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493:, "Mainstream newspapers may be a reliable source for some subjects." Since the quake's report was not reported in the Opinion or Op/Ed section of the newspaper, I'm pretty sure San Francisco Chronicle would be a notable and reliable source. And something rare may not be notable for Knowledge, but a (I'm not a seismologist, therefore I won't make any bold assumptions here) quake that strikes right around where Loma Prieta hit in 1989 (decent quakes have known to strike around 20 year cycles) should make it notable. Sometimes it is a precursor to a larger quake, however, USGS has found that the likelihood of aftershocks more powerful than the initial quake felt last night to occur in the next 7 days is low. If this article shall be deleted, we should merge it to another more notable article so that at least it is somehow on record. If this happens, it would be nice to have a 700:
Rim has had stronger earthquakes and if we don't relieve enough pressure on this side, it has been stated we will have a very major earthquake. Noting the 5.6 earthquake may not seem very important but the faults need to let loose on this side of the Pacific Rim. It seems people would rather more damage and devastion be done. We should be happy we have learned and added precautions to keep us safer. I believe it is important to note this earthquake.
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The article should be kept. The only reason why there is little to no damage is because of the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. California has been rocking and buildings are becoming being modified to handle earthquakes. This an important earthquake for California. Remember the rest of the Pacific
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actually been killed around the world by earthquakes of this size as well as in California. This quake is also noteworthy for achieving over 63000 responses to the USGS 'did you feel it?' earthquake questionnaire, which is the highest ever by quite some margin, again showing it's noteworthiness.
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An utterly non-encyclopedic and nonnotable thunderstorm recently caused major property damages and a fatality. This earthquake caused only minor property damage and no injuries. A minor earthquake in a region where there was once a major earthquake gives the local papers a chance to sell some
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This is indeed insignificant as far as casualties and damage go, however considering it is the biggest earthquake in the whole of California with an epicentre onshore for over 3 years it should be seen as noteworthy. As far as earthquakes go a 5.6 is certainly not minor, plenty of people have
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in a non-trivial way. There is no evidence presented that this quake is considered notable by the press or by any other reliable source, and untill and unless such coverage exists OUTSIDE of wikipedia, there is not proof of notability and this does not deserve an article IN Knowledge.
338:- 69.181.239.72 just mentioned of minor injury reports. Once again, it's just best to at least let the article sit out overnight. The July earthquake article was AfD'ed 13 hours after the article was started (info courtesy of 195:. From the citations, it's described as a "moderate temblor", "no reports of damage or injury", "electricity never went out and his telephone was still working". This isn't even the top story in the local news there. 542:, but with the knowledge that it can be ressurected. We don't have a death toll or damage count yet - until we get something more than minor numbers, it kind of falls below being a notable quake in my book. 256:, clearly a non-notable event in the bigger scheme of things. (OK, it was strong enough that it has me up at night reading about earthquakes on Knowledge, which is how I came across this AfD.) And please note 726: 152: 90: 85: 415:
Very minor earthquake. Ones of this small magnitude occur every day somewhere or other, and the fact that it is the largest one in this exact location since 1989 means nothing.
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until news stories confirm only minor damage and that the earthquake was indeed less than a magnitude 6.0 before deletion. It should have been tagged with a
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Hm... Notability is still questionable, but besides tonight's earthquake, a 5.6 magnitude earthquake has only shook California about 31 times since 1973.
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on there, which means the article will be expanded in due time. It should not be deleted until at least a couple days after the quake.
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It shouldn't be deleted, yet the name should be changed to "Alum Rock Earthquake". Get rid of the date. That belongs in the article. --
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I just sorted out their data through a simple CSV sort, but it's all right there. The last time we had one of these was 2001.
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Notability at Knowledge is NOT determined by how rare or how common something is. It is determined by its appearence in
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This was no more an event than the average thunderstorm or snow shower. This was an entirely nn earthquake. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Changed my mind. Notability comes from news coverage that this has gotten, so I'm flipping to a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Date is important in case a future earthquake originating from nearby location occurs.
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Sorry, but didn't I just post that there were only 31 of these quakes since 1973? lol
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Non Notable. Hundreds of these happen all over the shop. Why is this one important.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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newsprint. It is the essence of non-notability. See the essay
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has been informed of this discussion. --User:Ceyockey (
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The 1868 Hayward Earthquake: 139 years and counting...
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 768:). No further edits should be made to this page. 602:; The city gets loads of earthquakes each year. 8: 167:especially when it was already tagged with 264:? 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