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based on consensus. And yes "verifiability". That does not mean it IS verified, it means that it is ABLE to be verified, that is all (I thought I had made that point clear earlier, but I guess not). The article has no contentious claims and is not a BLP, and frankly, more effort has gone into arguing what should be obvious, than the effort it would take to source it. That said, it still passes the notability GUIDELINES, which means it passes the criteria for inclusion. Quoting the guidelines and policies is not the same as working with them for years and understanding how they are interpreted here.
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have been tested by time and are often respected the same as many guidelines because the consensus of editors agree that they should. You've only been here a couple of months so let me just say that there is a big, big difference in websites designed by rigid policy, and one like Knowledge that is
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Being new isn't inadequate. Not looking at the citations on the page, or using the search links in the AFD itself MAY be perceived as making an inadequate effort before interjecting. You are simply viewing the guidelines in a more rigid fashion than most editors. Four years of not being sources
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Comments on the perceived inadequacies of other editors do not contribute to the discussion and might be seen as disruptive. My point was that four years of failure to verify the material is some sort of evidence that it is not verifiable. You say that it is able to be verified -- please support
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I'm wary of ever voting to delete an article that has survived multiple AfDs in the past, but the reasoning behind keeping it in years past was the promise that the article would be improved, which it never has. More to the point, however, is whether or not the topic itself is worth an article
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rather than whether the article as currently written is worth anything. Glancing through Google scholar, there does seem to be various mentions of jurispedia. At the moment, however, I'm not sure that the coverage rises to the level of significant coverage.
302:- One would think that with the backlog at New Pages starting to grow, more productive work making inclusion decisions could be done there rather than rehashing this for the third time. It's just a stub, it's a serious resource, don't pick at it. 430:. It should come as no shock when a website that primarily appeals to non-English speaking people (per the refs that were easily found) isn't quickly referenced on the English Knowledge. Notability isn't language specific either. 198: 103: 97: 92: 87: 283:). And yes, the article certainly does need work, including more citations, which would be a great reason to look them up or comment on the talk page of that article, or tag the article. 459:
is clear enough: "The threshold for inclusion in Knowledge is verifiability" and I claim that four years is long enough to establish that this material is not verifiable.
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but the reasoning behind keeping it in years past was the promise that the article would be improved, which it never has.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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since the first AFD, the article has hardly changed. In particular, no
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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doesn't mean 'no deadline but less than 4 years'. Secondarily,
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Wiki-based website lacking any sort of notability whatsoever.
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most are not in English, which is never a reason to delete
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doesn't prove it can't be: you can't prove a negative.
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pretty much declare that argument as a non-argument.
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Which of the four conflicting points of view in the
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Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (second nomination)
98:Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (4th nomination) 93:Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (3rd nomination) 88:Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (2nd nomination) 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 584:). No further edits should be made to this page. 340:list of Websites-related deletion discussions 219: 8: 338:Note: This debate has been included in the 337: 80: 557:, because its sufficiently notable.-- 7: 78: 24: 526:I said "evidence" not "proof". 83:Articles for deletion/Jurispedia 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 449:Knowledge:There is no deadline 385:the content let alone support 1: 497:your claim with evidence. 601: 567:04:14, 23 April 2011 (UTC) 536:16:48, 24 April 2011 (UTC) 522:12:57, 24 April 2011 (UTC) 507:08:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC) 492:02:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC) 469:19:00, 23 April 2011 (UTC) 440:18:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC) 399:09:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC) 363:17:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 331:16:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 312:14:55, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 293:14:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 258:03:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 239:01:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC) 66:01:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 577:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 422:is clearly about being 528:Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus 499:Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus 461:Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus 391:Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus 77:AfDs for this article: 451:do you feel trumps 381:have been added to 44:The result was 565: 365: 343: 321:per all above. -- 63: 50:non-admin closure 592: 579: 564: 455:? Secondarily, 379:reliable sources 360: 355: 349: 344: 323:Reference Desker 224: 223: 209: 157: 139: 59: 56: 34: 600: 599: 595: 594: 593: 591: 590: 589: 588: 582:deletion review 575: 477:Essays such as 358: 353: 347: 166: 130: 114: 111: 109: 106: 75: 62: 54: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 598: 596: 587: 586: 570: 569: 551: 550: 549: 548: 547: 546: 545: 544: 543: 542: 541: 540: 539: 538: 402: 401: 373:In the nearly 367: 366: 334: 333: 315: 314: 296: 295: 260: 227: 226: 163: 110: 108: 107: 102: 100: 95: 90: 85: 79: 76: 74: 69: 60: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 597: 585: 583: 578: 572: 571: 568: 562: 561: 556: 553: 552: 537: 533: 529: 525: 524: 523: 519: 515: 510: 509: 508: 504: 500: 495: 494: 493: 489: 485: 480: 476: 472: 471: 470: 466: 462: 458: 454: 450: 447: 443: 442: 441: 437: 433: 429: 425: 421: 417: 413: 409: 406: 405: 404: 403: 400: 396: 392: 388: 384: 380: 376: 372: 369: 368: 364: 361: 356: 350: 341: 336: 335: 332: 328: 324: 320: 317: 316: 313: 309: 305: 301: 298: 297: 294: 290: 286: 282: 281: 276: 272: 268: 264: 261: 259: 255: 251: 246: 243: 242: 241: 240: 236: 232: 222: 218: 215: 212: 208: 204: 200: 197: 194: 191: 188: 185: 182: 179: 176: 172: 169: 168:Find sources: 164: 161: 155: 151: 147: 143: 138: 134: 129: 125: 121: 117: 113: 112: 105: 101: 99: 96: 94: 91: 89: 86: 84: 81: 73: 70: 68: 67: 64: 57: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 576: 573: 558: 554: 514:Dennis Brown 484:Dennis Brown 474: 452: 445: 432:Dennis Brown 427: 423: 415: 374: 370: 318: 299: 285:Dennis Brown 279: 278: 270: 262: 244: 228: 216: 210: 202: 195: 189: 183: 177: 167: 45: 43: 31: 28: 479:WP:DEADLINE 416:No deadline 412:WP:NOEFFORT 408:WP:DEADLINE 275:WP:DEADLINE 265:as passing 250:Wickedjacob 193:free images 424:verifiable 387:notability 375:four years 116:Jurispedia 72:Jurispedia 231:LiteralKa 560:Milowent 428:verified 160:View log 475:Comment 304:Carrite 245:Comment 199:WP refs 187:scholar 133:protect 128:history 453:policy 426:, not 383:verify 371:Delete 267:WP:GNG 171:Google 137:delete 446:essay 214:JSTOR 175:books 154:views 146:watch 142:links 55:Monty 16:< 555:Keep 532:talk 518:talk 503:talk 488:talk 465:talk 457:WP:V 436:talk 420:WP:V 410:and 395:talk 327:talk 319:Keep 308:talk 300:Keep 289:talk 269:. " 263:Keep 254:talk 235:talk 207:FENS 181:news 150:logs 124:talk 120:edit 46:keep 345:-- 221:TWL 158:– ( 61:845 563:• 534:) 520:) 505:) 490:) 467:) 438:) 397:) 342:. 329:) 310:) 291:) 256:) 237:) 201:) 152:| 148:| 144:| 140:| 135:| 131:| 126:| 122:| 52:) 530:( 516:( 501:( 486:( 473:' 463:( 434:( 393:( 359:0 354:A 351:/ 348:N 325:( 306:( 287:( 252:( 233:( 225:) 217:· 211:· 203:· 196:· 190:· 184:· 178:· 173:( 165:( 162:) 156:) 118:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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Jurispedia
Articles for deletion/Jurispedia
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Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (4th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Jurispedia (second nomination)
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