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675:. Please help in the great community effort to delete him. Please provide valid reasons in the above link. Because the wikipedia admins would delete it only if the reasons are valid, not if the number of headcount is more. Why I am particularly concerned about this is because we have better hackers than Ankit Fadia in this community. If there is a biography on Ankit Fadia, then we must put up biographies in Knowledge on some really good hackers who are present in this community. Moderator, may be I have violated some rule of the community. If so, I would request you to delete this thread. This only a request to all the members here because I thought this is a place where I can share this." 699:
knowledge and the things specified in his book are very old none of them is uptodate. He has also started a course with the named CEH by Ankit Fadia. Lots of ppl have fooled by the name CEH considering CEH form EC council and doing his certification but his certification dont have value in india also leave the rest of the world. So he is just fooling the newbies. He dont have any achivements in hacking field. Just media has created fame for him. So I recommend that this artical should be deleted.
73: 414:- I feel Ankit Fadia should be deleted. If deletion is out of question, at least he should be removed from the category of 'Indian Hackers'. He is not acknowledged as a hacker by the "Hackers Community". There are various reasons of this. He has never submitted a bugtraq or exploit. He is not a good programmer since the world has never seen an exploit or a hack written by Ankit himself. 535:
think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word ‘hacker’ to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.
240:. He is the most notable "hacker" in India and is accepted by the media as such. A search for "ankit fadia" gives 30000+ ghits. The article cites BBC which says the same thing. His first book "The Unofficial Guide to Ethical Hacking" was a best-seller. A look at the history of the article sill show that this user has a strong bias against Ankit Fadia 698:
Ankit fadia is not acting professional security persion also. Leave the pint of he becomming a hacker. First of all I would like to add that i have read his book ethical hacking. Which is just copy paste from the web sites. He has pasted even hundres of pages as virus code. His book is not increasing
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I agree with most of the people out here that Ankit Fadia is a self proclaimed hacker. There is no proof that he has really worked in security field. Rather he uses tools developed by other eminent hackers without giving proper credits to them, which is against the hacker ethics. He also uses the
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There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people ‘crackers’ and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly
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Ankit Fadia cannot code, or at least, has never done so in public. The Second Question cannot be verified or not. However, Fadia does not qualify on the last count. No one has called him a hacker, but himself, and the media. ESR adds a note in the howto on people such as Ankit
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tools which damage not only the security, but also the integrity of the computer system, which is also against the hacker ethics.About his books, he just provides tips and tricks to tweak a computer which are already documented and calls them hacks. -
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as a delicious foodstuff. You are missing the point (I feel deliberately); this AfD is not about your opinion on whether or not Ankit Fadia is a hacker, a script kiddy or a hyperintellgent shade of the colour blue. It's about whether or not he meets
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Ankit Fadia's biography must be deleted since he is a self proclaimed hacker and none of his claims have been verified. Some of his claims have been published by various media but never the less they aren't sufficient
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to delete this. I have a screenshot, but am not uploading it on wikipedia due to copyright problems. Anybody who wishes to see the shot can leave a message on my talk page. Here is the text of the message -
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A hacker is acknowledged as a hacker if and only if his name figures in various high-standard technology sites or technology books. On the contrary most real hackers consider Ankit Fadia as a script-kiddie.
610:- the argument above that everyone *knows* about him, but think he's a fraud, is *in itself* sufficient argument to keep the article. Whether he's a fraud or not, the fact that he is known — passes. 247:
of the article was written by a fan, but I managed to do a major cleanup of the article to what it was. This particular user has also cleaned-up a bit more removing some more unsourced facts
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Delete Ankit Fadia. I got this scrap from another community. Posting it here:- "The wikipedia article on Ankit Fadia has been marked for deletion.
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The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person
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he isn't. I make no claim to know whether Ankit Fadia is genuine or not, and have no idea what "script kiddy" means.
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Did you look at the contents of those articles. Most of those articles refuse to acknowledge Ankit Fadia as a hacker.
286:. The fact that "some people consider him XYZ" is irrelevant (though could, if verifiable, be added to the article). 439:- To the closing admin. The nominator, and the above 2 IPs who have voted to delete are likely the same person. See 484:, per above. And the person initiating this AfD seems to be on some sort of personal vendetta, and not reason. See 512:, Ankit Fadia is not recognised by any Notable Hacker or Security organisation, other than as a fraud. As Per the 78:
If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Ankit Fadia is a self-proclaimed hacker. None of his claims have ever been verified from reliable sources
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has been marked for deletion. If you want his article to be deleted. Please express your views here:-
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None of the above has any bearing whatsoever upon whether someone should have a Knowledge article.
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contribution moved to chronologically-appropriate place. Was placed before deletion nomination
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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His work has been recognized by the media only. Not by any notable security organization.
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I have a strong feeling that this "vote" is by the nominator. See both the history of
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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Has a well-established member of the hacker community ever called you a hacker?
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That's not the point. Many newspaper articles refuse to acknowledge
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ankit_Fadia
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Do you identify with the goals and values of the hacker community?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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per above. Has verifiable publications, appears to meet the
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
§hanel
19:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Ankit_Fadia
Not a vote
not a majority vote
policies and guidelines
consensus
assume good faith
sign your posts
single-purpose accounts
spa
canvassed
canvassed
sockpuppetry
csm
csp
Silina
12:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
single purpose account
Silina
talk
contribs
Silina
12:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
WP:BIO

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