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319:. The nominator is making it increasingly difficult to assume good faith. This is looking more and more like harassment of the article creator, particularly with the repeated and tendentious characterization of a deadlink as a "bogus source", and the repeated insinuation that somebody winning an award for promoting enterprise should be treated as a "contentious claim" per WP:BLP. -- 260:
inserted. In fact the link does not even feature the person in questions name. Isn't inserting bogus sources an abuse of the system? As for WP:ANYBIO, until it can be proven that this person won an award which confers notabity, this assertion is pie in the sky. Advice - the article creator needs to back up claims with reliable sources, as per GNG and WP:BLP.
341:, and that it once provided a link to a pdf listing previous Queen's Award for Enterprise Promotion winners. Whoever it was that called this link "bogus" owes somebody an apology. While it is regrettable that the list of winners is not archived, there is an alternative source for the 2005–2010 recipients here: 430:
The link was added in 2010, when it looked very different; you are removing it with edit summaries that unreasonably assume bad faith. You are removing the information sourced to the link as though it were controversial information (which it isn't). You could very easily leave the information and add
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It contains the words "Download a list of the 2011 and previous recipients of The QAEP (PDF, 198K) - Opens in a new window." That list has not been archived, but assuming good faith means not accusing other editors of adding "bogus" or "false" links, when the link they provided in 2010 still, in
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That's not how it works and the 'ego' and 'condescending attitude' isn't appeciated or appropriate. The onus is on the article creator to provide sources to back up claims. There are no sources to suggest this person won an award, and the link did not suggest anything of the sort when it was
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as I see how this would be keepable but I'm simply not seeing much convincingly better aside from some usual news mentions from my searches. If better is made, I would be willing to go weak keep but I'm not entirely convinced at this time. Feel free to draft and userfy until better is made,
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new sources for it, but instead you are removing it under false pretences (that the source was fraudulent; that the information is controversial). That's why I reverted you the first time I saw you doing it.
416:. If you have good citation, by all means add it, but please don't add a link which isn't relevant to the article, and according to all available evidence, never was relevant to the article. 229:. It is now a dead link. If you choose to replace it with a better link, that is fine. Until then removing the dead link, then prodding the article under BLP is an abuse of the system. 533: 502: 116: 433:
Now you're either trolling, or you've got so caught up in your zeal for deleting these articles that you can't tell how troll-like your behaviour is becoming. Either way,
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GNG does not require that there are sources in the article that back up GNG claims. Having said that, when I inserted the source it did back up both GNG and
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2011, led to a downloadable pdf list of recipients. You can *very* easily confirm the information from other sources (such as the one I gave you, but the
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It would be useful if you could share the sources you found for Karen Arnold while you were making this nomination.
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I will not be drawn into an edit war on it, and I will not communicate with you further on this matter. --
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might also be an option) rather than remove the information while adding denigratory edit summaries. --
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Doesn't meet GNG. Article creator has a history of inserting sources which don't back up GNG claims.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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does not feature any mention of Karen Arnold, in the past or present. How is it relevant?
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Adequate coverage by enough sources to establish notability per WP:GNG.
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and through sufficient coverage in independent, reliable sources
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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link removal was correct for reasons already given.
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http://www.enterprisepromotion.org/queensawards.htm
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