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that says local references are no good. The papers are both independant from him which is all that is required. And both are considered reliable. Nevermind the national TV station and website which is oen of the biggest hockey media organizations in the world. Really there is no case for claiming he
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Additional references will need to be added to the article to confirm notability. Currently, the only references are from the OHA and his OHA team (the latter just points to the team's website, not any particular article), and a brief mention from the OHL that he was drafted in the 9th round of the
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It's not the point. The point of notability criteria, either explicit or consensus-driven, is that hitting one or more is a qualifier, whether or not others are met. Leveille may indeed never play professional hockey, but no one advocating Keep claims that as a reason to do so. We claim that he
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