218:. He was an Afghan civil servant with a high position in the Ministry of Commerce (President of International Trade). This means that his name pops up from time to time but I have failed to find specific substantial coverage in sources using the Latin alphabet. The so-called references currently in the article are only able to confirm his job or his presence as one of tens of participants to this or that meeting. The rest of the content cannot be
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I don't see this pronouncement supported in any guideline or policy. I humbly suggest that this is because most of the resulting biographies would be impossible to source properly, even for 95% of the corresponding civil servants in the
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These are not new and at the risk of stating the obvious, all Google searches for "Mohammad Azim Wardak" will include the results for "Azim Wardak". In fact both links you give are currently used in the article. They only provide incidental coverage, not significant coverage that (to quote
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Searching for simply "Azim Wardak" yielded almost no results. However, the persons name is actually "Mohammad Azim Wardak." Searching this corrected name will get many more hits. I suggest we rename the article to "Mohammad Azim Wardak." Here are some links I've found concerning
436:- the individual is a senior civil servant. Senior civil servants can be notable. But that needs to be established with coverage about the individual. What I see is insignificant coverage where he is being quoted; essentially a spokesperson. --
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It is just incorrect citation/research on the part of the page creator. I suggest simply renaming the page and fixing other applicable areas. No harm done.--
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