1133:, you actually touch on a solution. The title is problematic, and the solution is not to delete, but to tweak the title. We really don't need to distinguish between whether Trump attempts to interfere/impede with the investigation (that's pretty clear) and whether he succeeds in doing so. So far, every refusal to provide requested documentation, firing people, lying about meetings held, etc, has only created more of a cloud and increased the determination to push for a better investigation. It has not "succeeded" in stopping the investigation. On the contrary.
1004:; Right now it is only alleged that Trump tried to obstruct justice and interfere in the investigation, and while his opponents are doing everything they can to incriminate him, underneath the rhetoric these only remain to be unproven allegations and Knowledge is not the place for unproven allegations to be reported as fact. I'm especially concerned that Knowledge's neutrality could be compromised and lead to it being branded as partisan if it seems to be too hostile to President Trump. Need to tread carefully here.
1705:. Obviously relevant, a major topic of the broader investigation that is significant enough and that has received and no doubt will continue to receive enough coverage in RS to merit a stand-alone article. The Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections and the Dismissal of James Comey are separate (but somewhat overlapping) topics; this is a criminal investigation against the president personally for a serious crime, with Donald Trump, not James Comey or anyone/anything else in focus. --
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1857:. Upon reconsideration, given (1) article improvements; and (2) some extraordinary, very unusual developments: "President Trump acknowledged publicly for the first time on Friday that he was under investigation in the expanding inquiry into Russian influence in the election, and he appeared to attack the integrity of the Justice Department official in charge of leading it.." (
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Michael Flynn? No. Do we have an article on the investigation into Paul Manafort? No. There is far more information and confirmation on them than there is on this. BTW I believe the redirect created when you moved this should be deleted as a BLP violation. --
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