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musician. Forgive me, I know that patience is a Christian virtue, but there is tendency on the part of some non-religious editors to lose all sense of perspective when confronted with articles about Gospel musicians. I continue to feel that the many sources I have adduced above more than suffice to
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as target for a redirect. Reason is that while Sonicflood broke up within 2 years of Deyo's departure. Deyo formed a new band that toured and got press coverage, including at least some (looked minor) press coverage for the albums. My suggestion is that the post-Sonicflood albums be redirectted to
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takes an anti-George Frideric Handel POV. With media, the quesiton is how reliable is the source, not is it POV. With small professional outfits like Worship Leader, or, indeed with any non-profit, the question is how significant and how reputable a non-profit org is, not whether it takes a
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is an online community. Sometimes these sort of sources can be used to add non-controversial info in BLPs, provided there is editorial oversight. But they can never be used to prove notability. As already stated, he is known for Sonicflood, and his relevant details are already covered in that
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that this article was created in 2007, which was just after Deyo's fairly brief career as a performer wound down and he segued to full-time college music prof who does gigs as a worship leader. It has been edited by dozens of editors over the years. My
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has found few sources which give a passing mention of the subject. But we need in-depth coverage in multiple independent reliable sources for a standalone BLP. We could've merged few relevant bits to Sonicflood, but the BLP is unsourced. -
518:- Redirect to Sonicflood. Having articles about albums doesn't necessarily make one notable and I'd likely support deleting them if they get nominated. SonicFlood is notable, but I don't see Deyo being that notable on his own. 185: 631:"The age of worship rock that started with Jeff Deyo turning In The Secret (I Want to Know You) into a power-pop song in 1999 has officially ended—and it's about time. That sound stayed around far too long." 238: 138: 255: 559:
Perhaps you want to unbold your response so it doesn't look like another !vote. Since SonicFlood charted on their own, I don't see why they'd be a redirect. They pass
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support the notability of this minor performer/recording artist/worship leader whose career peaked ~2000 and notability included, but was not limited to, the band
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Nonsense. The overwhelming majority of non-for-profit organizations are POV promoters of one ideology or another. As are most mainstream media. Neither the
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Beliefs aside, Worship Leader takes user submitted articles and appears to lack editorial oversight. That will pretty much remove it from bein a RS.
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are valid, independent sources for supporting notability of a recording artist when they publish material such as this detailed, longish:
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Deyo was born in Minnesota. He left Sonicflood in 2000. He is the married father of four children. He works as a studio arts professor.
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is a small organization, but, in principal, it is in the same category as all other non-for-profits. The other article ran online in
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Done, But As I understand it, No one is proposing to redirect Sonicflood. Niteshift36 proposed to redirect Jeff Deyo to Soniclflood.
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As I've already stated above, these religion-promoting sites are blatant violation of WP:NPOV. I mean you have to just read its
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is a significant thing; some sources and text they could support below. More sources visible in proquest news archive search.
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The fact that Deyo is Christian and the network is Christian does not invalidate it as a source any more than a review in
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Despite the fact that CBN likes the album, the singer, and the idea of singers recording this type of song, BCBN is an
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Among other things, these religion-promoting sites are blatant violation of one of WP's three core content policies –
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which was a bit of a big deal at the time. We all need to try harder to assess articles notability objectively.
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Here is one source I found, a feature/profile () Feel free to add it to article. More sources are out there.
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applied the other way around: an album is not immediately notable just because the subject has an article.
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I believe that, in this case, case. Deyo's main notability comes from his association with Sonicflood.
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NPOV. Even small, specialized outfits like Worship Leader contribute their mite to notability.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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after reading its first line. But today I read the remaining interview. It's a promo of his
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This and several sources mentioned earlier in this discussion are sufficient to meet
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A charity is an NGO, and many of them have publications. Granted worshipleader.com
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makes the least pretense of being ideologically neutral, but both are regarded as
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can also be used to source basic bio, and should be added to "external links".
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Source searches are not providing qualification for an article; does not meet
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Jeff Deyo: The one time lead singer of Sonicflood reaching saturation point
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Sources brought to this discussion above include profile articles in the
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this article, while this article continues to be linked from Sonicflood.
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source, a broadcast network publishing an article about a new album.
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Irrelevant since sources exist and have been brought ot this page.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Despite the assertion by NitinMlk above, sources such as
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Dayo became the "lead worshiper" in the Jeff Dayo Band.
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is invalid as a source supporting the notability of a
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is a charity which promotes Christian Music and the
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