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source and not a wiki-esque databse). Source 3 list the film and its cast but provides no commentary or context, website appears to be a sketchier version of iMDB. Source 4 is a one sentence reference to the film. Source 5 is a one sentence reference and source 6 just names the film in a list of Bashar's films. I cannot find evidence of reliable, non-trivial sources existing through a google search. Happy to change my vote if someone can point to such sources existing, but, as far as I can see, they don't.
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winner isn't necessary, but for film festival awards being tagged by IMDb as a "nominee" is not a notability criterion in and of itself, and the final winners (or honorable mentions) are the only films that get to claim "notable because award" out of it. As always, of course, films that don't win awards at film festivals can still claim notability on other bases — they just don't get to claim that they're notable
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cited in the web page of some production company. Yet, you are certain the reviews "certainly exist" when they could be anything from a multi-page feature to a one-liner in the week's cinema listings. I'm sorry but, though the effort is admirable, we cannot establish notability like this, neither for
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Care to point out when and where was the film nominated for an award? Getting the film on a festival program is not the same as being nominated for an award. As to the French Knowledge entry, it is equally bereft of sources indicating notability. The proffered sources are almost all typical listings
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All sources pointed to by Encyclopædius are trivial except for source 1 which appears to be a one paragraph summary of the film. Source 2 merely lists that the film exists and then gives Bashar Shbib over a dozen producing credits for his work on the film (also no indication that CFO is a reliable
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can get tagged as a "nominee" for the People's Choice Award, completely without regard to whether it ever actually had a prayer of winning that.) So film festival awards don't work like Oscars or Canadian Screen Awards: for the industry awards, being shortlisted is enough and actually being the
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or bumped upon online are scarce & trivial mentions in film listings, unworthy of consideration. Geeeting nominated for some award is nothing like winning it. But even so, there's nothing out there dedicated to this film specifically. And I speak French fluently.
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automatically tagged as a "nominee" for that stream's final award, regardless of whether it was ever actually under any serious consideration by the award jury or not. (For instance, any feature film that screens at the
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about the film says that the film in competition at the Montréal World Film Festival in 1991. It was considered, at the time, an A-list festival. I guess most of the sources and critiques of the film are in french.
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This film has definitely never been an "award nominee" in the sense that's relevant to our notability criteria for films. To be fair, the confusion results from IMDb's structure; the way they do things,
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Again: A film participating in a film festival does not mean that the film is nominated for an award, as the Keep suggestions have claimed. Neither does such a participation
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and you will find them. These reviews from almost 30 years ago are not online, but they certainly exist. Once notable always notable.
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did not review the film, which was simply mentioned as an entry to a film festival. Nowhere do we have reviews by
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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the time it got released, nor for now. It may be a fine filmic work for all I know but
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In other words, all we have of the alleged "reviews" are one-sentence
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film that screens in a competitive stream at a film festival is
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Non notable film, with no independent 3rd party reviews.
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