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This page is only a day old. Still working on it, Please allow time for this article to be finished. This article has reason to exist, there are probably close to over 100,000 people a year that either attend or watch the onething conferences online. This section was marked for deletion because of
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Yes, it's amazing how magazines and television networks with an interest in
Pentecostalism cover Pentecostal events. To say that they are not independent is flat-out wrong. Neither of these entities (God.tv or Charisma Magazine) has an organizational relationship to IHOP or OneThing. They merely
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Being shown on television doesn't impress me - undoubtedly it was on channels associated with the religious views of the participants. Not independent. As to
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Would the user that flagged this site prefer/wish that this page was merged with the
International House of Prayer article? And believes that this page by itself is unnecessary? Originally i thought that it would be found listed as too much info on the IHOP page..so created a second article.
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Christian? its a Christian conference, the references are going to be Christian websites, magazines, news sources. Just because they're Christian-based doesn't automatically make them an unreliable third party source. -travisharger
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The IP range 72.192.0.0 - 72.223.255.255 is assigned to
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Can't see much coverage indicating notability - that is, independent coverage. It's the annual conference of some organisation. A lot or organisations have annual conferences. Very few of them are notable outside the organisation.
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is a one paragraph article that has had what ought to be a separate article on a
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No assertion of notability or references. "References" section is just a collection of links to
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