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419:, the Article in English Knowledge about a sister project i.e. Egyptian Arabic Knowledge is not violating any of the policies set by Knowledge, It is not violating any copyrights, it is not an advertising for the website as Egyptian Knowledge has already created a lot of discussions and arguments both on Meta pages and in many other blogs outside the wikimedia foundation.The rate of growth of Egyptian wikipedia should be taken into consideration as creating 5080 articles in only one year and few months should be meaning that many users are interested in contrbituing towards its growth,Egyptian Arabic wikipedia has 7,996 registered users , and the article in question has been edited 107 times by 32 different users all these little pieces of information can be put together to make a bigger more wholisic picture of sister Egyptian Arabic Knowledge project that merits an article of its own.-- 646:'s find of another good source. There seems to be some debate over whether Egyptian Arabic is a separate language, or just a dialect. The creation of the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge seems to have caused a notable amount of debate over whether or not it should have been created, for this dialect/language reason. There seems to be 2-3 reliable sources which are primarily about the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge, which satisfies 290:
Knowledge Masri is not only written in the language of the Egyptians for the Egyptian readers but it is also a secular wiki, something very important in a region dominated by religious and fanatical torment. Masri wiki came under attack from these corners, but it took the challenge and grew steadily.
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Al-Ahram is a well known newspapaer, and ref 5 is a good source, this means three good sources, not just one. What is the problem with having yahoo answer and google answers as ref for notability? It is notable enoughto cause such a debate. The argument is ; does wikipedia masry meet notability
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source is a reliable source and shows that there is interest and controversy regarding this topic in Egypt, and the Shorouk News source concerning the same seems legit to me (I google-translated their "about" section and the website seems strung to an actual newspaper).
368:. There are independent sources that discuss this Knowledge -- mostly blogs, but at least some people have taken notice of the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge, for better or for worse. In the past I have recommended redirecting articles about other language Wikipedias to 291:
It would be really sad and very bad for the intellectual world if it be deleted. Please show me a historical article on egyptian wiki that was taken over from another project. On the contrary, other projects copied articles from masri wiki, as it is, in Egyptian.
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about the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge. The English Knowledge does not have articles about all other languages' editions of Knowledge, just some of them, and the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge itself is not going to go away regardless of how this discussion ends.
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This article is about the first wikipedia directed to Egyptian readers, developing quickly and caused a lot of controversy even during proposal stage, starting debate that is referenced using independent sources including an article published in
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because of a lack of independent sources. That's not the case here. By the way, participants in this discussion should keep in mind that all we are discussing here is whether the English Knowledge should have a separate
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could post anything that they wish (within the Terms of Use). Thus, if I were to post a question about my uncle Bob, would he suddenly be notable? Not a chance. You should take some time to read
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as arguments in this discussion. I didn't find any more sources in my searching, so unless someone can produce some, policy, and community consensus indicate redirection or deletion.
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Thanks for your comment. I fully understand your point ,however, there are many other sources , that you recognise as reliable, talking about wikipedia masry. --
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that provide significant coverage, and are independent of the subject. I would like to see some keep arguments that point to policy and guidelines, rather than
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requirements or not? . The other thing is has the decision been made already to delete the article no matter what is written?--
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if you would like more information on what is considered reliable sources. To answer the last question you had: see
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Non-notable Internet encyclopedia with <10,000 articles. Most coverage is from Wikimedia projects or Facebook. —
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Knowledge Masry has been subject to controversy from the start, causing arguments between supporter and opposers
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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from the Shorouk News. These two sources, as pointed out by Hekerui, establish notability.
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This leaves us with one reliable source, Moheet.com. Based on this, the article can read
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Regarding Yahoo/Google Answers, these don't establish notability because
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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There are now sufficient sources to show the notability.
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Debate between the Egyptian bloggers on Knowledge Egyptian
460:#5 looks to be a good source, but the article is called 454:#3 is a very passing mention, not significant coverage. 451:#1 and #2 are wikipedia/wikimedia links - not reliable. 445: 132: 128: 124: 194: 444:. 'I like it' is not a reason to keep an article. 244:
Minor wiki without sufficient independent coverage.
457:#4 does not mention the Egyptian Arabic Knowledge. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 728:). No further edits should be made to this page. 78:Articles for deletion/Egyptian Arabic Knowledge 396:list of Websites-related deletion discussions 208: 8: 309:This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing 480:#11 - moheet.com seems to be a good source. 342:, unnecessary deletions are to be avoided.— 524:Ref no 10 is not a dead end , and it is a 390: 486:#14 is a personal webpage - not reliable. 474:#7, #8 & #9 are blogs, not reliable. 394:: This debate has been included in the 448:there are 16 citations in the article. 75: 269:). It also has more articles than the 7: 434:Delete or Redirect (per S Marshall) 73: 24: 483:#12 & #13 are facebook pages. 273:wich has a page on enwikipedia.-- 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 561:WP:AfD#How to discuss an AfD 745: 711:04:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC) 680:03:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC) 661:13:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 634:00:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 617:21:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC) 593:11:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 573:01:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 539:09:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC) 520:02:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC) 502:Bottom line, we need more 429:17:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 61:07:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC) 411:19:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 386:16:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 361:15:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 323:14:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 301:10:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 283:16:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 271:Dutch Low Saxon Knowledge 253:06:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 236:06:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC) 99:Egyptian Arabic Knowledge 67:Egyptian Arabic Knowledge 721:Please do not modify it. 489:#15 & #16 are blogs. 32:Please do not modify it. 471:(come on... seriously?) 501: 436:, (see below) We need 72:AfDs for this article: 638:Changing my !vote to 497: 313:). 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