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52:. The argument for deletion is that this is a routine event (for this part of the world) with routine coverage. Accordingly, the "keep" opinions would need to argue that there are aspects of this events that make it more important and more likely to attract lasting coverage than other such events. Only the first two "keep" opinion makes such an argument, while the others don't address the argument for deletion. Still, this doesn't quite get us over the bar of rough consensus to delete, given that the "delete" opinions are also somewhat cursory. 662:
In an especially egregious case, Israeli forces shot dead 19-year-old Sa’ad Muhammad Youssef al-Atrash in the Old City of Hebron as he attempted to retrieve an ID card at an Israeli soldier’s request on 26 October. The Israeli police labelled the incident an “attempted stabbing” but an eyewitness
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Not a memorial, speaks to the illegal Israeli practice of extrajudicial execution, this being one of the more shameful examples of that. This case and others are part of a pattern that has attracted the attention of the UN, Amnesty, Israeli NGOs and even the usually forgiving United
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Here is a filmed with Sa'ad al-Atrash's mother, thus proving that a diversity of sources exist. I don't think that will change your mind, but I hope the closing admin takes that fact into consideration (along with your prior voting record, evidenced by the articles I linked to).
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watching the events unfold from her balcony said he had posed no threat when he was shot. One of the soldiers had asked him for ID, and as he reached into his pocket to grab his card another soldier standing behind him shot him on his right side, she told Amnesty International.
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asking it to investigate this killing and a handful of other killings. There was also some controversy as a video clip of al-Atrash body spread on social media, showing Israeli soldiers standing over him without providing medical aid.
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The long list of similar discussions set out by IP above illustrate clearly that the notability of this article is equivalent to dozens of others across the encyclopaedia, on both sides of this depressing conflict.
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So it seems to me that there is a strong precedent to keep articles about this kind of violence. In this case, there are circumstances that makes the killing both notable and controversial.
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In those AFDs you brought there are reporting from WASHPO,NYTIMES and BBC. The partisan report from anti-Israeli organization don't count as reporting and there is a big question if it
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To be fair al-Atrash likely was attempting to carry out an attack. A fact that, initially, was missed by Amnesty's investigation which contributed to the controversy.
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and, although IP had done a good job of making the case, an investigation by Amnesty International does change this analysis. —
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also it doesn't tell anything about the incident but rather gives first eye account which is more primary source --
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Tragic, but all the normal coverage you'd expect of such an incident. No long-lasting impact. As per
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It may also be instructive to consult prior AfD discussions about attacks and killings in the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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This better but still not enough in my view I would prefer more sources from international
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The article has twelve sources, so it indeed meets WP:DIVERSE. One of which is Amnesty.
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other articles AFDs that were presented by ImTheIP had large intentional coverage. --
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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