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people have better things to do than to write about products, unless they get paid for it but then it's not an objective source, is it? 2. it's a niche so not everyone online will OPENLY talk about it 3. you will find plenty of references to the product online. We don't pay magazine editors like other companies do to promote the product. If you wanted to be strict about the notability requirement you would have to remove almost all businesses and products from wikipedia
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Further down it says "General Motors Co. don't have to explain to the outside world what they make". Hello? Ask people in Africa and Europe if they know GE, I bet you won't find many. So what makes something notable to you doesn't necessarily apply to others. If you knew anything about our industry you wouldn't be questioning the notability of BackupChain.
451:- Well, his point was that if a lot of people use it regularly, it should be notable. Which is a reasonable concept. However, contacting FasNeuron for their number of users should be considered as a primary source, or perhaps original research. There should be reliable, secondary sources saying that there are 30,000 users. --- 653:, and even know the difference between them. What am I doing wrong? And most of people I know also know these brands, and also don't know yours. How do you think, is it because I'm hired by your opponents to clear their minds every evening, or simply because your product isn't notable? Actually you replied yourself: " 609:
In-depth reviews are usually written by bloggers who have been hired to publish whatever the company wants to have presented to the public. These "in-depth" reviews neither add to notability nor do they demonstrate public interest in the product. You can spend $ 1M and get a whole bunch of magazines
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First of all, if some Wiki users are unaware of the product, they can't nominate the page for deletion just like that. If there's doubt you need to contact people in the industry to verify the notability of the product. The unavailability of this information at this point has several reasons: 1.
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you referenced is an opinion that lacks scientific and academic background. The statement "being of interest to the general public is what counts for notability, though" is non-sense. The general public doesn't give a damn about most of what you read in Knowledge. It's all niche to some point.
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Other free products may have a lot of references online because they are free. But that itself doesn't make the product notable. Just because some editors are familiar with a product, doesn't necessary mean the general public is, too.
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this software is in widespread use in the virtualization business with over 30,000 users to date. You may contact FastNeuron Inc. if you are in doubt of the notability of this software.
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To keep it short for you: I am not going to spend the entire evening explaining to you the significance of the word notable. Notable means 'worthy of notice' and the section
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I see nothing valid in this concept. To be included in Knowledge, any piece of software, regardless of its user base, has to meet to at least the requirements of
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The thing is that the publication is not open to the public you need to pay for it. This publication is read by pretty much everyone in the business
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Here is a two year old example from 2010, the product was included in DCIG's buyer's guide which is a leading publication in this business
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write about you. Does it mean anyone cares? I suspect you have been hired by a competitor to instigate such claims against the product.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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plenty of sources out there irregardless of whether people in Africa and Europe know of it.
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http://dcigbuyersguides.com/2011-virtual-server-backup-software-buyers-guide/
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And so what? How do the over 30,000 users help establishing notability? —
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doesn't help much. And still there should be significant in-depth review
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Where did you get the idea? The due process of deletion is described in
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There's plenty of indication out there, what you are talking about?.
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Using General Motors as an example is a bad decision because there
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I found nothing that shows that this software is notable. Fails
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you wouldn't be questioning the notability of BackupChain." —
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comment was added at 16:06, February 10, 2012‎ (UTC) (UTC).
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comment was added at 21:43, February 10, 2012 (UTC) (UTC).
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comment was added at 21:43, February 10, 2012 (UTC) (UTC).
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comment was added at 21:43, February 10, 2012 (UTC) (UTC).
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WP:B2B#Trade publications and awards aren't good enough
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WP:B2B#Trade publications and awards aren't good enough
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On my research. And on your research that we have at
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