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389: 412:. The poor English and incomplete listing are page quality issues which there is no deadline to fix and the article is eminently savable. This is not a TNT case. The number of earthquakes that occur in Haryana (dozens of recorded ones over the years reported in reliable sources) clearly justifies a separate listing to 606:
It was not clear if this was supposed to be a list of notable earthquakes in Haryana (in which case renaming and expansion are warranted) or an article only about four small earthquakes in May 2020 (for which I could not find sources to demonstrate notability). I am very well aware that poor writing
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is an administrative area of India "carved out on a linguistic basis". Earthquake occurrence is unrelated to either administration or linguistics. It is not therefore a coherent topic, and to edit the article into correctly written English would probably not leave three consecutive words unchanged.
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in that there is no lasting impact of these earthquakes, coverage is not lasting (only a few trivial mentions), and predicting future earthquakes (such as a "big one" after these "foreshocks") is impossible. Unless there is evidence of lasting impact or notability, these earthquakes do not seem to
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and rename, per FOARP. The argument in the first comment about Haryana being carved out linguistically is nonsensical - how were the borders of California decided, and why does it matter? If a given state in a given country is earthquake-prone to the point of receiving media coverage about it, it
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supporting turning this into a list article. The sources that have been unearthed show this can be a viable article as is. The only name change I would support is changing to plural "earthquakes". It clearly is about more than "four small earthquakes in May 2020"; the page at the time it was
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these earthquakes belong to – if you can source it. That these earthquakes are small is also not a policy based argument. Small != unnotable. Since multiple researchers have studied them in depth and published their work in reliable sources then, on the contrary and by definition, they are
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suitable for an article. Editors arguing that earthquake occurence is unrelated to politcal/linguistic boundaries are promoting an argument not supported in policy and expert sources don't seem to agree. In any case, that is an argument for renaming, not for deleting. Rename it after the
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It's not completely clear what the topic is: a history/list of earthquakes in Haryana or specifically the earthquakes of May 2020. I'm having trouble deciphering what's written and the topic—but of course, difficulty reading is not a criterion for deletion, and it's clearly not A1 or G1.
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actually notable. Poor English is also not usually a good reason for deletion. Virtually every article that comes out of India is written in poor English, so suck it up and get copyediting.
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That it was carved out of another state in 1966 based on who spoke what language where is neither here nor there - it is a coherent geographical entity where earthquakes frequently occur (
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states that quakes in the 2.0-2.9 range are "felt slightly by some people. No damage to buildings" and there are "over one million per year" across the globe.
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is not a deletion rationale, but I cannot copyedit unless the intended meaning is clear; otherwise, I risk a misunderstanding.
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Of course that's not true. Focus of the article is an entirely different issue to copyediting English. To be clear, I am
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This is not a list article. Even if it was, lists in which no individual entry is notable are explicitly allowed by
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This doesn't matter as the subject is a list, not an event-article per se. The relevant guide is
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is quite sufficient. The 4.6 earthquake could be added to that list. The other three are 2's;
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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anyone thinks it inappropriate to have an article listing earthquakes in California?
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Perfectly valid list article for reasons others already pointed out.
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makes obvious sense to retain the article as a spin-off of the main
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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earthquakes (not all earthquakes covered in reliable sources).
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Not a single name in this article's list would meet
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