note that Anita's hometown newspaper is the only outlet to report her passing. Had she met notability criteria the news would've been picked up by wire services.
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The only references on Anita Wood are just mere mentions about her being Elvis' nonexclusive off-and-on girlfriend but you can't make an article out of that. So it fails
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article. I'm not sure how that will influence this discussion since the nominator's argument rests on the fact that the Alden article was redirected (not deleted).
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been deleted is because hardly anybody knows it exists. For those of you who oppose this deletion, how do you justify deleting the Alden page but not this one?
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states "significant coverage is more than a trivial mention" thus why she fails it. No notability except for casually dating a celebrity. And we all know that
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If you want to gain traction in persuading the community to delete this article, at a minimum you're going to have to cut out the "Alden" arguments per
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in two ways that are almost unrelated, as Elvis Presley's first girlfriend when he was a celebrity, and as a figure in an important civil law case.
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Since each of you deemed the Ginger Alden page worthy of deletion, I request your input on deleting the Anita Wood page. Anita Wood is without doubt
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been deleted is because hardly anybody knows it exists. How do you justify deleting the Alden page but not this one? It's a double standard.
913:. Texas-based disc jockey and news media reporter Eddie Fadal first met Elvis, when Elvis had his basic Army training at Fort Hood (renamed 1178: 464: 447: 359:
is inheritable per se. Elvis' fiancée Ginger Alden had far greater media visibility than Anita Wood and even published a memoir yet
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is a very real possibility since there haven't yet been quotes of the source material provided by the keep !voters.
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If you're really this motivated to delete the article, all of that energy might be better channeled into creating a
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There's an entire book about her that covers her relationship with Elvis but also the rest of her career and life.
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Her defamation lawsuit is an important part of the law surrounding public figures right to privacy over time.
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when one takes into account the fact that the Knowledge entries for Anita and Ginger came into existence for
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entire book about her that covers her relationship with Elvis but also the rest of her career and life
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And this list of the databases, including the library of congress, that she appears in for her music.
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which seems to be treated as a primary source, so likely doesn't count towards notability.
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because she too does not meet the criteria. The only reason Anita Wood's Wiki page
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because she too does not meet the criteria. The only reason Anita Wood's Wiki page
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Haven't examined those sources in-depth yet for SIGCOV, but from a cursory review
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from Elvis. Added sources including newspaper articles, books, and law journals.
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No worries I misread an AfD the other day and closed it by mistake.
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per Dr vulpes. Also sorry for accidentally closing it, I misclick.
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Two of those links copy the verbiage straight off Knowledge (i.e.
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notable than Ginger Alden so I see no reason to keep the page.
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Ginger Alden also has an entry in the Library of Congress
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Once upon a time: Elvis and Anita: memories of my mother
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may shed some light on this and other related issues.
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