575:- the presence of red-links alone leaves me satisfied that this can't readily be converted into a category for now. The addition of other information (sortable by start/end of career date? note whether played for the national team or not? position, at least for goalies?) would mean that the list would still have advantages over the category once the red links are sorted out.
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