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examples, so having this many examples is helpful. I see that there are numerous "List of . . ." pages. Maybe they need to be organized by category. I didn't find a category called "Language Lists"; perhpas such a category needs to be added. Language study includes and requires a great many lists of words that cannot be easily accessed in dictionaries, lists like this one.
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language opportunity to test the Sacher-Warf hypothesis. Additionally what happens in languages where verb-noun is not so malleable? Lastly, it was stated that 30 % of the words in this list only are properly included with US accent; is there evidence to support that statement. My vote follows later.
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for some reason abutted each other, and some people had commented on the list of words below the entry for Bruce, not realising that they were commenting under the wrong entry. So Michael Hardy tried to sort it out by moving Bruce's link lower down, to separate it from the other entry, not realising
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Keep, of course. The fact that one person considers it pointless to study language is only that person's weakness. Anyone who cares about the scientific study of the English language will find this interesting, even if the article is imperfect in its present form. Those who don't care about that
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Yet another useless attempt to delete valid content, you mean. NPOV? What can you possibly mean, there is no point of view involved, it is a factual list of words that change their gramatical role depending on stressing of the sylables. Keep it! Also - see the talk page for a serious discussion of
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What a load of absolute bloody knee-jerk nonsense has been spouted in reply to that comment of mine. I am astonished at comments such as those made by Optim above and UtherSRG and Anon below. The problem - and it should not require me to point it out - is that a good 30% of the words on the list
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Linguistics is the study of language, and liguists note that the spoken language is key. The issue of accent is not a reason to discredit this topic, but rather to study it. If there are accents of English that do not convey this difference between verb and noun form then there is a natural
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Keep. Lists like these are useful to people who study language and who teach language. This list in particular is interesting and will be helpful to me, an English as a Foreign Language (EFL) teacher, when discussing the role of stress in English. The textbooks usually give only a few common
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Sorry if it looks like I voted on my own listing, but upon looking at the page history it seems somebody accidentally merged two listings together yesterday (maybe Michael Hardy?) Anyway, with history view loads pushing 30 seconds I don't have time for this mess right now. Good night.
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the entry, in the end it became clear that there was just no way that we were ever going to be able to agree about what words should be listed and what words should be left out. Language is simply too variable.
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workable, as the list component can now be simply a short list of examples on which all can agree. The entry, in other words, is no longer just anoyjer bloody useless list, and has genuine value: keep.
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Keep. This is an important linguistic fact. English is one of thos languages that most easily forms one word type from another and vice versa and this is one of the key "tools" used.
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I wrote it and signed it. Someone else deleted my signature, apparently while deleting (and so apparently rescinding) their own vote for deletion.
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Comment: I dont see any relation between POV/NPOV and the page in question. How could somebody write a POV on this subject? My vote is below ..
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and its talk page respectively, after copy-and-paste page moves. I'll wait a while to see if there are any objections first, though. --
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Keep. See above for rational. By the way, if the reorganization takes place, I already put a link to the original article in
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Pointless. In any case, it is probably impossible to write this from a NPOV. Delete this as yet another useless list.
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This page is preserved as an archive of the associated article page's "votes for deletion" debate (the forerunner of
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Keep, and make something more of it than simply a list. This is an interesting linguistic phenomenon in English.
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by Michael Hardy at 21:42 on 9 Jan 2004. At that time, the Vfd entries for the list of words and for
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or some such - the acrimony dragged on for weeks, and although I myself initally voted to
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that the votes by you and MIRV immediately following it belonged with Bruce as well. --
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No objection. You don't need VfD for temporary deletes in order to combine histories.
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I thought that because you were making major changes to the page at the time, sorry
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I did not ever merge two lists together. I have no idea what that could refer to.
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Keep and see how the page develops. It deascribes an interesting phenomenom.
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Huh? The page history reveals that I never made this vote. No opinion.
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Please do not modify this page, nor delete it as an orphaned talk page
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Keep. Who wrote the above? Didn't sign it... tsk, tsk. *grins* -
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and its talk page in order to recombine their histories with
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Keep, is quite useful to anyone studying linguistics.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
articles for deletion
initial-stress-derived noun
silsor
Green
Mountain
Tannin
Optim
List of words that are commonly mispronounced
Tannin
Kd4ttc
209.102.127.70
ping
Onebyone
Bmills
Phil
Optim
RickK
silsor
silsor
--MIRV
--MIRV
UtherSRG
Michael Hardy
PMC
Djnjwd
CyberCypher
silsor
Michael Hardy
silsor

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