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and is purely OR cannot be included. I should also point out my decision to conduct an AfD is to provoke discussion on how to deal with the issues raised, not to simply put them out for deletion (that is the only action if nothing is done to deal with the problems). One of the more key issues these articles have is they list extensive breakdowns of the seasons regarding there tasks, a factor that is pure OR and has little to non-existant sourcing. To simply put them in as a major problem, because who is going to want to know this other than those who are fans of the programme? And the table being used to cover results and eliminations is so complicated and complex - what kind of editor thought that was going to be useful? It's excessive and overinflated.
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and sees to have a split in it detailing elimination of celebrities. While the second's only notable factor is the voting results, it's clearly problematic. The only solution I can suggest is removing the second table, and placing any citations linked to results into the first table; voting results may be retained, but only if there is a general idea of how to do so, otherwise they will have to go.
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Difficult Results tables - We got two table in use detailing the results of the contest for each series. One is simple and efficient, detailing each celebrity that partook in the series, their most notable work, and the result of their performance. The other is more complicated, use too many colours,
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No - "it will be most likely that the articles will be facing possible deletion" - means that that is a possibility if the consensus on the articles does not make suggestions on how to deal with them. If anyone suggest KEEP, they've got to understand one thing: Information that would only sate Fans
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Let's hear what others have to say first before simply closing it. The AfD that is ongoing over the season article for the British original has shown a split opinion on the matter, though a number have raised concerns regarding these type of articles for these types of programmes and the style and
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If editors can determine how best to deal with the issues I have pointed out, and figure out what to do with the articles in order to rectify the problems, then they could avoid deletion. But this will acquire an effort by editors to make certain to combat the issues and clean up the articles in
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Original Research - Much of the articles are fed with OR that is considerably inflated, and mainly would be relevant to fans of the programme, and thus can't be retained. If the articles are to remain, various layouts of information will have to be removed; most particular will be all sections
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No Episode Table - Articles don't include an episode table listing the episodes of the seasons. If the articles are to remain, such an episode list must be included; short sums of the episode should also be written out, detailing a brief summary of events covered in the
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Existing References - Any references from sources deemed unreliable will need to be removed. Editors should double-check all those used in the articles and remove those not valid; any for fan-based items will not be relevant are to
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Look between the more recent season articles for the Australian edition and then those of the British edition. Note that despite some differences, there is a similarity in layout. Arguing
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layout they facilitate. I do believe that if there is a general consensus for cleanup, then the appropriate template for it should be added to these articles when this AfD is closed.
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question. If nothing is considered, it will be most likely that the articles will be facing possible deletion.
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Layout is an article content issue which, as has been stated here and elsewhere, is not what AfD is about. --
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can help us come up with an standard article structure that deals with the issues these articles face? --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Leads - These will have to be amended and cleaned up, as they really could do with improving.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following article is one of six being nominated for deletion; the other five include:
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The issues here are around article cleanup, not about them failing notabilty.
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it will be most likely that the articles will be facing possible deletion.
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AfD is not for provoking discussion on how to deal with article content.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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not done, AFD is not clean-up, articles appear referenced.
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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (Australian season 6)
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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (Australian season 5)
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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (Australian season 4)
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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (Australian season 3)
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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (Australian season 2)
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is not a reasonable point because that can cut both ways.
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C.1. clearly states "If the article can be fixed through
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No further edits should be made to this page. 497:Note: This discussion has been included in the 477:Note: This discussion has been included in the 479:list of Television-related deletion discussions 499:list of Australia-related deletion discussions 571:- They already are nominated for deletion. -- 191: 8: 441:relating to Trails, and special challenges. 546:for the underlining argument for this AfD 496: 476: 822:criteria and most problems surrounding 568: 7: 24: 826:can be easily fixed by editors - 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 849:Reality television task force 836:00:14, 30 November 2019 (UTC) 807:16:36, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 790:15:46, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 770:12:21, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 753:11:48, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 718:11:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 695:11:49, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 677:11:40, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 651:11:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 636:11:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 605:11:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 590:10:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 556:10:37, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 535:10:24, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 511:09:58, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 491:09:58, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 471:09:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC) 861:00:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC) 66:15:04, 1 December 2019 (UTC) 436:Reasons for these include: 897: 52:. 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