747:- a list of the names of the dead is not notable and not encyclopedic. Knowledge is not a collection of lists nor a memorial. If someone isn't important enough to get mentioned in the article or have their own article, then there's no reason to include them in a list, and there's no reason for a list if they're already mentioned inline. It just isn't important. Moreover, its not like the hiroshima bombing or 9/11 or similar have lists of dead people on them, and they were far more notable events. Thus, it is completely inappropriate.
927:. If you object to a specific aspect of this list, then improve it through editing. The list of victims in this case is a valuable addition to the parent article; indeed, we wouldn't HAVE a parent article if these people hadn't been killed in the first place. Having an article on the killings without the people who were killed would be like having an article on an election without the names of the candidates, or an article on the Olympics without the medal winners. -
1073:, an article over 60 kb "Probably should be divided (although the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading time)" and one over 100 kb "Almost certainly should be divided up." Which is of course why this article was split out of the main one to being with. I'm not sure how much merging this article into the main article would affect the size, but it's already over the recommended limit for "probably should." Therefore I vote for
1581:
had existed and people who were editors made their own memorial to the people who died on the USS Arizona, this would had been a violation, if editors at the time instead had just reported in an article about a memorial of the USS Arizona then it would not be a violation. Thus reporting on the memorial and making a memorial is two different things, listing the names of the victims and making a memorial to them are also two different things.▪◦▪
392:. The list by itself holds little encyclopedic value. No additional information on each of the individual victims can be added to it that requires keeping it separatly, as their only source of notability comes from the events themselves. Echoing the sentiments of grief that have already been expressed above, keeping this list simply is erecting a shrine to those who perished - a most commendable goal, but definitely
700:. Please think before opining "merge". The parent article is already huge and it doesn't need an extra infusion of content. The whole idea behind Knowledge not being a memorial is that it isn't somewhere for you to post your dear departed loved one's obituary. But these people were covered in national news - this is not a vanity article about some guy's dear departed mother. --
1580:
There is a paradox, the more numerous victims in an event the less known they are individually, the listing of six million Jews for example can not be done, and conversely the listing of the seven people of the space shuttle challenger can. As far as the USS Arizona
Memorial, if at the time wikipedia
914:
Normally I would suggest a list of victims (which I believe to be a vital part of an encylopaedic article like this) be merged into the main article for the incident. However, the whole reason this article is here is that the main article is too long. This page does not read like a memorial, includes
1855:
of them becomes notable because of the global interest in the event. That said - I would strongly argue against creating special pages for each of the students themselves, unless there were other notability factors, like perhaps documented heroic acts performed before death, that sort of thing, and
1035:
are notable for having been the victims of the one of the biggest school shootings in U.S. history. That they were coincidentally fondly remembered by their friends/family does not detract from that. I do not argue that their level of notability warrants each and every one of them getting a separate
1542:
because it's not a memorial, it's a listing a victims, people seem to be confused as what constitutes a memorial, if a perpetrator of a crime becomes so news worthy as to become encyclopedic rather it be Adolph Hitler, Osama bin Laden, or
Charles Manson, common sense will tell you that these people
572:
and merge a basic victim list into the article. We do not usually include victim lists for bombings and plane crashes, but unlike those events in a shooting spree the events transpire over a time period and the victims may have interacted to affect the sequence of events, so they may have a part in
1168:
This article was created on June 10, 2005 and is just a list of those who were killed, it's a list not a memorial, if on the other hand people were writing about how much they going to miss them or how they knew them and enjoyed the same music etc. I would agree, this on the other hand was a major
604:
Dr bab said it best. Keeping this article sets a bad precedent. Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The thing may be sad for some people, I suppose, but still, listing victims of mass deaths is weird, somewhat creepy, and unnecessary. If any of the individual victims got
1057:
wrote, "we wouldn't HAVE a parent article if these people hadn't been killed in the first place." I'm sure we would all be much happier if the main article didn't even exist, but the reason it does is because these people and their deaths and injuries were notable not only to their families and
1052:
person/place/thing/event/idea on
Knowledge would be deserving of an article, since every article is made up of numerous "nonnotable" details that only become notable when joined with others to create a context. But it is context that makes something/someone notable or not, and these people, the
1047:
Many proponents of deletion also seem to be confused about different levels of "notability." They apparently believe that if a given person/place/thing/event/idea isn't notable enough to warrant a page all on its own, then it isn't deserving of mention at all, even if it's a pertinent detail in
1551:
before her kidnapping, after the fact their cases were covered worldwide as to reach notability and so were true with the
Columbine victims, reporting them as such isn't the same a reporting another young boy or girl who is kidnapped or murdered, the listing of a famous victim is no more of a
1405:
as a list of encylopedic information. It would be a detriment to the quality of the main article to have it jammed in there, but would also be an oversight of this encylopedia to not have this information. This is not a memorial, however a list, one of many on wikipedia used to cover such
915:
all those involved including the murderers (which obviously would not be the case on a memorial), ad deliberately avoids language which might construe the page as a memorial to the massacre. It is simply a page presenting information pertinant to another page which is now simply too long.--
379:
memorials. This page just needs to be re-edited, and it will be a viable, non-objective page. I mean, deleting it will just remove all of the sources for the memorials. Given recent events, this page will probably be looked at alot more closely. Re-edit, then merge or keep (don't just
1759:
All you need here is name, age, occupation/student status and you have enough for a record. If there's more than that, the person should have their own article or one of the many memorial sites can more than provide whatever detail a searcher may be looking to obtain.
872:
has a victims page. Indeed, there isn't a list of the names of the people killed in that, because it isn't encyclopedic! Frankly, these lists of victims ARE memorial pages, and thus inappropriate, because they weren't meaningful and they aren't remembered.
1043:
page and accompanying AfD discussion, by people who seem unable to distinguish between a memorialization and pertinent detail about a historically important event. I disagree with this ideological campaign and the faulty reasoning behind
515:
1117:
1851:, was a National Tragedy, as students, families, and the general national population was effected in some way. While it is true that the dear students themselves, rest in peace, were not particularly notable before the event, the
86:
81:
90:
73:
558:, the names should be listed. It's equally clear that for an incident involving 3,000 deaths, such as Sept. 11, a list would become unwieldy. So where's the middle ground? I think that's what we're discussing.
139:
because after some time, that article was seen as being too large, so several satellite articles were created to contain all the extra information, this being one of them, if anything merge this onto that one. --
1195:
374:
a memorial for families of victims, and how it does not advocate emotionally-related articles, this particular article gives a somewhat valid first-hand view of the victims and links to all of their sites and
771:, because of the notoriety and impact of this historic and infamous event, almost assuredly people reading Knowledge will want to read this information. We must not fall victim to the deletionist agenda. --
1030:
about memorials says, quote, "Memorials. Knowledge is not the place to honor departed friends and relatives. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must be notable besides being fondly remembered." The victims
947:
How many you have actually read the
Columbine article? The deaths of every victim are described in narrative detail, and there is a table as well. This article up for AfD is completely redundant.
964:
I don't think they should be in the main article, for reasons of length. If they're a standalone with a blurb in the main article, people can see them if they want, and not see them if they don't. -
1630:
While it is the norm, there could easily be exceptions to the rule. Columbine was and still is a historic event, and perhaps the rule/norm could be bent to allow this list to be refined and kept.
227:
The shooting is notable, the individual victims are not. I'm not sure there is anything to merge, the article is just a list of the victims and that already exists in the article on the massacre.
1839:
guideline is to avoid making special pages for otherwise non-notable individuals just because they died prematurely or otherwise. Groups of people involved in a massacre are different. The
1450:, I'm failing to see how a list is the same thing as a memorial. It's not like this is friends or family writing a memorial page to the victims. I don't think memorial applies in this case.
1069:
article is already (at this writing) 70 kb in length, and when opened to edit displays the message "It may be appropriate to split this article into smaller, more specific articles." Per
1058:
friends and the community of
Littleton, Colorado, but also to the nation and to the world. If they weren't, then perhaps you should consider a speedy delete on the main article instead.
1485:, Nope, it used to be part of the massacre article, and then people thought the article was too long, so they divided some sections out into sub-articles, this being one of them. --
289:
because it relates directly to our subject. Per my opinion there, I recommend a keep, and would be almost as satisfied with a merge - as long as the content is kept in some form.
69:
61:
1660:
list of victims != memorial... individual pages for victims == memorial... dont confuse the two. and delete the images off the page already (thats not acceptable fair use).
1543:
regardless of how horrible they are that they are notable in history, on the other hand people seem to have a harder time understanding of the notability of a crime victim,
977:
And now that I look at it again, I see that it's not anything like you'd described. I assumed that it must've been changed since the last time I read it, but I guess not. -
585:
as above. Deleting this article doesn't somehow obliterate the memorial websites for all of these victims; it just means that
Knowledge isn't a link repository for them.
1144:
is inappropriate as an argument for the deletion of this article because the individuals named here are not individually notable -- because the topic of this article is
113:
1772:- and so there should also be a similar article for the Virginia Tech massacre and all other such incidents. Why would this not be considered notable enough to keep? --
1642:
To me, the problem isn't just that it violates the rules, but also that it's completely redundant. Literally everything that's in this article is already available in
1002:: WP isn't a memorial. Death sucks, but just because you died doesn't make you notable. Just because you die during a notable event doesn't make you notable, either --
1023:
The names of the dead and injured in the
Columbine High School massacre are historically pertinent as part of the description of that significant historical event.
1833:
Memorials. Knowledge is not the place to honor departed friends and relatives. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must be notable besides being fondly remembered.
554:
argument is flawed. It's partly a question of numbers. I think we can agree that for an incident involving three people, such as the recent hiking accident on
1174:
1040:
850:
1869:
1819:
1805:
1793:
1776:
1764:
1744:
1726:
1706:
1690:
1674:
1650:
1634:
1607:
1591:
1575:
1562:
1529:
1509:
1497:
1475:
1442:
1422:
1410:
1397:
1376:
1364:
1352:
1336:
1324:
1312:
1287:
1275:
1259:
1243:
1216:
1202:
1187:
1160:
1108:
1085:
1008:
981:
968:
955:
931:
919:
906:
886:
877:
857:
837:
804:
792:
775:
763:
751:
739:
727:
704:
692:
676:
650:
625:
613:
596:
577:
562:
542:
502:
488:
476:
461:
441:
384:
358:
337:
321:
305:
293:
276:
256:
231:
222:
204:
184:
168:
152:
127:
55:
1152:, not any one of them as an individual. Nobody is arguing here that each of them is notable enough to warrant their own article -- because in that case yes,
688:
article. There are people who might search for a list like this, however, so it should redirect to the proper section of the existing
Columbine article.
1039:
The current AfD discussion seems to be part of an ideological campaign against any such lists of victims of heinous crimes, apparently begun with the
1835:. This is not a matter of the sobbing friends and family of a departed loved one, posting the kid's myspace page on the Knowledge. The tone of the
243:
back into the main article; it's not really enough content to have its own separate page, and would work better in context in the main article.
77:
882:
The natural solution to that would be to improve our coverage of
Haditha by adding a list of victims there, not to delete this article. -
783:
as per Phaedriel, who has it pretty well bang-on. The information is available in the main article, so no deletionism is going on here.
846:
520:
While I feel for the vitctims and their relatives, this is not encyclopedic. If this is included, we should create similar lists for
1465:
827:
511:
1714:
I'd be inclined to agree were it not for the fact that, as I've previously mentioned, all this information is already available at
196:
a memorial, the victims are notable as victims of one of the deadliest school shootings. Otherwise, merge into the main article. --
525:
658:. Being one of the victims of a tragedy, regardless of the notoriety of said tragedy, does not confer notability. Knowledge is
812:, was created to prevent the Columbine article from getting too long. No valid reason to delete and no reason to merge back in.
1495:
274:
252:
150:
17:
1840:
1786:
1715:
1699:
1683:
1643:
1522:
1431:
1268:
1252:
1066:
685:
634:
450:
314:
136:
1438:
a memorial. There is no additional information in this list that would make it appear to be anything other than a memorial.
437:
529:
864:
That's the general idea. Its pretty evident from their distribution that they are random and meaningless, and are very
1865:
1740:
Merge the names into the main article, but delete this article. It's a memorial, and isn't appropriate for wikipedia.
1571:? That is a memorial with the names of those that died in the battle. This is the same idea, abeit in digital form. --
1320:
Too bulky to be merged into the main page, and their names is important information and very relavent to the massacre
333:. Like it or not, you're gonna need to have the list somewhere, just like all the other articles on tragic events. --
1848:
1238:
1169:
news story and part of US History, further more I see the recent nom of this article for deletion as Violation of
1884:
609:
media attention and asserted notability beyond getting shot, why not make them the subject of their own article?
36:
1883:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
1054:
978:
965:
928:
883:
521:
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
1757:
1789:. If all the information is already there, the task is easily achieved. There is no point in duplication.
1102:
301:. The Columbine page is already 69kb though. I think this might have split off for that particular purpose.
164:
This is nothing more than a memorial. While I feel sorry for their families, WP is not a memorial for them.
1773:
1212:, unforunately a merge would make the main article too bulky - best to keep it as a separate articlespace.
1844:
1345:
772:
1703:
1053:
victims of Harris and Klebold, are part of the context of what makes the Columbine shootings notable. As
1458:
820:
498:
473:
674:
1753:
1568:
1349:
874:
760:
748:
642:
559:
550:
318:
290:
198:
1492:
1393:
1389:
801:
485:
271:
147:
1138:
of articles, which is governed by Knowledge's guidelines on the reliability of sources and trivia"
1828:
1790:
1682:
One has to assume this is meant as a memorial since all this information is already available in
1604:
1572:
1539:
1518:
1272:
788:
286:
52:
1544:
219:
124:
1756:
victims. Unanimous consent was to remove and this was done (and Bath was a far worse tragedy).
1723:
1687:
1668:
1647:
1589:
1560:
1361:
1284:
1256:
1185:
431:
248:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
1451:
1098:
869:
854:
813:
355:
334:
1861:
1761:
1548:
1526:
1419:
1373:
1305:
1170:
637:
622:
723:
a simple list of victims and their ages is not going make the article that much longer.
1815:
1741:
1486:
1407:
1385:
1344:
Deletion nomination was likely a reaction to the debates regarding victim articles for
1333:
1232:
1213:
1153:
1141:
1126:
Notability guidelines determine whether a topic is sufficiently notable to be included
1121:
1070:
948:
916:
865:
736:
689:
662:
a memorial, and having a page listing otherwise non-notable victims is unencyclopedic.
589:
397:
302:
265:
141:
317:
already contains a more detailed list of the victims, hence a new page is not needed.
1802:
1439:
1435:
1321:
1027:
784:
724:
659:
533:
454:
381:
348:
228:
215:
193:
165:
120:
1661:
1582:
1553:
1506:
1178:
1105:
1036:
article, but yes, they are "notable" enough as a group for their names to be known.
610:
427:
244:
107:
1430:
suggestion for this article. There is room for a list of victims in the original
1631:
663:
574:
539:
458:
181:
1296:
It's an unnecessary page, the content of which is certainly covered elsewhere.
1857:
1199:
1157:
1082:
899:
701:
555:
1856:
then it would have to be very well documented, not urban legend material. --
1226:
1048:
describing another person/place/thing/event/idea. By this faulty reasoning,
1004:
1384:, valid subarticle, containing notable content, split for reasons of size.
1686:
and therefore has no other purpose to exist as a stand-alone article.
1255:, both in list format and in the detailed description of the event.
1597:
1505:
this please there is too much information to put in main article
1877:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
1600:
1332:
High School Students will need this information in the future --
1698:
No, not true - it does have a purpose, it helps keep the main
943:
Great, so merge the names into the main article. Oh, wait.
853:, among many others. Ya'll gonna get rid of those, too? --
484:, information should be preserved in the main article. --
1283:
Just as important as the killers or the event itself. (
1198:. Whitman was the clock tower sniper at U. of Texas. --
621:; the same information is already in the main article.
103:
99:
95:
282:
1194:
Note that this same business is also going on in the
70:
List of victims of the Columbine High School massacre
62:
List of victims of the Columbine High School massacre
1567:
So what say you about the wall of names at say, the
1418:I don't care which, but I like having information.
1827:. This is clearly an improper use of the claim of
1196:
AfD debate on the List of Charles Whitman's victims
1140:(emphases added). So this continual referencing of
368:
Keep or Merge and Re-edit completely (Don't delete)
39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
1547:wasn't notable before her death and neither was
1118:AfD/List of victims of the Virginia Tech massacre
1887:). No further edits should be made to this page.
1552:memorial as the listing of a famous killer. ▪◦▪
281:I strongly encourage the closing admin to read
1521:. The relevant information is already in the
945:They already are in there, each and every one.
512:Causalties of the Beslan school hostage crisis
1175:List of victims of the Virginia Tech massacre
1041:List of victims of the Virginia Tech massacre
684:This information is already available in the
8:
1752:per precedent. I started an article on the
1722:helping anything. It's entirely redundant.
526:Causualties of the september 11 2001 attacks
449:but merge any content not already listed in
868:towards people in the US. Its not like the
532:. This would get out of hand. Knowledge is
573:the narrative, like characters in a play.
313:The persons are notable, but the article
1702:article down to a more manageable size.
1065:were in not for the fact that the main
370:Well, I do understand how Knowledge is
1148:the victims of the Columbine massacre
471:In entirety without abridging content!
1251:All this information is contained in
1116:(per a similar comment I made in the
7:
1360:the list did no harm in the past. --
713:I agree with this line of reasoning.
1434:. But we do need to remember that
1130:in Knowledge. These guidelines do
530:Causalties of the second world war
24:
135:This is a sub-article related to
1173:brought about by the nom of the
845:: For the record, you also have
18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion
1787:Columbine High School massacre
1716:Columbine High School massacre
1700:Columbine High School massacre
1684:Columbine High School massacre
1644:Columbine High School massacre
1269:Columbine High School massacre
1253:Columbine High School massacre
1067:Columbine High School massacre
686:Columbine High School massacre
635:Columbine High School massacre
451:Columbine High School massacre
315:Columbine_High_School_massacre
137:Columbine High School massacre
1:
1408:-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider)
1265:Merge with Extreme Prejudice
1016:. For the following reasons:
1372:We are not an obituary. --
1904:
1870:18:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
1820:23:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
1806:21:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
1794:16:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
1777:19:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
1765:17:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
1745:05:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
1727:19:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1707:14:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1691:04:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1675:04:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1651:04:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1635:02:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1608:07:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1592:05:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1576:04:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1563:04:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1530:02:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1510:02:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
1498:23:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1476:23:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1443:22:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1423:20:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1411:20:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1398:20:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1377:19:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1365:19:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1353:15:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1337:13:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1325:14:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1313:13:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1288:12:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1276:11:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1260:11:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1244:08:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1217:07:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1203:07:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1188:06:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1161:06:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1134:specifically regulate the
1109:05:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1086:05:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
1009:01:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
982:03:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
969:03:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
956:03:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
932:01:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
920:23:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
907:22:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
887:01:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
878:23:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
858:22:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
838:22:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
805:20:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
793:20:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
776:19:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
764:19:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
752:19:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
740:18:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
728:18:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
705:17:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
693:16:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
677:16:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
651:16:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
626:15:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
614:15:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
597:14:50, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
578:14:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
563:18:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
543:12:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
503:11:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
489:10:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
477:09:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
462:09:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
442:09:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
385:06:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
359:22:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
347:True, But that place does
338:06:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
322:05:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
306:05:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
294:03:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
277:03:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
257:03:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
232:02:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
223:02:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
205:02:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
185:01:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
169:01:50, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
153:01:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
128:01:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
56:12:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
1646:, and in greater detail.
538:" The same is true here.
522:Casualties of the Titanic
496:- what Krimpet said ...--
420:07:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC
1880:Please do not modify it.
1538:This not a violation of
1517:as a clear violation of
354:See my comment below. --
218:do you think they pass?
32:Please do not modify it.
1603:into this arguement. --
510:This remains me of the
396:an encyclopedic one. -
1845:Virginia Tech massacre
1813:- I found it useful. -
1596:Please don't bring in
1346:Virginia Tech massacre
855:From Andoria with Love
769:Strong and Speedy Keep
518:. My vote there was: "
486:Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr)
356:From Andoria with Love
351:have to be wikipedia.
335:From Andoria with Love
264:what Krimpet said. --
192:Although Knowledge is
1128:as a separate article
1754:Bath School disaster
1569:USS Arizona Memorial
1224:per comments above.
682:Merge & Redirect
551:reductio ad absurdum
1055:Hit bull, win steak
979:Hit bull, win steak
966:Hit bull, win steak
929:Hit bull, win steak
884:Hit bull, win steak
587:As it shouldn't be.
180:- not a memorial --
1841:Columbine massacre
1825:Strong Speedy Keep
311:Very Strong Delete
1785:back to the main
1120:discussion). Per
1007:
791:
647:
494:Keep and/or Merge
436:
1895:
1882:
1831:, which states:
1774:DevelopedMadness
1673:
1666:
1587:
1558:
1489:
1470:
1463:
1456:
1308:
1281:Very Strong Keep
1183:
1003:
952:
904:
870:Haditha killings
832:
825:
818:
787:
670:
667:
645:
607:very significant
593:
501:
434:
417:
415:
413:
411:
409:
268:
203:
201:
144:
111:
93:
48:
34:
1903:
1902:
1898:
1897:
1896:
1894:
1893:
1892:
1891:
1885:deletion review
1878:
1671:
1662:
1583:
1554:
1549:Elizabeth Smart
1545:JonBenét Ramsey
1487:
1466:
1459:
1452:
1350:StuffOfInterest
1311:
1306:
1302:
1299:
1179:
996:
994:Arbitrary break
950:
900:
875:Titanium Dragon
828:
821:
814:
773:172.166.196.253
761:The System 3000
749:Titanium Dragon
735:per Phaedriel.
668:
665:
591:
497:
455:WP:NOT#MEMORIAL
407:
405:
403:
401:
399:
319:Mayank Abhishek
283:this discussion
266:
200:theblueflamingo
199:
197:
142:
84:
68:
65:
46:
44:The result was
37:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
1901:
1899:
1890:
1889:
1873:
1872:
1822:
1808:
1796:
1779:
1767:
1747:
1735:
1734:
1733:
1732:
1731:
1730:
1729:
1704:86.152.203.212
1655:
1654:
1653:
1619:
1618:
1617:
1616:
1615:
1614:
1613:
1612:
1611:
1610:
1533:
1532:
1512:
1500:
1480:
1479:
1478:
1425:
1413:
1400:
1379:
1367:
1355:
1339:
1327:
1315:
1303:
1300:
1297:
1294:Strong delete.
1291:
1278:
1262:
1246:
1219:
1206:
1205:
1191:
1190:
1163:
1111:
1091:
1090:
1089:
1088:
1059:
1045:
1037:
1024:
1018:
1017:
1011:
995:
992:
991:
990:
989:
988:
987:
986:
985:
984:
972:
971:
959:
958:
935:
934:
922:
909:
892:
891:
890:
889:
861:
860:
840:
807:
802:Virtual Cowboy
795:
778:
766:
754:
742:
730:
717:
716:
715:
714:
708:
707:
695:
679:
653:
628:
616:
599:
580:
567:
566:
565:
534:not a memorial
505:
491:
479:
464:
444:
421:
387:
364:
363:
362:
361:
341:
340:
324:
308:
296:
279:
259:
237:
236:
235:
234:
214:Which part of
208:
207:
190:Keep, or Merge
187:
171:
158:
157:
156:
155:
118:
117:
64:
59:
42:
41:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1900:
1888:
1886:
1881:
1875:
1874:
1871:
1867:
1863:
1859:
1854:
1850:
1846:
1842:
1838:
1834:
1830:
1826:
1823:
1821:
1818:
1817:
1812:
1809:
1807:
1804:
1800:
1797:
1795:
1792:
1791:Peterkingiron
1788:
1784:
1780:
1778:
1775:
1771:
1768:
1766:
1763:
1758:
1755:
1751:
1748:
1746:
1743:
1739:
1736:
1728:
1725:
1721:
1718:. So no, it
1717:
1713:
1710:
1709:
1708:
1705:
1701:
1697:
1694:
1693:
1692:
1689:
1685:
1681:
1678:
1677:
1676:
1670:
1667:
1665:
1659:
1656:
1652:
1649:
1645:
1641:
1638:
1637:
1636:
1633:
1629:
1626:
1625:
1621:
1620:
1609:
1606:
1605:293.xx.xxx.xx
1602:
1599:
1595:
1594:
1593:
1590:
1588:
1586:
1579:
1578:
1577:
1574:
1573:293.xx.xxx.xx
1570:
1566:
1565:
1564:
1561:
1559:
1557:
1550:
1546:
1541:
1537:
1536:
1535:
1534:
1531:
1528:
1524:
1520:
1516:
1513:
1511:
1508:
1504:
1501:
1499:
1496:
1493:
1490:
1484:
1481:
1477:
1474:
1471:
1469:
1464:
1462:
1457:
1455:
1449:
1446:
1445:
1444:
1441:
1437:
1433:
1429:
1428:Strong Delete
1426:
1424:
1421:
1417:
1416:Keep or Merge
1414:
1412:
1409:
1406:information.
1404:
1401:
1399:
1395:
1391:
1387:
1383:
1380:
1378:
1375:
1371:
1370:Strong Delete
1368:
1366:
1363:
1359:
1356:
1354:
1351:
1347:
1343:
1340:
1338:
1335:
1331:
1328:
1326:
1323:
1319:
1316:
1314:
1310:
1309:
1295:
1292:
1289:
1286:
1282:
1279:
1277:
1274:
1273:293.xx.xxx.xx
1270:
1266:
1263:
1261:
1258:
1254:
1250:
1247:
1245:
1241:
1240:
1235:
1234:
1229:
1228:
1223:
1220:
1218:
1215:
1211:
1208:
1207:
1204:
1201:
1197:
1193:
1192:
1189:
1186:
1184:
1182:
1176:
1172:
1167:
1164:
1162:
1159:
1155:
1151:
1147:
1143:
1139:
1137:
1133:
1129:
1123:
1119:
1115:
1112:
1110:
1107:
1104:
1100:
1096:
1093:
1092:
1087:
1084:
1080:
1076:
1072:
1068:
1064:
1061:I would vote
1060:
1056:
1051:
1046:
1042:
1038:
1034:
1029:
1026:The stuff in
1025:
1022:
1021:
1020:
1019:
1015:
1012:
1010:
1006:
1005:Phoeba Wright
1001:
998:
997:
993:
983:
980:
976:
975:
974:
973:
970:
967:
963:
962:
961:
960:
957:
954:
953:
946:
942:
939:
938:
937:
936:
933:
930:
926:
923:
921:
918:
913:
910:
908:
905:
903:
897:
894:
893:
888:
885:
881:
880:
879:
876:
871:
867:
863:
862:
859:
856:
852:
848:
844:
841:
839:
836:
833:
831:
826:
824:
819:
817:
811:
808:
806:
803:
799:
796:
794:
790:
786:
782:
779:
777:
774:
770:
767:
765:
762:
758:
755:
753:
750:
746:
745:Strong Delete
743:
741:
738:
734:
731:
729:
726:
722:
719:
718:
712:
711:
710:
709:
706:
703:
699:
696:
694:
691:
687:
683:
680:
678:
675:
672:
671:
661:
657:
654:
652:
649:
648:
641:
640:
636:
632:
629:
627:
624:
620:
617:
615:
612:
608:
603:
600:
598:
595:
594:
588:
584:
581:
579:
576:
571:
568:
564:
561:
557:
553:
552:
547:
546:
544:
541:
537:
535:
531:
527:
523:
517:
513:
509:
506:
504:
500:
495:
492:
490:
487:
483:
480:
478:
475:
474:76.109.163.61
472:
468:
465:
463:
460:
456:
452:
448:
445:
443:
439:
433:
429:
425:
422:
419:
418:
395:
391:
388:
386:
383:
378:
373:
369:
366:
365:
360:
357:
353:
352:
350:
346:
343:
342:
339:
336:
332:
328:
325:
323:
320:
316:
312:
309:
307:
304:
300:
297:
295:
292:
288:
284:
280:
278:
275:
272:
269:
263:
260:
258:
254:
250:
246:
242:
239:
238:
233:
230:
226:
225:
224:
221:
217:
213:
210:
209:
206:
202:
195:
191:
188:
186:
183:
179:
175:
172:
170:
167:
163:
160:
159:
154:
151:
148:
145:
138:
134:
133:
132:
131:
130:
129:
126:
122:
115:
109:
105:
101:
97:
92:
88:
83:
79:
75:
71:
67:
66:
63:
60:
58:
57:
54:
53:Mailer Diablo
50:
40:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
1879:
1876:
1852:
1836:
1832:
1824:
1814:
1810:
1798:
1782:
1769:
1749:
1737:
1724:Jeff Silvers
1719:
1711:
1695:
1688:Jeff Silvers
1679:
1663:
1657:
1648:Jeff Silvers
1639:
1627:
1623:
1622:
1584:
1555:
1523:main article
1514:
1502:
1482:
1472:
1467:
1460:
1453:
1447:
1427:
1415:
1402:
1381:
1369:
1362:Witchinghour
1357:
1341:
1329:
1317:
1304:
1293:
1285:Djungelurban
1280:
1264:
1257:Jeff Silvers
1248:
1237:
1230:
1225:
1221:
1209:
1180:
1177:in 2007. ▪◦▪
1165:
1149:
1145:
1135:
1131:
1127:
1125:
1113:
1094:
1078:
1077:rather than
1074:
1062:
1049:
1032:
1013:
999:
949:
944:
940:
924:
911:
901:
895:
842:
834:
829:
822:
815:
809:
797:
780:
768:
756:
744:
732:
720:
697:
681:
664:
655:
643:
638:
630:
618:
606:
601:
590:
586:
582:
569:
549:
548:I think the
519:
507:
493:
481:
470:
466:
446:
423:
398:
393:
389:
376:
371:
367:
344:
330:
326:
310:
298:
261:
240:
211:
189:
177:
173:
161:
119:
45:
43:
31:
28:
1843:, like the
1829:WP:MEMORIAL
1801:per Yksin.
1799:Strong Keep
1770:Strong Keep
1624:Weak Delete
1540:WP:MEMORIAL
1519:WP:MEMORIAL
1454:JohnnyBGood
1318:Strong keep
1267:Merge into
1210:Strong Keep
1166:Speedy Keep
1156:applies. --
816:JohnnyBGood
800:per above.
673:•
499:Cometstyles
123:a memorial
49:o consensus
1762:Jtmichcock
1527:FreeKresge
1420:Ihitterdal
1374:Jimmi Hugh
1150:as a group
951:RGTraynor
759:per BigDT
592:RGTraynor
560:YechielMan
556:Mount Hood
291:YechielMan
1837:Memorials
1816:Trampikey
1742:Malamockq
1628:Weak Keep
1488:SmthManly
1436:WP is NOT
1386:Night Gyr
1334:Corcoranp
1214:Sherurcij
1099:WP:LENGTH
1033:en groupe
917:Jackyd101
898:per nom.
737:Acalamari
690:J0lt C0la
514:deletion
303:Shrumster
267:SmthManly
143:SmthManly
1866:contribs
1803:Bababoum
1781:Suggest
1440:Aquatics
1322:Epson291
1171:WP:POINT
941:Comment:
785:Tony Fox
725:Ckessler
438:contribs
382:Kookface
380:delete).
229:TJ Spyke
166:TJ Spyke
114:View log
1712:Comment
1696:Comment
1680:Comment
1664:ALKIVAR
1640:Comment
1585:≡ЅiREX≡
1556:≡ЅiREX≡
1507:yuckfoo
1483:Comment
1448:Comment
1432:article
1249:Delete.
1181:≡ЅiREX≡
1154:WP:NOTE
1142:WP:NOTE
1136:content
1122:WP:NOTE
1114:Comment
1106:Joneboi
1097:as per
1071:WP:SIZE
843:Comment
611:Voretus
428:Samsara
345:Comment
299:Comment
245:Krimpet
212:Comment
87:protect
82:history
1738:Delete
1632:Jmlk17
1515:Delete
1028:WP:NOT
1000:Delete
896:Delete
866:biased
789:(arf!)
660:WP:NOT
656:Delete
619:Delete
602:Delete
583:Delete
575:Edison
570:Delete
540:Dr bab
516:debate
508:Delete
459:QmunkE
447:Delete
287:WT:NOT
253:review
216:WP:BIO
182:Mjrmtg
174:Delete
162:Delete
121:WP:NOT
91:delete
1858:T-dot
1783:Merge
1750:Merge
1720:isn't
1601:memes
1598:4chan
1473:VIVA!
1222:Merge
1200:Yksin
1158:Yksin
1103:WP:SS
1083:Yksin
1079:Merge
1063:Merge
902:Moogy
835:VIVA!
798:Merge
781:Merge
733:Merge
721:Merge
702:BigDT
633:with
631:Merge
623:Tizio
605:both
482:Merge
467:Merge
424:Merge
390:Merge
331:merge
262:Merge
241:Merge
220:DXRAW
178:Merge
125:DXRAW
108:views
100:watch
96:links
16:<
1862:Talk
1853:list
1849:9-11
1847:and
1811:Keep
1658:Keep
1503:keep
1403:Keep
1390:talk
1382:Keep
1358:Keep
1342:Keep
1330:KEEP
1307:talk
1271:. --
1227:Sr13
1101:and
1095:Keep
1081:. --
1075:Keep
1014:Keep
925:Keep
912:Keep
851:this
849:and
847:this
810:Keep
757:Keep
698:Keep
646:talk
432:talk
377:real
327:Keep
249:talk
176:and
104:logs
78:talk
74:edit
51:. -
1525:.--
1146:all
1132:not
1124:, "
1044:it.
669:yan
666:Ark
639:ffm
394:not
372:NOT
349:not
329:or
285:at
194:not
112:– (
1868:)
1864:|
1494:/
1491:/
1396:)
1394:Oy
1348:.
1242:)
1050:no
545:.
528:,
524:,
469:-
457:.
453:.
440:)
426:.
273:/
270:/
255:)
149:/
146:/
106:|
102:|
98:|
94:|
89:|
85:|
80:|
76:|
1860:(
1672:☢
1669:™
1468:c
1461:t
1392:/
1388:(
1301:┘
1298:└
1290:)
1239:C
1236:|
1233:T
1231:(
830:c
823:t
644:✎
536:.
435:•
430:(
416:l
414:e
412:i
410:r
408:d
406:e
404:a
402:h
400:P
251:/
247:(
116:)
110:)
72:(
47:n
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.