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Cowboys-Eagles, Bears-Packers, Ravens-Steelers, Chiefs-Raiders) 2) historical clout but less recent games (think Cowboys-Steelers, Cowboys-Rams, Packers-Giants, Cowboys-Vikings). I'm seeing a lot of inconsistency in how people define a rivalry on Knowledge and I think some are prioritizing current heat amongst fans instead of just notability. In my view, a rivalry page can exist to detail iconic NFL moments contained within one NFL match-up. But we just need consistency as my intial post alludes to in creating this discussion.
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