401:, i.e., officeholder/incumbent. Although the proposed guideline seems to contemplate state-level elections, given the examples that are provided, the policy is still open to discussion and could be extended to county-level elections. Deleting articles in the absence of a clear policy or guideline is not a good idea, especially when said articles are part of a WikiProject that is committed to expanding them.
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307:: 'Political figures holding international, national or statewide/provincewide office or members of a national, state or provincial legislature.' and 'Major local political figures who receive (or received) significant press coverage.' A county office fails the first part, and merely listing that the members of the board are members of the board fails the second. --
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