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1655:) There is no concrete evidence of Bosnian Mujahideen(s). Just because of one or two books that were written with clear bias we cannot write an article on Knowledge . This was why an article concerning the Muslim causalities at Jasenovac was deleted a few months ago, since there were only a couple of books on the issue. There needs to be historical research backed by various sides in order for someone to write about this issue on Knowledge. Knowledge is not a blog nor is a 'web site' designed to formulate new ideas or concepts. We had disputes about this new formation of concepts concerning " 921:, I don't really understand your reasoning here. Just because there are video game players calling themselves "Bosnian Mujahideen" (wherever did they get that idea from, one can always ask, though) has no bearing on the academic use of the term - as exemplified by the Kohlmann article. Just because there is a lot of 'noise' on the internet when you search for the term on Google doesn't mean it's not a valid term that is also used in an academic environment. I agree that there are many other terms for the "Bosnian Mujahideen", though I believe this one is the best. 1671:(International Crimes court sees it as genocide) was not genocide. The international community sees it as genocide. Plus, he mentioned about the role of BiH in supporting Islamic terrorism, etc. He is a completely biased person who was prevented from hosting the 11th Congress of Eu Police with reason. The European Union does not view Bosnia as a place of Islamic Terrorism. Therefore (having said all of this), this article is based on complete bias and not enough historical evidence to prove such a great existence of Bosnian Mujahideen fighters. Thank you, 645:, and the profile states that "His journalism has been widely published on both sides of the Atlantic, including in the Spectator, the New Statesman, the Guardian, the Catholic Herald, the American Prospect, Reason, Slate and Salon magazines, and the Christian Science Monitor. He also writes regular reports for BBC News Online and is British correspondent for the Polish political weekly Prze Kroj." Which should give you some idea why the Guardian commentisfree site commission articles from him. -- 1921:: Contrary to what has been claimed, the expression "Bosnian mujahideen" is not used colloquially, as is demonstrated by the many negative Google searches, and so at best it's an ORish neologism. Also, it's blatantly wrong, as the people concerned were mostly foreign fighters, so they were obviously NOT Bosnian. If someone wants to write an article on this subject, they should write it under "El Mujahid". The current article is badly written, badly formatted, and clearly non-neutral. -- 153: 1667:" articles. Besides Darko Trifunovic, a Serb, who is a terrorism expert claimed/supported this issue and other similar made up issues. He was supposed to be the host of the "11th Congress of European Police" but his invitation was revoked due to uprise against him. The only reason many Bosniaks and others rose up against him is since they knew he was wrong for claiming that the 1124:
What about the post war issues (which to date have not ended) when the foreign volunteers were no longer in military units but their presence in Bosnia is still considered to be a political problem (In the way that those who volunteered to fight for the Bosnian Serbs or the Bosnian Croats do not seem
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So, what is revelant here? (a) "you say so, and almost EVERY SINGLE BOOK AND ARTICLE is wrong"? (b) you think one guy used it, when he really didn't"? (I explained you few times already, and I'll do it again: the phrase used by this single person was "Afghan-Bosnian mujahideen network/Afghan-Bosnian
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And now I looked onto 7th Muslim Brigade talk page and the Bosnian Internet War goes on there, too. But, it's not my problem and actually I don't know enough on this subject. I'm only here because Osli was linking his BM as a "main article" everywhere he could, sparking negative reactions from some
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This term simply isn't used. It appears very sporadically, even on the internet, and has been shown to be an inherently POV characterization. The subject that it's supposed to cover is addressed in numerous other articles that have been mentioned here; there is no reason why the supporters of this
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Unfortunately, certain Bosnian trolls have deleted a lot of material from mainstream sources in these articles, replacing it with UN.Org whitewashes - hence the creation of this article. I was blocked by Knowledge for restoring this material, and right now this is the best article on the subject.
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Nice guys, these "revolutionary communists".) I have no idea why The Guardian allows him to even blog on their website. (Ah, and "O'Neill has ridiculed those who wish to take action to reduce carbon emissions in order to tackle global warming." He's a real expert on everything!)
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Osli73, there is no need for such misrepresentation of sources. The title you cite: "The Afghan-Bosnian Mujahideen Network in Europe" by Evan F. Kohlmann war just a research/working title (and it is about the network), he changed it when published his book into a subtitle
1976:(/added) The current title is a non-notable neologism. Any useful information can be moved to other articles. If those articles become too long, proper daughter articles may be created. (added) A summary of the non-official military forces should be merged into 1011:, as I've stated before. Google searches and Bosnian video gamers isn't a relevant here. What is relevant is that (a) there certainly were Bosnian mujahideen and (b) the term is used by Kohlmann. However, I can agree on changing from Mujahideen to mujahideen. 629:
place their editorials and opinion pieces on this site and invite comment on them. They also place other articles by journalists on this site. The site has an editorial overview including and editor for commissions which the piece by Brendan O’Neill is, (see
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name for Jedi who are very popular in Bosnian cinemas...Come on guys...isn't it enough, all this special war by Serb/Croat nationalists in Knowledge...I didn't mean to be rude, but I had to say this...Btw there are several articles covering this subject
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and the matter presented in as NPOV as possible. Note that I have been involved as an editor in this article. However, I would have nothing against changing the title from "Bosnian Mujahideen" (capital "M") to "Bosnian mujahideen" (small "m").
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Notice that I suggest that the article name is moved to Bosnian mujahideen so that it is a descriptive title. The BBC says mujahideen in Bosnia which is the same as saying "Bosnain mujahideen" as an example of similar use see "British Gurkhas"
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This how "often used" this term is. Ergo, "Bosnian Mujahideen" article should be about a videogame clan from Bosnia and a video clip on Youtube clones (the latter one being the vast majority of all "Bosnian Mujahideen" hits, that is
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No I don't understand your position. Just because Knowledge does not have an article entitled "British Gurhkas" does not mean that the expression is not used and is a shorthand for Gurkhas who are or have served the British
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Have you looked at previous discussion? Nobody's denying that some of the material in this article could be used elsewhere, but it has an inherently POV title and its contents are already discussed elsewhere.
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This is regarding "Bosnian Mujahideen" (sounds like some organization, capital letters and all), not "mujahideen in Bosnia" (covered in several articles). Also why do you think "mujahideen" is "POV-loaded"?
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wrote about "Afghan-Bosnian mujahideen network", not about a group called "Bosnian Mujahideen" (see the confirmation in his final book). So, my proposition after I searched google for books and websites:
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While bin Ladenite propagandists, as well as Western journalists, have expended a vast quantity of ink on the topic of the Bosnian "mujahideen," in reality they played almost no perceptible role in the
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Disagree. This article is specifically about radical Islamist activity in Bosnia, and should not be diluted into other articles. This is a notable issue which deserves a Knowledge article. Rename to
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In that case, could you please explain: 1.) What exactly is radical Islam? 2.) Where is it found in the Balkans? 3.) Why such information doesn't belong in previously existing articles? Thanks.
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And even if the Srebrenica massacre did happen, it doesn't erase the fact that Izetbegovic was an Islamic fundamentalist whose views were at odds with Western democratic principles. --
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Yes, and you and your friend "The Dragon of Bosnia" have repeatedly whitewashed that article, deleting material from mainstream sources. That is why this one had to be created. --
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Jehochman, I wonder if it could be anything shorter but if thats ok with people, I'm ok too. In any case, any kind of rename would work out better than what we have right now. --
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are not British. Your argument about the content of the article should be on the talk page of the article, rather than here which is to discuss if the page should be deleted. --
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as per Osli73. Mujahideen do operate in Bosnia, and I have seen a report on NTV Hayat about a document which clearly states that there are mujahideen operating in Bosnia. --
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Sounds better and applies more broadly than what I was going to suggest "Islamic extremists in the Balkans". I like the term radical Islam. Its short and accurate. --
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as this is a clearly notable (and highly encyclopediac) topic. It is clearly a pretty well sourced article. POV problems here can easily be fixed without deletion.
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You don't understand. It's more like "Afghan-Bosnian...Network" (of mujahideen), not "(Afghan-)Bosnian Mujahideen". Geez, even book you linked is actually called
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related issue." But congratulations on discovering I was reffering to you in the comment directed to you. At least you eventually understood this. --
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Living Marxism has learnt the hard way that it cannot throw stones through windows and be able to run giggling down the street without being chased
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Would you also object to the title "Mujahideen in Bosnia" which in Google search returns 'about 2,810 for "Mujahideen in Bosnia"' one of which is
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during one of his edit wars. It is not the first time he was banned, but hey this is just ridiculous. He somehow decided to make balance between
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is not true. It's used very rarely - almost never. El-Mujahid, on the other way, apparently was an actual name of the foreign volunteer unit. --
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No, not the same. They were not Bosnian mujahideen, like there were Afghan mujahideen in the case of Afghanistan. They were foreign mujahideen.
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Bosnia is now regarded as a major base for radical Islamists in Europe. Deleting this article would be tantamount to a political cover-up. --
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Mujahideen" (twice, bald mine), "MUJAHIDEEN", and "the Mujahideen" also twice (as well as simply "ex-fighters", "former fighters", and just "
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Oh, I looked into the issue. Actually, the small before-Osli article was redirected into the parent unit article by the original author.
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Another test. As another user (unintentionally) showed, Google News Archives search also shows that there is only 1 hit on this phrase
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with a few Arab frustrating fighters who came to help after they saw genocide on TV. OK, tommorow maybe I am going to made up
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Terrorism is not the same term as foreign volunteers (a volunteer isn't a terrorist by default), this subject is covered in
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I don't think anyone here mentioned Darko Trifunovic in any way. The plural of mujahid is actually mujahideen. --
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I am nominating this article as a neutral party. Concerns have been expressed that the title of the article is a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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article is well referenced and all info in other articles should be merged into this. Also, I suggest the name
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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one can't simply redirect their efforts there, instead of causing needless dispute over a controversial name.
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makes it clear that he is left wing, but one would expect that for people who contribute opinion pieces to
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Actually, it was around 6,000 foreign Islamic fighters in Bosnia, including senior al-Qaeda people. Even
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The Mujahideen undoubtedly did operate in Bosnia, with the support of the West, Russia (yes, Russia, see
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used for the Muslim volunteers to fight on the Bosnian government side during the 1992-1995 Bosnian War.
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other users. I've got interested and it turned out the term was indeed largely invented by him. --
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article before Osli came around with his "often". There's also a an article on their parent unit (
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This article is true, why do people want to delete? Please look at article in today's Guardian.
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You are wrong. It is notable, and has been covered in the mainstream media. As I said earlier,
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I find this is amusing how everyone keep misunderstanding the issue. Oh, did I mention there's
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Genocide? What genocide? Serbian atrocities were not the only ones Living Marxism tried to deny
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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just as Indian Gorkhas is used as a shorthand for Gorkhas who have server in the Indian Army.
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Life after Living Marxism: Fighting for freedom - to offend, outrage and question everything
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Yes. Because they had their unit, and it's name was El Mujaid. Like, what is better title,
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direction) is neither convincing nor proper, and usually not acceptable in discussions." --
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http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brendan_oneill/2008/01/the_taint_of_association.html
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the term is used to describe the mujahideen operating in Bosnia, for example, see the
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network", not "Bosnian mujahideen") Whoah, that's a lot. Don't delete my stuff. --
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Bosnian Mujahideen (also referred to as El Mujaheed or El Mujahid) is the term
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Aaaand where exactly in the article was the term "Bosnian mujahideen" used? --
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covers this issue extensively in his two books on the Bosnian conflict. --
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does not contain this phrase in a serious meaning, and istead says
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etc...another cloned article with an unknown name is hmmm... ?! --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The role of foreign fighters in the Bosnian war#For the Bosniaks
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The role of foreign fighters in the Bosnian war#For the Bosniaks
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Incidentally, there are several articles covering this subject (
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Oh well, turned out I was wrong - "plenty" is now "null" (
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And (mostly) only them. Where they got it... from you?
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is liberal, not "revolutionary communist". Here's what
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other players a lot. It is also a title of a popular
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Then Osli came around and did this weird-ass thing:
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You know, I checked, and "British Gurkhas" 2305:exactly, what are the POV issues you refer to? 694:veterans to continue their lies... now in the 229:Bosnian Muslim and "Bosnian" mujahideen forces 2328:Paramilitary forces in Bosnia and Herzogovina 2093:Paramilitary forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina 1982:Paramilitary forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina 1752:Please, don't make mockery of Knowledge :( -- 1609:The new definition of "plenty" is now "1". -- 698:? Oh. Okay, makes a perfect sense I guess. -- 201:list of Military-related deletion discussions 8: 2045:Yes, and we are discussing a name change. -- 625:I think you misunderstanding the web site. 2011:The Hidden Army Of Radical Islam in Bosnia 791:(without mentioning Mujahideen). Regards. 976:Bosnian Mujahideen: Yesterday & Today 881:Bosnian Mujahideen: Yesterday & Today 240:(not "Bosnia Mujahideen") returned ~380, 1836:written by a user with a scary block log 199:: This debate has been included in the 158:This is a somewhat controversial topic. 1269:keeps stealing this article for himself 1603:The actual number of hits is 1 not 738 587:It's a blog, isn't it? I just checked 491:HanzoHattori's "argument" falls under 1866:are two entirely different things. -- 1056:and another the previously mentioned 7: 2332:Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina 2284:This is a completely POV neologism. 1978:Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina 1889:Mujahideen in Bosnia and Herzegovina 328:, but perhaps is should be moved to 1218:. This was fixed later in this way: 227:returned only 7 hits (1 doubled) + 134:as such is another related issue. 24: 2095:, per my modified comment above? 2027:So what? 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