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The article is a mess, but that's no reason to delete it. Each song appears to have a source beside it. How exactly can an unreleased song be notable? Unless it leaks of course, which most don't, as they are, you know, unreleased. I say that if an artist is notable and they have enough unreleased
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We can change the title if that's a problem. I just called it "List of Lana Del Rey songs" because that was the title requested. Every artist that has a "List of unreleased songs" also has a "List of songs". That's just what it's called here. I have never seen a "List of released songs". Also, I
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I think that LDR's List of unreleased song shouldn't be deleted because those songs are very notable for her career. She still performs some of them and also plans to release some of them. That is why the page is notable and shouldn't be deleted. Very few people know about Lady Gaga's or Nicole
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Firstly I think the point is that "Sirens" was released, so the article can't make it's mind up whether it's released, unreleased or songs unreleased by "Del Rey" So the article is a mess before we start. Then we have the straight question, "Are unreleased songs notable?" The answer must be,
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