597:. There are other places on the internet where fans can look up the present roster of a minor league team. The team being notable does not justify having an article which is a directory of all its nonnotable members, any more than a college being notable justifies having a list of all its alumni, students or faculty. The only argument which has any traction would be an "ignore all rules" justification that these lists are a way to avoid having articles about all the individual nonnotable players.
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